How is that the Ultimate Love aka God doesn't give a shit when a kid is raped?

[freeman194673]

Imo you can recontextualies this however you want: rape=love, this reality is already perfect and doesn't need to be changed and whatnot.

But it doesn't change the fact that this kid suffers a lot and will probably suffer his whole life due to the trauma.

Why is the case that God doesn't give a shit?

[abrakamowse]

1 hour ago, freeman194673 said:

Why is the case that God doesn't give a shit?

He does give a shit, he is being raped at that moment. He is experiencing what is to be a kid that suffers a lot, that will have a trauma and that has been raped.

He is also the rapist... and he is living also that experience from both points of view at the same time. He is also experiencing everything, he is the only one that exists, so he is experiencing all the apparently fragmented lives.

Edited June 16, 2020 by abrakamowse

[WaveInTheOcean]

Because in truth -- from the highest perspective, Absolutely speaking -- it is not the kid that is getting raped, but God.

Only God exist. Everything else is illusion. So "<all that can ever happen> in Reality" = The Godhead doing things to itself.

Nothing is outside God.

God = The Godhead = Everything = The Entire Universe = The Fabric & Structure of Existence Itself = Reality = Nothingness = Consciousness = The Self = Love = Absolute Infinity = Pure Selflessness = Me = You

of course dont believe in anything i just said. directly experience the truth im pointing to.

Words can only point.

Edited June 16, 2020 by WaveInTheOcean

[ivankiss]

@abrakamowse Perfect ❤

[abrakamowse]

@ivankiss  Thanks!

[Space]

2 hours ago, freeman194673 said:

Imo you can recontextualies this however you want: rape=love, this reality is already perfect and doesn't need to be changed and whatnot.

But it doesn't change the fact that this kid suffers a lot and will probably suffer his whole life due to the trauma.

Why is the case that God doesn't give a shit?

Rape only seems 'bad' to you as an limited ego/self. Bad and good are purely conceptual and relative. From a higher perspective it's all Good. Try to see from outside your ego perspective.

[freeman194673]

@WaveInTheOcean and Neo ( @abrakamowse)

why would God want to be raped by himself?

this is mindfuckery.

Also doesn't calling rape as love make us sound like a cult?

[abrakamowse]

2 minutes ago, freeman194673 said:

why would God want to be raped by himself?

Who said that God wants it? God doesn't want anything because HE IS EVERYTHING that is happening right now at this very moment.

HE IS... or better said I AM. (You are too... )

[freeman194673]

5 minutes ago, Space said:

Rape only seems 'bad' to you as an limited ego/self. Bad and good are purely conceptual and relative. From a higher perspective it's all Good. Try to see from outside your ego perspective

@Space but the Kid can't see outside of this perspective.

A rape is bad,I don't know how you can recontextualise this to sound good.

Imagine a slave that has to work 13 hours per day everyday,and then comes God and say to him "that's love actually".

 

 

[abrakamowse]

5 minutes ago, freeman194673 said:

A rape is bad,I don't know how you can recontextualise this to sound good.

When did I say it was "good"? Rape is the result of ignorance. Of not knowing who you are.

If he wasn't ignorant of his true nature, he wouldn't be raping the kid, because he would know it is also him. He would love the kid as himself, but he doesn't know that. He is ignorant.

"Love your neighbor as yourself"

Edited June 16, 2020 by abrakamowse

[JayG84]

16 minutes ago, freeman194673 said:

Imagine a slave that has to work 13 hours per day everyday,and then comes God and say to him "that's love actually".

What if God said, "Don't worry, your suffering will help the world realize one day that we should Love and respect all races as our own, all these lines that divide us are imaginary, and you're suffering will be used as an example to shine a light to the path to enlightenment for the rest of eternity"

Would that be an act of Love?

Would the slave accept himself as a teacher if he could see the whole perspective?

Edited June 16, 2020 by JayG84

[astrokeen]

This in Philosophy is known as the problem of evil. It goes like this:

If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect.

If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil.

If God is omniscient, then God knows when evil exists.

If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil.

Evil exists.

If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn’t have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn’t know when evil exists, or doesn’t have the desire to eliminate all evil.

Therefore, does this mean that God doesn’t exist or that God is not who we think she is?

Read more here: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evil/

 

Edited June 16, 2020 by astrokeen

[Carl-Richard]

"Care" is attachment-based thinking. God isn't reducible to that.

[JayG84]

8 minutes ago, astrokeen said:

God is not who we think she is?

Do you think you're God?

If not, than God isn't who you think it is. ?

[astrokeen]

None of what anyone is saying is responding to the basic question - How can God allow such injustice and pain to exist?

It is pain and injustice in the eyes, feelings and nerves of the person in pain, who lives and functions in the 3D world - which is of God's creation.

[Moon]

7 minutes ago, astrokeen said:

This in Philosophy is known as the problem of evil. It goes like this:

If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect.

If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil.

If God is omniscient, then God knows when evil exists.

If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil.

Evil exists.

If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn’t have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn’t know when evil exists, or doesn’t have the desire to eliminate all evil.

Therefore, does this mean that God doesn’t exist or that God is not who we think she is?

Read more here: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evil/

 

Yess

I remember it as omnibenevolent instead of morally perfect 

ofc we're not talking about the Judeo-Christian God, but is this idea of love seen as "morally perfect" then?

or is God neither omnipotent, omniscient and morally perfect? and just "Love"

[JayG84]

1 minute ago, astrokeen said:

How can God allow such injustice and pain to exist?

It is pain and injustice in the eyes, feelings and nerves of the person in pain, who lives and functions in the 3D world - which is of God's creation.

Pain and Injustice, feelings and nerves, lives and functions, are all relative. God is Absolute.

1 minute ago, Moon said:

or is God neither omnipotent, omniscient and morally perfect? and just "Love"

Yes. Absolute Love.

[allislove]

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How is that the Ultimate Love aka God doesn't give a shit when a kid is raped?

Criminal = God
Kid = God
You = God
Every thing = every one = God
God = Love

How can you judge yourself for anything?
You can't judge yourself.
It doesn't make sense at all if you understand that it was done due to ignorance, due to believing in:

"I AM REAL"              "I WILL DIE"              "I NEED ..."          "I AM BODY"


It's all good now  
 

 

 

Edited June 16, 2020 by dimitri

[abrakamowse]

God is ONE... and that ONE thing is the truth.

How does God creates "others"? With a lie, with a false thing.

That falsehood is what allows the world as we know to exist, because it is not true. If it was true it would be GOD the ONE and it won't be seen. Because any concept, idea, any object of the world is false. The false is needed to create the idea of a world, where bad things happen but there's also good things happening.

Everything has to happen... and is happening at this very moment.

[Javfly33]

Yeah yeah a lot of coherent explanations let's see if all it's still hunky dory if one day your kid gets raped.