thibault

The Sexual Implications of Ultimate Love

10 posts in this topic

In Leo's recent video The Ultimate Structure Of Reality Explained at 52:03 he says in order to experience infinite love you would have to give up your selective sexual cravings and not have preference for certain sexual partners. Does this mean that in such a state you would have equal sexual infatuation with your normal waking consciousness "crush" as with your sister ? Your brother ? Your mother ? Your grandmother ? A five-year old child ? A mouse ?

I have great difficulty making sense of this. I have definitely experienced an opening of my sexuality during my highest consciousness states but I have to say I am afraid of the implications it could have if taken to the absolute level.

Edited by thibault

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There is difference between love and sexual attraction. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, traveler said:

There is difference between love and sexual attraction. 

Sure but isn't sexuality an expression of love ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
47 minutes ago, thibault said:

 I am afraid of the implications it could have if taken to the absolute level.

There's no sex in the absolute. Sex is the merging of duality, desire for sex is desire for duality to merge and the tension of duality to dissipate and resolve. The absolute is the resolution itself, there are no implications or possibilities left in absolute resolution, it's absolute.


My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here's the quote:

 

__________________________________________

Leo Gura: 

What maintains your place on that periphery is precisely your inability to handle love it's your fear of love, so this axis right here of this radial model that we're creating, the center of it is pure infinite love and the very edge of it is complete utter terror and horror and fear the stuff of nightmares and most humans are somewhere in the middle you're somewhere in the middle so right now you are not able to access the love of God because you're too afraid and you're too attached and you're too selfish and you'd have to give all that up you'd have to surrender your games your lies your manipulation your cheating your stealing your sexual cravings you're selectively sexual cravings for various partners you would literally have to become so conscious that you cease seeing distinctions between people who you could have sex with you see because to understand God's love you'd have to be completely indiscriminate in your love that means you couldn't look at this woman over here and say oh well she's beautiful and this person with all she's ugly and old you couldn't do that you see if you want to maintain that kind of judgment and that kind of discrimination that is precisely what keeps you somewhere here on the periphery so you see God is caught in a catch-22 because as the singularity is the Godhead God's only desire is to share its love with all of its beings in fact the reason that there are these fragmented parts of consciousness around the singularity 

______________________________________________________________________

let me translate as I understand what he's saying :

 

_________________________________________________ 

What maintains my place on this periphery is precisely my inability to handle love it's my fear of love, so this axis right here of this radial model that I'm creating, the center of it is pure infinite love and the very edge of it is complete utter terror and horror and fear the stuff of nightmares and most humans are somewhere in the middle. I'm somewhere in the middle so right now I am not able to access the love of God because I'm too afraid and I'm  too attached and  too selfish and I'd have to give all that up. I'd have to surrender all my games and lies, my manipulation and cheating,  my sexual cravings. I would have to become so conscious that I would cease seeing distinctions between people. So you see I'm caught in a catch-22 because as I am trying to realize God and God's only desire is to share its love with all of its beings but there are these fragmented parts of my consciousness it's so hard to do that. 
________________________________________________________

^^ This is what I think he's trying to say. 

He's afraid of being loved and loving people directly, it's overwhelming so he's trying to not have to deal with it and make love this super pure thing that has to be total selfless.  So since it is so hard to do right and you would have to give up all attachments then it's better just to say home and talk about love to a video camera. I can understand this I'm going nuts too cooped up in my house under quarantine. This situation is conducive to being hermit-like and becoming further removed from social interaction.    
I'm not saying doing videos is bad, we appreciate these things but they are limited. 
We can get caught up in strange ideas about not being selective with sexual partners and discuss that intellectually but that is not the point.   Monks and many gurus give up sex altogether and the rest of the cravings (to the best of their ability, the have few slips sometimes) .  But sexual cravings and other attachments are a separate issue.  The default of doing that is peace of mind not love.Love is something you have to go out and do.    You don't need to give up everything to experience love and we don't need to come up with this special exclusive form of love "infinite love" completely selfless and pure to make it impossible to achieve.
That just becomes an excuse to stay reclusive. Just love, leave the house and start doing it.  Help and be nice to your fellow person.
That is the highest form of love. Don't worry about higher and lower forms of love. You start out small and it grows. That is the only way.  You go out and make some person to person human contact and just do whatever form of love you have at the moment.  You have to start with direct human to human contact, every day  to build your love.    
Sometimes if you been depriving yourself and someone out of the blue comes and loves you it can come as a shock, almost frightening.  It melts you and your right there in front of the person breaking down.  I could be talking to myself as well here.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sexuality becomes an expression of this love & happiness, instead of a search for it. 
 

you no longer use to fill a hole, but to express yourself. 
 

Whether you have sex or not depends on each unique being, for some it means celibacy for others it can mean a flowering of their sexuality, Ruperts video sums it up well.
 

 


'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 

'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira 

“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The "sex" is metaphysical so to speak.

It comes from dissolving boundaries between things like you, your grandmother, and a mouse.

When you realize those boundaries were always imaginary, they start to melt into one another, and you realize that as true Love.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Nahm said:

Like the Big Bang. Oh the irony. 

xDxDxD


My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think it's worth mentioning that there no implications for anyone until 'they get there' themselves. Don't fool yourself into doing stupid things now?


Can you bite your own teeth?  --  “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now