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My aim here is not to prove or disprove theories, but I just wish to understand Mahasamadhi and the truth behind his claims. I really loved Sadhguru and his videos very much, but when I saw this interview, doubts start arising in my mind to how much extent I should believe in his words. He sounds legit in his words, but I also notice him struggle a tiny bit which I had never noticed him do. What do you guys think? Further questions arise in my mind like :

To how much extent should we believe in such popular gurus ? ( Including Leo ??)

Is learning and experiencing directly the only way to know the truth? What about things we can never experience until, maybe, after we die? 

Are enlightened gurus 'successful' because they know the truth and at the same time they know deception techniques for marketing as well? 

 

 

 

 

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Sadhguru’s wife  Vijji and their child

 

Swami Rama wrote in his book “Living with the Himalayan masters” about four kinds of attaining mahasamadhi:

1. Self-burning within a fraction of a second, by meditating on the solar plexus
2. Opening the top of the skull in the “perfect position”
3. Stopping one’s breath in the deep waters of the Himalayas
4. Freezing in the state of Samadhi

 

Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev’s wife Vijaykumari also known as Vijji .  She was not was not an advanced meditator according to her husband but had intensified her practice in the tme leading up to her death. She died on January 23, 1997 at age 33 leaving behind this child, who was almost 7 years old at the time. 
She was said to have willed her own death by meditative state "Mahasamadi"  if not perhaps she poisoned herself or was poisoned by some  this is not known.   Typically people who are said to have died this way are gurus or advanced meditators  are usually older and in some cases sick. 
Had she poisoned herself Sadhguru may not have wanted to know. She was cremated immediately and Sadhguru didn't wait for his father in law to reach there in spite of the requests. The request made by Viji’s own father to wait was ignored. 
His father in law made a police complaint later that he was suspicious about Viji’s death and that Viji might have been murdered. Police dismissed the case due to  lack of evidence.

 

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The Dhyanalinga (composed of the terms dhyāna and linga) is a consecrated sculptural stone structure standing 4.3 metres (13 feet 9 inches) tall. Its creation and consecration, according to Vasudev, was his life's mission entrusted to him by his guru, Palani Swami. In 1998, the structure of the Dhyanalinga was ordered and arrived at the ashram, where the Dhyanalinga Yogic Temple was being built to hold it. After three years of work, the temple was completed on 23 June 1999 and opened to the public on 23 November. As a meditative space the Dhyanalinga Yogic Temple

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Sadhguru: In the month of July in 1996, we were consecrating the Dhyanalinga. Vijji had decided that once the linga was complete, she would leave her body. She announced that she would leave on a particular full moon day, and she started working towards that. I tried to talk to her, “It’s not necessary now, wait for some time.” But she said, “Right now, my life is perfect, inside of me and outside of me. This is the time for me. I don’t know if another time like this will come for me.”

For some reason we could not complete the consecration at that time. So on that full moon day, she sat with a group of people, meditating. Eight minutes later, she left, without any effort and with a big smile on her face. She was at the peak of her health, just thirty-three years of age. It is not easy to leave like this without causing any damage to the body. Just walking out of your body like you drop your clothes and go is not an ordinary thing. When a person has reached that point in his life when he feels everything that he needs is fulfilled, and there is nothing more to see in his life, he drops his body, willfully. If there is any struggle or injury, it means suicide. When there is no struggle, when somebody just walks out like he walks out of a room, that’s Mahasamadhi.

Once a person leaves like this, that person is no more. When somebody dies, you say they are no more, but that’s not true. They are “no more” the way you know them, that’s all. But once a person leaves in full awareness, shedding the body without causing any injury or damage to the body, that person is truly no more. That person doesn’t exist as a being anymore. They have just melted away, the game is up, completely.

“When I say Vijji, I am not referring to her as my wife or as a woman…”
Below is Sadhguru’s talk, on Vijji’s Mahasamadhi, spoken two days after the event on Thaipusam, 1997.

Sadhguru: It has always been hard for me to explain to people what Vijji is. When I say Vijji, I am not referring to her as my wife or as a woman. Even as a being, she has always been truly wonderful in my experience. But as many of you know, she was a person of very intense emotions. In her childlikeness, whatever emotions were within her always found expression, irrespective of the situation. Now she attained Mahasamadhi – the ultimate aim of all spiritual seekers – with such effortlessness, and has proved her worth.

This is not child’s play. Even accomplished yogis who spent their lives in spiritual sadhana struggle to attain this. To throw one’s life out of the body without injuring the body takes something else. One has to generate tremendous amount of energy, which requires intense sadhana. She knew the methods to achieve this and she was working towards this. But at this stage, we never imagined that without my assistance, she would be able to generate the necessary energy. Anyway she would have trodden this path, but the swiftness with which she achieved this is too much. She just made this possible with her love, probably the only thing she knew.

When I look at the whole series of events, it is very clear that there is a direct intervention of the Divine. It seems like Shambho that her heart was crying for, has taken her by the hand. Out of sheer love, she made it possible. 

To a few people who were close to her, she had spoken about this many times. She had been expressing her intense desire to leave her body in full awareness, without any sense of attachment. “I want to leave” – this had been her constant mantra with me also. 

 

 

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