He who does not understand history is bound to repeat it.

[ivankiss]

Contemplate this. Really let it sink in.

 

[ivankiss]

I understand there is no past...

Oh, but there is 

[DrewNows]

who's story? 

[ivankiss]

@DrewNows Hisstory 

[Nak Khid]

 Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

The commonly used expression, "Those who ignore history are bound (or doomed) to repeat it" is actually a mis-quotation of the original text written by George Santayana (1863-1952), who,
in his Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1, wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana's quotation, in turn, was a slight modification of an Edmund Burke (1729-1797) statement,
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." 

quotes from
A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful (1757)
by Edmund Burke 

A definition may be very exact, and yet go but a very little way towards informing us of the nature of the thing defined.

The first and the simplest emotion which we discover in the human mind is Curiosity.

The person who grieves, suffers his passion to grow upon him; he indulges it, he loves it; but this never happens in the case of actual pain, which no man ever willingly endured for any considerable time.

I am convinced that we have a degree of delight, and that no small one, in the real misfortunes and pains of others.

Compare: Francis, Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Reflections, xv: "In the adversity of our best friends we always find something which is not wholly displeasing to us"

No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear.

A great profusion of things, which are splendid or valuable in themselves, is magnificent. The starry heaven, though it occurs so very frequently to our view, never fails to excite an idea of grandeur. This cannot be owing to the stars themselves, separately considered. The number is certainly the cause. The apparent disorder augments the grandeur, for the appearance of care is highly contrary to our idea of magnificence. Besides, the stars lie in such apparent confusion, as makes it impossible on ordinary occasions to reckon them. This gives them the advantage of a sort of infinity.

Custom reconciles us to every thing.

Quote

Disputed quote 

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

This is probably the most quoted statement attributed to Burke, and an extraordinary number of variants of it exist, but all without any definite original source. They closely resemble remarks known to have been made by the Utilitarian philosopher John Stuart Mill, in an address at the University of St. Andrew (1 February 1867) : Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. The very extensively used remarks attributed to Burke might be based on a paraphrase of some of his ideas, but he is not known to have ever declared them in so succinct a manner in any of his writings. It has been suggested that they may have been adapted from these lines of Burke's in his Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents (1770): "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." (see above)

This purported quote bears a resemblance to the narrated theme of Sergei Bondarchuk's Soviet film adaptation of Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace, produced in 1966. In it the narrator declares "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing", although since the original is in Russian various translations to English are possible. This purported quote also bears resemblance to a quote widely attributed to Plato, that said "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." It also bears resemblance to what Albert Einstein wrote as part of his tribute to Pablo Casals: "The world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it."

More research done on this matter is available at these two links: Burkequote & Burkequote2 — as the information at these links indicate, there are many variants of this statement, probably because there is no known original by Burke. In addition, an exhaustive examination of this quote has been done at the following link: QuoteInvestigator

[ivankiss]

@Nak Khid Thanks. Anything else you might want to add...? 

[Chokurei]

I would translate that quote like:

If you know something doesn´t work, just don´t do it again.

[ivankiss]

24 minutes ago, Chokurei said:

If you know something doesn´t work, just don´t do it again.

Does "just don't do it again" really work tho? 

Have you ever done the exact and precise thing you said yourself you would never do "again"?  

[Nahm]

@ivankiss ?

[ivankiss]

@Nahm

 

[Nak Khid]

3 hours ago, ivankiss said:

@Nak Khid Thanks. Anything else you might want to add...? 

I'm not sure if you brought up that saying about society or you mean it on a personal level. 
"learn from your mistakes"  it seems is the message in either case.
The hard part about it can be "old habits die hard" and fear of change 

[ivankiss]

6 hours ago, Nak Khid said:

"learn from your mistakes"  it seems is the message in either case.
The hard part about it can be "old habits die hard" and fear of change 

True, but that is very surface level.

It goes much, much deeper.

[Someone here]

11 hours ago, ivankiss said:

 

Have you ever done the exact and precise thing you said yourself you would never do "again"?  

You know what I'm talking about 

[Member]

You can change the history because you are the future. So history becomes your story.

Walk backward, think forward, unlearn everything you have been told... return to innocence.

[Nak Khid]

9 hours ago, ivankiss said:

True, but that is very surface level.

It goes much, much deeper.

please explain 

" It goes much, much deeper" , that's Leo's saying 
"down the rabbit hole"  etc 

[ivankiss]

@Member Not bad. But...deeper. 

@Nak Khid Deeper - meaning there is something much more profound to be "discovered". Something "purer". Truth has a lot of facets to it. An infinite amount, to be precise. There is always deeper, for those who are yearning to explore.

Here's another famous quote to emphasize what I'm not telling you directly. Why? Because there's nothing to be told. Thought ends here.

 

The "You" here⬆️...is a thought.

Edited June 11, 2020 by ivankiss

[An young being]

History is nothing but the memories of our action and surroundings. Evolution has given us memory to learn from the past and to improvise. There is no use in repeating what we have already clearly experienced and understood and waste our time. That will slow down the purpose of life. Clearly nature ( or God or I , whatever beliefs we consider) has some unknown goal which it is achieving through time. But spiritually speaking, getting held to thoughts about past memories or the future seems to prevent us from getting a glimpse of our true self. 

[ivankiss]

2 minutes ago, An young being said:

...to improvise. 

YES! What is...improvisation?

[Member]

10 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

YES! What is...improvisation?

All the choices that you have made have not been yours. To break free from the Matrix you need to rewire this giant brain that we call "reality". So walking backwards to the root cause implies to get rid of the all the programs that built the false 'you'... then you can become the starchild (see 2001: A Space Odyssey for reference).

Edited June 10, 2020 by Member

[An young being]

Not repeating the mistakes done earlier and trying out different solutions ( like Leo using psychedelics to improve the experience of meditation ). Identifying whether the mistake is really a mistake is the key.