It's all a cycle

[NorthNow]

You wake up, you play, you cry, you go to sleep. 

You will forget every time, you will eventually remember and you will accept that it's going to continue and will always do so. 

Childhood is the reason. Sweet innocence and experiencing that absolute fucking bliss. 

 

[freeman194673]

It's not a cycle.

Nothing repeats in this life.

Everytime there is a different cry, a different laught, a different sleep, a different day.

And there's the duality : being awake/sleeping because we need sleep in order to function properly.

see this man with fatal insomnia for example: 

 

 

And if you're talking about reincarnation,I'm not sure about that.

As Leo said,you could stay in the Godhead realm aka Heaven forever.

7 minutes ago, NorthNow said:

Childhood is the reason.

the reason for what?Our reincarnations? Why?

 

8 minutes ago, NorthNow said:

Sweet innocence

You can be innocent at 50 years old too.

 

8 minutes ago, NorthNow said:

that absolute fucking bliss.

You can have that bliss at 50 years old too.

Some people didn't have it in childhood.

Some people won't ever have it.

[NorthNow]

@freeman194673

Our reincarnations? Reincarnation isn't real. Nothing is being RE-incarnated. 

The absolute essence of reality is the entirety of reality. Infinity in and of itself is a motion. There is only and can only ever be infinity. You cannot escape this. Not with silly concepts, not with pretending it's not there. It is the only thing you will and can know. That is why we call the ego an illusion. Concepts are illusions, I can think of a square-circle but it will never be a representation of reality. 

 

 

[zeroISinfinity]

Life happens within a circle which is real you. 

[Nahm]

@NorthNow

Even motion is illusory. 

[Javfly33]

28 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@NorthNow

Even motion is illusory. 

What do you mean?

Edited June 8, 2020 by Javfly33

[James123]

it is all you.

[Nahm]

@Javfly33

All that changes, comes & goes, is an appearance of what does not change, and never comes, and never goes. You might say, the true beauty of a budding flower, is that it truly is not. Truth is breath taking, as that is an appearance as well. 

[Javfly33]

@James123 That would mean that you are me.Cant be...I think you are other than me

@Nahm Any advice to avoid self-deception? The old classic of "choose the thoughts that feel Good"? But what about when all thoughts seem alright ? And none of them quite right at the same time. 

[James123]

9 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

 That would mean that you are me.Cant be...I think you are other than me

I am you  

[Javfly33]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

I am you  

How so? You are @James123 and I'm @Javfly33

Where are you, exactly, right now?

[James123]

@Javfly33 first question should be what am i? Or where are you in the body? You think you are human, because you learned (existing, reality, being alive or death). How do you know even learning is possible? If i am not aware, you can be never exist for me, if you are not aware, i can never be existed for you. Therefore, whatever you are aware of in the moment is you. Close your eyes, you will be nowhere. Its all you  

[Nahm]

3 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

 

 Any advice to avoid self-deception?

Avoidance is self deception. Investigate it. Watch Leo’s series on it. It’s invaluable. 

3 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

But what about when all thoughts seem alright ? And none of them quite right at the same time. 

Make a dreamboard. 

[zeroISinfinity]

18 hours ago, Nahm said:

@NorthNow

Even motion is illusory. 

Yup you never moved anywhere. Static forever. 

Also nothing ever happened. 

[zeroISinfinity]

I have suitcase with 1 milliin euros in my closet. Guess that will compensate for hell I am going through with this. 

[freeman194673]

On 6/8/2020 at 5:20 PM, NorthNow said:

Concepts are illusions,

>It's all a cycle

 

choose one

[NorthNow]

@freeman194673

No. You misunderstand. 

All knowing, at least from our human perspectives, is illusory because it can't fully encompass the true nature of reality. We deal with concepts, incomplete ideas and constructions of an entirety.

There is such thing as a tree, but trees are an illusion. Language is an incredibly incomplete, primitive and insufficient tool for communicating reality. Anyone who has some sort of level of understanding to the nature of reality however will understand the distinction and nuance to this. 

[freeman194673]

@NorthNow I don't understand.What is an illiusion?

The trees exist.

The word "threes" exists too in our minds,not in the pyisical reality,but still exists,we have direct experience of it.

But it's there,and these of us who speak english are able to grasp it and understand it and see the imagine of a physical three in their minds.

6 hours ago, NorthNow said:

anguage is an incredibly incomplete, primitive and insufficient tool for communicating reality

yeah but do you have something better?

We can't use telepathy can't we?

6 hours ago, NorthNow said:

is illusory because it can't fully encompass

what do you mean by fully encompass?

Of course that it cannot,the reality is infinite.

We try to dig but we can dig infinitely into the nature of reality.

But still we have build a lot of cool things like skyscrapers and cars and PCs with the language.

So we dug quite far,we made some progress..from caves to this.

6 hours ago, NorthNow said:

. Anyone who has some sort of level of understanding to the nature of reality however will understand the distinction and nuance to this. 

I do have but I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Why are concepts illusions?

Where is the trickiness?

 

[NorthNow]

@freeman194673 A tree is not a tree, you only think it's a tree. If you don't understand that statement I don't know how else to explain it I'm not particularly gifted in communicating these ideas

And yes, we do not have any good alternatives to language. We are very limited biological creatures. 

[freeman194673]

On 6/11/2020 at 11:42 PM, NorthNow said:

A tree is not a tree, you only think it's a tree.

no?

there is a convention that says a tree is a tree.

it's called language,and according to it,a tree is a tree,not a car.

this is how language works dude,it's a convention between people.

There is no illusion in it.

If you don't know how to explain your point is means that you need to understand it better.

On 6/11/2020 at 11:42 PM, NorthNow said:

A tree is not a tree, you only think it's a tree. If you don't understand that statement

I do understand it.

A tree is a tree.

That's what language says.

 

Why do you prentend that it's not true?