On transcending needs, what it takes, how difficult it can be?

[Amit]

5 hours ago, Nahm said:

Sounds a bit like a materialist separatist mindset of believing in states and individuals. 

I'm gradually becoming more conscious of being a consciousness prior to anything else, and seems like I'm getting out of materialistic paradigm finally. 

Thanks for giving your 1000$ comment for free?

@DreamScape thanks bro

 

Edited June 13, 2020 by Amit
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[Nahm]

On 6/7/2020 at 5:24 PM, Amit said:

There are two different paradigms to understand how desires manifest for a being.

A third way would be to ask a lamp. 

[Amit]

8 minutes ago, Nahm said:

A third way would be to ask a lamp. 

I love you absolutely

[Nahm]

6 minutes ago, Amit said:

I love you absolutely

How’s that separate from desire?

[Amit]

@Nahm it's not, I am not trying to deny desires to myself and it's only better if desire shifts my perception to higher consciousness.

Also I said absolutely as love is, so it was to sprinkle it with humour. 

[Nahm]

@Amit 

I think the insights you might be looking for (op) are in noticing the usage of single & plural with the different facets you’re contemplating. That and you can’t have perception. 

[Amit]

Thanks, it seems to be more clear now.. I was watching the latest video of Joseph maynor, and he pointed out a subtle difference between nonduality and spinocha. I think the human levels are based on the plurality of consciousness, while I was looking at from a single viewpoint. 

And yeah I can cease to have a perspective and can switch modes if I don't desire it, very true.