Reality is beautiful

[LastThursday]

When I browse the different threads here, it kind of makes me sad how there's such an underappreciation for how astounding and beautiful people are. The skills that people show and the beauty they create in the world often blow my mind.

I'm a visual and auditory kind of guy. When I listen to great music or look at stunning art or craft, I feel a certain kind of excited love and gratitude (for being alive), which I wish I could feel more often and share with other people.

Anyway, enough gushing. Here are two tokens of what I'm talking about.

The sheer atistry, patience, tradition and dedication astounds me:

The sweet tones of a human song bird, and history of two other geniuses woven together (Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder):

 

[Oliver Saavedra]

Beautiful (:

I agree this forum is kinda cold, I find it pretty masculine, its more about mutual support through telling eachother what to do, which is nice and helpful but a bit cold. 

Art and appreciation would be nice, but there's not much of it in the self-help field, and this is a self-help forum. 

Here's something I find very beautiful

 

[AtheisticNonduality]

2 minutes ago, Oliver Saavedra said:

Beautiful (:

I agree this forum is kinda cold, I find it pretty masculine, its more about mutual support through telling eachother what to do, which is nice and helpful but a bit cold. 

Art and appreciation would be nice, but there's not much of it in the self-help field, and this is a self-help forum. 

Here's something I find very beautiful

 

It's masculine because Leo is masculine.  Also, people may have Freudian reasons to not act feminine around Leo.

[Jacobsrw]

Agree with your idea here, in needing to appreciate these elements of life.

Just as a pointer, there are two threads on the forum: one called ‘Art Never Ceases to Amaze Me’ and ‘Show Us Your Art’. A lot  of people discussing the beauty of life and human eccentricity. It’s here you just have look for it. Also there are many various threads stipulating these kinds of topics.

Just as a side note, consider the art and beauty in what is maybe assumed cold. There’s an indiscriminate profundity in the darkness we shun.

[Gili Trawangan]

Two things. First, agreed about the beauty all around the world, anywhere you look. Breathtaking beauty everywhere!

But, second, why do you need it to be discussed on this forum? Just enjoy it! Share with friends or something  art is not what Leo is interested in, so naturally it doesn't fit his forum. Not because it's masculine, come on.

[LastThursday]

I appreciate your all comments.

It's not so much the artistic products I was interested in, as you say there are other threads for that.

It's tricky for me to articulate what I was trying to say.

There's a lot of judgement and criticism on the forum and a lot of "trying to fix" other people by providing opinions. I wanted to point out that there is a way to counterbalance the negativity when interacting with people. This also applies to people in everyday life.

I was using beauty as an example of an experience that viscerally connects oneself to the world - a transcendant experience. Some of my personal preferences I posted above. I think we often lead our lives in a way that is emotionally disconected from reality - and this comes off in the way we deal with people. One way to re-connect is through beauty (it's not the only way though).

When someone produces a thing of beauty such as a song or a kimono - our immediate response is one of love.  We love the beautiful art, but by extension we also love the person or people that created it. By love I mean admiration or appreciation or respect or such like. But I also mean a visceral emotional reaction that connects you with the art and the person. It's hard to hate a person who produces beautiful things.

But should we love a person before they've created a work of art? Yes most definitely. Because every person has the potential to produce beauty in the world. Every person has the potential to induce in us a transcendant experience and reconnect us to the world and each other. It's hard to hate that potential.

It also helps us recognise that we too have that same potential and we should love ourselves for that - no matter how "broken" we feel we are.

[Jacobsrw]

3 hours ago, LastThursday said:

I appreciate your all comments.

It's not so much the artistic products I was interested in, as you say there are other threads for that.

It's tricky for me to articulate what I was trying to say.

There's a lot of judgement and criticism on the forum and a lot of "trying to fix" other people by providing opinions. I wanted to point out that there is a way to counterbalance the negativity when interacting with people. This also applies to people in everyday life.

I was using beauty as an example of an experience that viscerally connects oneself to the world - a transcendant experience. Some of my personal preferences I posted above. I think we often lead our lives in a way that is emotionally disconected from reality - and this comes off in the way we deal with people. One way to re-connect is through beauty (it's not the only way though).

When someone produces a thing of beauty such as a song or a kimono - our immediate response is one of love.  We love the beautiful art, but by extension we also love the person or people that created it. By love I mean admiration or appreciation or respect or such like. But I also mean a visceral emotional reaction that connects you with the art and the person. It's hard to hate a person who produces beautiful things.

But should we love a person before they've created a work of art? Yes most definitely. Because every person has the potential to produce beauty in the world. Every person has the potential to induce in us a transcendant experience and reconnect us to the world and each other. It's hard to hate that potential.

It also helps us recognise that we too have that same potential and we should love ourselves for that - no matter how "broken" we feel we are.

This is indeed true. Art should be loved for the artistry it exemplifies. The artist loved equally for who they are regardless of what they have created. The problem in our world is that it is built off competition rather than collaboration. Hence why, authentic appreciation is hard to come by. One who loves something for what it is unconditionally, is one who is operating beyond what they can get out of it. This is the real beauty of art.

As an artist myself, this is my deepest wish.

 

Edited June 7, 2020 by Jacobsrw

[universe]

16 hours ago, LastThursday said:

I'm a visual and auditory kind of guy. When I listen to great music or look at stunning art or craft, I feel a certain kind of excited love and gratitude (for being alive), which I wish I could feel more often and share with other people.

Im the same. You can feel it without the art being present. Just make room for it and be mindful of the will to share it with others. You will do it, Im sure! And its beautiful 

[Forestluv]

The movie Samsara has some amazing beauty. It’s all visual and auditory. No words. 

[Oliver Saavedra]

Love you all, thanks for your beautiful words ❤️ 

So good to be in a forum of people that get it :') 

[Jacobsrw]

4 hours ago, Oliver Saavedra said:

Love you all, thanks for your beautiful words ❤️ 

So good to be in a forum of people that get it :') 

Right back at you 

[Consept]

Reality is beautiful, thanks for sharing

[remember]

@LastThursday what if you produce beauty, are used to create beauty but get overpowered by the creation of ugliness - what is beauty? you would ask, and how is beauty maintained? beauty is in an absurd conflict with ugliness all the time, beauty is not just existing it is also created as a refinement of your ability to discern.

Edited June 8, 2020 by remember

[Leo Gura]

Beauty is the only reason for this work.

Beauty comes in infinite forms. Don't confuse it for a feminine quality.

[Ar_Senses]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Beauty comes in infinite forms. Don't confuse it for a feminine quality.

I have a lot of girl-friends to whom I recommended 24 character survey and most of them are having “appreciation of beauty and excellence” as one of the top-5.

Why?

P.s. most of them green

Edited June 8, 2020 by Ar_Senses

[LastThursday]

23 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

The movie Samsara has some amazing beauty. It’s all visual and auditory. No words. 

I will definitely check that out. Thanks!

7 hours ago, remember said:

beauty is in an absurd conflict with ugliness all the time

I was using beauty as just one example of a transcedent experience - so more of a proxy than focussing on beauty itself. Beauty is relative to the observer of course.

Some other types of transcedent experience might be:

• Awe - experience the magnitude of the Grand Canyon.
• Sex - intense emotional arousal with a new partner
• Fear - the thrill of a bungee jump
• Gratitude - a person risks their own life for you
• Meditation - sitting by a river and experiencing oneness with nature
• Knowledge/Novelty - being shown a new way to do something

So you can see that all these transcedent experiences have one thread linking them all: love.  They induce love and a stronger connection (to God?).

But I was also going one step further and saying that people can also induce those experiences in you. It may be sponteneous or on purpose or it may not have even happened yet.  But when it does happen you will also love the person who gives you that experience.

The conclusion is that you should love everyone, because anyone is capable of introducing you to a transcedent experience.

Coming from a position of love in all your interactions is very different from the norm (on this forum) I would say.

 

[remember]

yes, i was talking about a more general aspect of aesthetics as a field of art philosophy, in sense of beauty as a dualistic principle and the contradiction of beauty and ugliness as a subjective relativity to personal experience and context. ugly can be beautiful and beautiful can be ugly. contradiction is not always contradictory.

Edited June 8, 2020 by remember