Belief or Truth

[deso]

59 minutes ago, Dodo said:

is breathing a siddhi 

this whole existence is a miracle, but still letting an apple float just by looking at it or imagining something into existence out of thin air would by far excel everything that we believe would be possible. That would be some real siddhi

[WaveInTheOcean]

6 hours ago, deso said:

Love it

I mean it seems plausible that these things are possible, but there’s no real evidence of such miraculous happenings. Did you have direct experience with siddhis?

What we call magic is just that which we:

- don't understand

- or/and don't think is possible

To me existence itself is a miracle. Pure magic.

Also realize that if for example everyone could walk on water on turn water to wine, that then these abilities would just be absolutely 'normal'.

In other words "normal vs. magical" is just that: a relative duality which is ultimately non-dual. There will always be "some things" we consider magic; namely because there are some things we consider normal! You cant have one without the other.

To answer more directcly, I am open enough to consider that the miracles of Jesus are not just myth but true.

But that doesn't even matter. I mean the past only exist as a story inside my head/inside the collective conscious/unconscious mind

[WaveInTheOcean]

If you took a grown up man from year 1500 and showed him iphones and airplanes he would probably die out of pure shock. To him we would me magicians

[Nahm]

6 hours ago, deso said:

this whole existence is a miracle, but still letting an apple float just by looking at it or imagining something into existence out of thin air would by far excel everything that we believe would be possible. That would be some real siddhi

There’s no actuality to what we believe is possible. You ‘have’ only what you believe is possible. Some are well aware they are the formlessness (thin air) appearing as “an apple”, and are already aware they are imagining experience “into existence”. 

Scrutinize what you believe is possible, and see through your beliefs about yourself & this world. Believe, know and act 100% in accordance with what you are wanting, already being the case. To ask the first question about it, to ask someone else, is already self doubt, which is to say, doubting the formlessness (thin air) which is appearing as the apple, which is you. 

If you believe the apple is not you, is not formlessness appearing as ‘an apple’, start inspecting self & reality. 

To waffle in self judgement, is the point of “not eating from the tree of knowledge of good & bad”. Aka, not believing “your knowledge”, “what you think you know to be the truth”. It ain’t. It’s judgement. See what The Truth is. 

[Dodo]

19 hours ago, deso said:

this whole existence is a miracle, but still letting an apple float just by looking at it or imagining something into existence out of thin air would by far excel everything that we believe would be possible. That would be some real siddhi

Yeah I would say I have no evidence that kind of magic exists, as I have not experienced anything that is not "realistic" under this paradigm we live in. Everything in this reality follows some kind of logic which does not allow for crazy magic, except for tricks. 

[kireet]

@JayG84 you should not hold beliefs .....

there are two types of things : - 1)things you know

                                                         and

                                                         2)things you don't 

although sometimes you need to trust but that does  not mean you believe it ....

and things you dont know , you should try to perceive(because when you perceive , there is no question of believing because you know it). just keep trying to perceive higher conscious ideals..

 

Edited June 9, 2020 by kireet