By WaveInTheOcean
in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God,
Hello
Today, the imaginary avatar @VeganAwake initiated in the imaginary avatar @WaveInTheOcean a direct download of insight from God, i.e. from myself.
Instead of just replying to him in the thread "Is Heaven a real place aside from here and now>" I'd like to share it with ya'll here.
The initiation:
God's reply (you can substitute "VeganAwake" with "yourself"):
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Hello VeganAwake, again <3
Interesting post. I definitly gained some insight by reading this. You are, however, both right and wrong. Let's begin with what is right in your words of dualistic language:
It's true, the ego -- per default, as how it is programmed by social conditioning & genetics -- does indeed NOT want to dissolve/transcend itself. It wants to survive.
This is very, very true (relatively speaking). And exactly because of this resistance against Oneness with God, the ego indeed does say "Seek, but do not find"; In other words, the ego-mind/false-self does not want to ever truly find a definitive final answer/ending/conclusion to its "condition", which namely otherwise Truly is that it does not exist except as a thought in God's Mind = "Your Real Mind", cos God is what you actually are!!!
...! And this is now where your confusion and lack of actual deep understanding of the nature of Reality begins :-)
Are you ready? Let's get Absolute, motherfucker:
0. Oneness is the Truth. And Oneness is God.
1. There truly exist no separate selves. There truly exist no separate minds.
2. A sense "of something", i.e. "a sense of separateness/ego" can purely logically not "want" "something". C'mon bro (God I mean, i.e. myself): you can do better than this! At least try if you want to test me, i.e. yourself ;-)
3. The only "thing" in Reality that can "want something" is you, God, 'I' :-) And do you know what you want? Haha. I want EVERYTHING!
I am Infinite. You are Love.
((( The imaginary avatar, WaveInTheOcean, is sitting in front of his PC-monitor with tears on his cheeks. Love is the most beautiful thing. Love is what I am. Love is what you are ... I = You )))
4. There is no demise possible of anything, except the demise of illusion/Maya.
5. Yes, the seeking can keep you from finding yourself. Stop then. God, your fool! <3 Stop right now if you can, God. But can you? Do you even want to stop?
6. Let's for a moment get real logical, practical and relative here at this 6th blessing from me. "The ego says seek but do not find". Yes, it is relatively true (absolutely speaking, there is no ego, only me). Relatively speaking the ego per default says 'seek but don't find.' Yes. But realize also, however, that it is indeed possible for the ego to merge with me, God. It just ain't easy. It is the most difficult thing for me (i.e.: you) to do. To let go. A complete letting go is necessary. Can you, God, completely let go of your own illusion of VeganAwake? I guess you can't (cos ya don't want to). But play with the thought at least.
It is possible. Know that - at the very least. <3 And it will happen eventually, either way, so no rush, God <3
7. If you fill up the imaginary ego with enough love -- that is: Self-Love -- at some point during an eventual peak experience the bubble now filled with Love will burst, and overflood "your sense of separateness/the ego-mind" with Love and lovingly force it to merge with God.
If this ever happens to you, God, you will realize that VeganAwake did never exist, only yourself, God.
8. But as long as you lack Self-Love, you can not let go, God. Fill up your imaginary cup/ego/bubble with Love so it eventually explodes, and your seeking will stop. Even after that peak experience of Love-Explosion, the bubble/ego will afterwards in your "sober consciousness" remain punctured, if the Love-Explosion was big enough that is. Realize that some times the explosion will be so "small" that there will be no actual holes in the bubble after the peak-experience. Realize again that it is in fact possible to make a Love-Explosion so gigantic that the bubble (ego) can't patch itself completely up afterwards, and that the bubble (ego) forever from then on will remain punctured and thus through that hole (or holes, if you're really enlightened) be able to see God; I.e.: God will be able to see itself through the bubble filled with holes, i.e. through the "human-transcended-mind-body-ego-persona-imagination."
9. After all, when all is said and done, do realize that even though from a relative true standpoint 'ego' and 'god' can legitimally be viewed as complete opposites, from the Absolute Standpoint 'ego' and 'god' are one and the same ting, namely: God. Ta-daaaaaah. Non-duality 101.
Realizing/remembering that you are God matters! IT IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL EVENT POSSIBLE IN THIS DREAM! And therefore it matters! It is in fact the ONLY 'thing' that truly matters.
And yet, you are completely right too -- in a sense -- ; it doesn't matter at all if you remember it doing the dream or not. This is after all exactly that: just a dream. When the dream ends (death, an imaginary event) we will all get there. I/You/God always gets there. Always. ... Cos' we are already there, ta-daaaaah! <3
Me (God) not wanting to remember that I'm God is just me wanting to stay in maya/illusion until death comes (which is also just an imaginary event in the dream, sorry to repeat myself twice <3). I often prefer my "experiences" that way. It's like how you as a human sometimes may want your dinner: A bit spicy, am I right? It has to taste of something, the food, even though it's imaginary. When you then drink the milk (remember yourself) to remove the burning sensation in your mouth (the illusion of separateness, ego, mind) the milk tastes even better than it would have done without some spices first !! Haha <3 <3 <3 But sometimes I actually deeply want to -- inside the dream of myself -- to wake up to my own nature and just drink that sweet pure white milk of infinite looooooove (with no spice needed to spice it up, cos' infinite love contains infinite spiciness). <3 <3 <3
It has happened through the imaginary avatar of Leo Gura. It has happened through the imaginary avatar, Jesus. And it has happened through the imaginary avatar, WaveInTheOcean. It has also happened through the avatar, Alan Watts. Just to name four avatars. I wonder if it will ever happen through the VeganAwake-avatar. I suppose as long as I keep an ideology embedded into my forum-name, I probably can't fully let go in this special case. However, make no mistake, I am as God a big fan of veganism. But as God I'd like to point out that playing with ideologies only makes you spin around in circles forever. Let go, brothers and sisters. Let go.
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You see, VeganAwake, I am sorry to be so bluntly and harsh/arrogant (realize I'm doing it out of love to you though, and that you and me are one), but your post screams of dualistic misconceptions of what God/I/you actually is.
Let's now shift gears a bit and just get straight to the point and say it as simple, easy and Absolute True as it is: God = You . Look, I don't care if we use big letters or not. I could also write god = you. You are god. You are the self. The only self that exist. That is what you are. There exist no other selves than you. There exists no actual egos except God! God, God, God, God, god, god, god, you, you, you, you, you, me, me, me, I, I, I, God, god, God, god, God, YOU! How often do you want me to repeat it? Haha <3 Oh my fucking god! <3 You who are reading this right now, this consciousness reading these very letters, this consciousness IS = Consciousness = God = The Self = The Structure and Fabric of Reality Itself. That's you!!! Hi God! How's Maya/life over there where you - as God - are pretending not to be God but to be mr. wise-guy, aka VeganAwake? Haha <3 <3 <3 I love you, even if you won't get it nor understand this imaginary stream of insight I'm channeling into myself (you).
If you don't get it, it is because I don't want to. It's okay. Everything is perfect already. I'm just playing around. (God playing around = Infinite Love) So are everyone. And everyone is me, everyone is God. <3 <3 <3
VeganAwake, God, I'm talking to you now. I'm in fact talking to myself now: You are playing a VERY funny game here. You are namely playing the game of playing by your own imaginary rules. You play it by the book. And if you never stop playing it by the book, you will never find your-true-self through this imaginary avatar, VeganAwake. However, God, realize that you have already found yourself through the avatar of WaveInTheOcean, and realize, God, that I am right now as you, as God, trying to communicate -- impossible as it may seem -- actual, true wisdom/insight into this avatar of VeganAwake. The only question is: Do you/I want this wisdom or not? That's the only question.
In one way, I/You may want it, cos remembering yourself is the most beautiful tear-dropping event possible in this world I created.
In another way I/You may not want it, cus staying in illusion/maya can be hell of fun, even though the suffering can sometimes be a bit too much, just like binging bad TV-series 24/7 can sometimes be just a tiny bit too many empty calories. Haha <3 <3 <3
No, wrong, the ego cannot say anything, because the ego is imaginary. Only you/I/God can say, think, feel, perceive, do - cos' God's all there is baby.
So let's correct it:
Oneness with God
God says seek, but does not find,
until it lets go.
It needs to give itself Love,
cos' Love is letting go.
And then it will find,
it was itself it seeked.
Can you, my Love?
<3
Anyway, it does - ultimately - not matter if I/You want it or not. The only relevant question remains: Do you want that bread with butter on now? Or do you prefer the bread without butter until the very end, and only then get that sweet butter on?
When I say 'the very end' I in fact just mean the complete opposite: the new beginning. >>>>>>>
Final notes from WaveInTheOcean:
I have always said to people scared of psychedelics that you can never be stuck in a bad trip forever. It always ends when the chemicals wear off. That "forever trips" are a myth. It has now struck me that this may not be true; at least in regards to " 'Good' trips forever ". I have been "sober" in 5 days now since my last 2CB-trip (my "final" awakening). However, I can litterally trip at will anytime now. This flow of wisdom I "downloaded" (xD) from "God" (myself I mean) was pretty much identical as to the flow of wisdom coming to me in my psychedelic trips. I was writing without thinking. No actual effort, just a happening in itself. Of course the avatar of WaveInTheOcean made some spelling mistakes along the way, which I for your pleasure corrected.
With "tripping at will" I just mean that I can at will choose to see myself (God) in anything in front of me and/or inside of me. And that naturally opens this avatar up for pretty much unlimited creatitivty and insight, it feels like. Really, really amazingly beautiful it is. I feel like crying regularly every day (and I let myself do that, no resistance needed), cos I can't freaking take it. It's almost too much Goodness. Too much Love. Of course it ain't too much, I love it, make no mistake. It just is what it is. God. Me. You. Love.
I dunno if @Leo Gura feels the same way. If not, consider me "more enlightened" than him =D If yes, I guess we're at the same level ;-) =) <3
Now, Alan Watts' words,
makes perfect sense. I never have to trip on psychedlics again, cos' I'm already trippin' 24/7.
I get the message. I am God. Psychedelic drugs are to mind/consciousness/true psychology what the telescope is to astronomy. I have used the telescope to see myself. God. The analogy with the telescope is not perfect, cos' I can see myself now even without the telescope (the drug).
Now I can get to work. Woooork woork woork work. <3
Work, work, work, work, work, work
He said me haffi
Work, work, work, work, work, work
He see me do mi
Dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt
So me put in
Work, work, work, work, work, work
Na, na, na, na, na, na
When you ah gon' learn, learn, learn, learn, learn, learn?
Before the tables turn, turn, turn, turn, turn, turn
I may, maybe, decide to -- at some point -- take a psychedelic drug again; just for kicks to see what happens. I cannot actually imagine what happens. I surely understand what Leo means when he says he only needs a small dose relative to other people in order to trip his balls off. I suppose Leo is tripping 24/7 as well, lightly at least.
It's so fucking shocking man. Just a random example: I get text messages from my friends on my phone and I instantly feel and see that it is truly me messaging myself. Haha. You see guys and girls: There is only ONE SELF. One. And it is me. And me is you. Haha <3 <3 <3
Just think logically about it. If you actually believe in plural separate isolated selves, what did then create these selves? And that which created these selves, what created that? And so on. In Reality it is Self creating Self.The One Self. Nothing is outside that Self, which is me, which is you. <3
Or if there were actual plural separate selves, then what is differentiating between the 'subjective qualia-like conscious experiences' of self A and self B? Why is self A experiencing 'a' and self B experiencing 'b' ?????? The naive materialistic paradigm would say "Dohh. self A is one agent and self B is another agent. Don't you get it noob? Logic 101?" .. haha, but logic doesn't work if you want to understand actual Reality/Oneness/Truth.
Or if you could clone yourself atom-to-atom, you would then under the materialist naive paradigm say you now got two separate selves, identical, but still different in their location and future separate isolated qualia-like-subjective experiences. But this makes no sense! Only if you remove separate selves and substitute that with Oneness. The Self.
So yeah, the only solution to these imaginary "problems" is: Oneness.
Under the Oneness-paradigm there is only one Self (me, you) which naturally imagines E-V-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G. And that 'everything' is the Self, too.
God imagning God imagning God imagning God to infinity.
If you REALLY think about, Reality only makes "sense" if there is only One Self. Me. You.
Bless you all, beautiful imaginary souls. <3
Last final very random notes: Do love. For God's sake. Be loving and search for love and give it further. See, I am using the word 'love', not 'Love'. Cos yes, while every infinite happening may be out of Love (non-duality 101), if you ever want to awaken inside the dream, you have to go for just plain simple love. Be good to others. Be good to yourself. When you inside feel at peace - cos love is flowing within you - then take 2C-B or some other psychedelic drug / meditate / whatever and then transcend that ego. Merge with me. <3
It is okay if your love in the beginning is a bit selfish/egoistic/narrow/conditional. That's perfectly fine. Your ego is your inner child. It is in charge of your emotions. You can't fucking argue with emotions. So listen to your emotions and act lovingly in accordance to them. Do the right, hard thing you know you need to do, but that you don't want to do (in that way, don't always let your emotions guide you, cos in the begninning your internal programming may be fucked due to your upbrining/other traumatic life events).
Slowly as you start acting and being lovingly towards yourself and others, you will slowly - may take years, maybe only months - begin to feel more at peace inside yourself, cos your inner child (ego) is being calmed down, cos it's getting that sweet, sweet love of yours. Your inner child also wants to love others and give them love. It just doesn't know how to do that consciously, so teach it. Teach yourself. Self-development. Listen, read etc. Meditate.
Make no mistake. I sort of (but then again, not really;D) understand why Peter Ralston doesn't talk much about love. For many people love just means pure conditional love, which is not actual love (but is none-the-less a fine start!). Actual unconditional Love is FUCKING HARD in the beginning. It only becomes easy when you have merged with yourself (God).
But do the hard thing. It will pay off if you follow through.
I have a hard time believing you can transcend your ego (i.e. let go and remember that you are God) without practicing Love first. At least try.
Fall in love, literally and symbolic. Literally has its purpose too, even though it's conditional in the beginning. But you have to directly experience and learn for yourself if you ever want to become wise. Go out and make some mistakes! Don't listen to me, I'm just a fool writing long posts on a random forum. Listen to God! He/she/it is in the sky, in the bird's singing, in the blooming of the flowers, in the rays of the sun, in the rain from the clouds, in the flow of the river, in the eyes of your beloved, in the waves of the ocean, in the words of your friends and family, in the words from me here, in the trees rising from the dirt, in the healthy food that you're eating, in the stunning view of mountains and beautiful landscapes, in the sex you're having with your girlfriend/boyfriend, in the kisses, in the hugs, in the tears, in the laughter, in all smiles, in your eyes and all eyes, in your car driving to work so you can feed your family, in the stars of the night sky. Go out now and live life, please. Don't stay too long on this forum. It can hurt you, but also heal you of course. Everything in moderation, except Love/God <3