What is the relationship between love and truth?

[traveler]

14 minutes ago, The observer said:

Love is an idea.

Yes, or a pointer to what the pointer appears in.

[The observer]

Just now, traveler said:

Yes, or a pointer to what the pointer appears in.

Nothingness is not love.

[Nahm]

@The observer

Interesting the projection of shame arises. Inspect that, see through it. Inspect with the finite mind, as the finite mind (be honest / be where you are)  through the finite mind, as in, transcend the finite mind rather than settling for thoughts & idea’s. See what thought & idea is truly ‘made of’. Intellect can not go where it is presently claiming it is. The change of such a full & sincere inquiry & inspection, can not be spoken. One can only say this is the catalyst of the suffering, the ‘walls’ in ‘one’s life’. The dots can profoundly connect. Liberation. Glory, even, if you will. This, as it is, unfettered and untainted by the ‘bringing of a story’ to it. Love is bliss, appearing, allegedly. 

A wise man once said, “Infinite Love it is. Truth.”

 

[Forestluv]

@The observer You are trying to figure love out intellectually, which will limit your potential. There are heart awakenings just as important as mind awakenings. 

[The observer]

@Nahm @Serotoninluv 

Thanks. I'll try to keep an open mind ??

[Nahm]

@The observer

♥️??

[The observer]

21 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@The observer

♥️??

@Nahm

???

[Elshaddai]

20 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Really, just ask yourself that question. If you were absolutely selfless and formless, why the hell would you allow certain things and not others?

You have to realize that if you don't have a FORM, you can't fucking know what is "evil", "wrong", or "bad". This are projections of the mind for survival purposes.

So just to see if I understand, you are saying that since god is formless it doesn't care if he is causing suffering to its own creation?

19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 God cannot force you to be selfless, as that would be selfish of God.

God is not holding you back. You are standing in your own way.

8 hours ago, docs20 said:

The paradox is that God itself is me and is standing in its own way, God is also the ego that is preventing itself to be fully enlightened. So in a way God is holding us back

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, and that is precisely Love. God is not holding you back because God wants nothing from you but whatever is. God does not love you more for realizing you are God.

It's true I am very selfish and fearful, but didn't god create the selfishness and fear in me? I mean, it's not like I woke up one fine morning and said to myself "Ok, from now on I will be selfish, cruel and fearful until the day I die!"

By not forcing all living things to be selfless he is forcing them to be selfish by definition.

4 hours ago, Nahm said:

The “connection” is the veiling of truth via “what others will see”. 

So you mean to say that suffering is relative? what appears to be suffering to one person is not to another?

[Forestluv]

@The observer @Nahm @Serotoninluv

 ♥️ ? 

[Nahm]

@Serotoninluv ??

 

13 minutes ago, Elshaddai said:

So you mean to say that suffering is relative? what appears to be suffering to one person is not to another?

This veils itself with itself as thought activity of other than this, or even other, or god, or me, or even veils. 

[Elshaddai]

50 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Serotoninluv ??

 

This veils itself with itself as thought activity of other than this, or even other, or god, or me, or even veils. 

Ok now it just feels like you're answering with a koan. My brain hates those! ?

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, The observer said:

I never said that Truth excludes love.

If Truth and Love were placed on a venn diagram, it would be a perfect circle

7 hours ago, The observer said:

It's just not right here and now.

Yes it is. Love is Absolute and ever-present. Don't confuse Love with how to feel.

7 hours ago, The observer said:

It has been in the past and will likely be in the future, but it's not here at the moment.

It is the very substance of this moment and all moments.

7 hours ago, The observer said:

Love is so demanding, like a nagging wife that wants me to abandon my friends (thoughts) for her. No, thanks. Truth is much simpler.

You fundamentally misunderstand Love and Truth and you are not fully awake.

7 hours ago, The observer said:

It's infinite, so I can't be conscious of it all. There's nothing more to be conscious of. Consciousness is all there is.

Lol, there is tons you're still not conscious of.

5 hours ago, The observer said:

Love is an idea.

Love is no more an idea than Truth is.

5 hours ago, The observer said:

Nothingness is not love.

Yes it is.

[Nahm]

@Elshaddai It’s straightforward.

 

[Inliytened1]

They are completely synonymous.  But we are not talking about finite love.

[dinone]

I love apples, mmmm so tasty

I hate apples, damm that skin always gets stuck in my teeth!

Why are you hate something? Because you love something? right dualism?

F.... love is always= truth.

 

 

 

[Nahm]

 

“The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.” 

― Joe Klaas