how to disprove solipsism ?

[Nahm]

If interested....

https://www.simplypsychology.org/defense-mechanisms.html

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/defense-mechanisms

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[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Nahm said:

 have complete and total access of ‘your’ finite mind. I AM ‘your’ finite mind lol. It’s an appearance of me. 

For Christ's sake that's what I'm saying.  "you" are nothing but my finite mind. You are just an appearance in my mind my experience my whatever.. Call it whatever.. Remove the "my" if you like. But you get the idea.  If I go do something else right now.. Nahm will disappear from experience. Because what Nahm is, is the appearance of Nahm. This is NOT a belief. This is what actually happens experiential. I close my eyes.. You disappear.. I open them.. You reapear!! 

7 minutes ago, Nahm said:

This is also why you struggle to distinguish thought & feeling properly. 

There is no difference.  Let's explore this.. What is a thought and what is a feeling?  First of all you can't tell the two apart.  What the hell is a thought if it's not a feeling or some kind of experience?   And what the hell is a "feeling " as a distinct thing from thoughts if not a thought?  Is that distinction a thought or a feeling.?you can't have feeling stripped from thoughts or thoughts about nothing with no feeling substance. 

Thoughts= feelings.  We can agree to disagree but I'm not just splitting hairs with you.. That's how I see it. 

11 minutes ago, Nahm said:

That and daily morning meditation, and writing about how you feel when emotions come up and empty out. Then start considering retreats, trips, etc. Again, always up to you. Suggestions are like a buffet. Take what helps you where you’re at and leave the 

Thank you.  Will do this.. Already doing but will increase it just for you lol. 

 

12 minutes ago, Nahm said:

If you read this thread from the beginning, as well as your other thread, with an open mind, you can spot the reactions and behaviors. There is more than ample evidence for you to see

I'm not doing anything.  " I" don't exist.  I'm being serious.  There is no person.  I actually had a huge no-self experience this morning.. Holy fuck I don't fucking exist inside the body.. Like really every movement every thought every breath is not being done by me but rather is happening to me just like the sun rises to me not by me. 

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Nahm said:

If interested....

https://www.simplypsychology.org/defense-mechanisms.html

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/defense-mechanisms

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Not interested.   

[Nahm]

18 minutes ago, Someone here said:

For Christ's sake that's what I'm saying.  "you" are nothing but my finite mind. You are just an appearance in my mind my experience my whatever.. Call it whatever.. Remove the "my" if you like. But you get the idea.  If I go do something else right now.. Nahm will disappear from experience. Because what Nahm is, is the appearance of Nahm. This is NOT a belief. This is what actually happens experiential. I close my eyes.. You disappear.. I open them.. You reapear!! 

That is the solipsistic perspective. Don’t expect that you can see beyond it now, but consider that this can be accomplished with some work and much letting go. Again, just suggestions. 

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There is no difference.  Let's explore this.. What is a thought and what is a feeling?  First of all you can't tell the two apart.  What the hell is a thought if it's not a feeling or some kind of experience?   And what the hell is a "feeling " as a distinct thing from thoughts if not a thought?  Is that distinction a thought or a feeling.?you can't have feeling stripped from thoughts or thoughts about nothing with no feeling substance. 

Thoughts= feelings.  We can agree to disagree but I'm not just splitting hairs with you.. That's how I see it. 

You have to do the work. You’ll literally experience all of that entirely paradigm flipped. 

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Thank you.  Will do this.. Already doing but will increase it just for you lol. 

Hilarious. ?? 

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I'm not doing anything.  " I" don't exist.  I'm being serious.  There is no person.  I actually had a huge no-self experience this morning.. Holy fuck I don't fucking exist inside the body.. Like really every movement every thought every breath is not being done by me but rather is happening to me just like the sun rises to me not by me. 

Awesome. ? That whole paradigm flips as well. This is the Good news. Love you man. Appreciate the convo. 

[Someone here]

8 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Love you man. 

Love you too

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

@Javfly33

No!!!!!!

23 hours ago, Nahm said:

 

@Nahm @allislove Well, obviously you have access to more things that your finite mind, but, do you have access to other finite minds? ???

[zeroISinfinity]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

Love you too

Love you too. (this is just to make case for my ex forum wife) 

[Galyna]

2 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Love you too. (this is just to make case for my ex forum wife) 

yes-yes, this is exactly what I was talking about...read couple messages above, silly right? lol

 

 

[zeroISinfinity]

3 minutes ago, Galyna said:

yes-yes, this is exactly what I was talking about...read couple messages above, silly right? lol

 

 

One thing is here. God forbid I tell that to my gf like ever. 

Edited August 14, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[allislove]

@Javfly33 

Finite mind is an illusion. Infinite mind appears as infinite amount of finite minds. But there are no finite minds, everything is infinite mind. You can become conscious of it on the peak of 5-MeO-DMT experience for example. 

[Galyna]

1 minute ago, zeroISinfinity said:

One thing is here. God forbid I tell that to my gf. 

Do not say it if you are not ready and do not mean it.

 

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Love you too. (this is just to make case for my ex forum wife) 

No gay shit buddy.. But since you are too feminine that might have messed with your mind a bit. 

 

[zeroISinfinity]

Just now, Galyna said:

Do not say it if you are not ready and do not mean it.

 

I know it's just we tend to slap it all over the place. 

[Someone here]

@zeroISinfinity @Galyna 

[zeroISinfinity]

9 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@zeroISinfinity @Galyna 

Welcome to slavic soaps. 

Love you. 

[Javfly33]

11 minutes ago, allislove said:

@Javfly33 

Finite mind is an illusion. Infinite mind appears as infinite amount of finite minds. But there are no finite minds, everything is infinite mind. You can become conscious of it on the peak of 5-MeO-DMT experience for example. 

Idk, tried 5-MeO last Sunday, but it was confusing af. The universe woke up to itself but I couldn't make sense of much else, except with a subtle knowing that physical reality along with my body is a fucking dream.

So God is dreaming everything (it's projecting everything) through my character. Gets quite close to Solipsism I'll tell you that.

Others have no minds because others do not exist. Well, pardon me, The appararence of it exist. But what I mean is that God is not living another life right now , for example the life of @allislove and it's experiencing @allislove thoughts.

 

[allislove]

@Javfly33 Yes, there is only God, but it's called a little bit different, rather than Solipsism. It's called Non-Duality.  

I understand that it may be confusing at the beginning. You have to have a strong theoretical foundation, do regular spiritual practices like meditation. You have to have a breakthrough, perhaps even not one, then it all will make sense. The goal is to investigate the direct experience with open eyes when you are on the peak.

Good luck.

[Someone here]

36 minutes ago, allislove said:

@Javfly33 

Finite mind is an illusion. Infinite mind appears as infinite amount of finite minds. But there are no finite minds, everything is infinite mind. You can become conscious of it on the peak of 5-MeO-DMT experience for example. 

The only difference between this and solipsism  is like the difference between a human who has two eyes and an alien who has one eye.. It's basically the same awareness that's looking through your left eye is looking through your right eye.  Same thing if both me and you are aware but it's the same awareness looking through our eyes. Makes no difference if it's one eye that exists at a time or multiple eyes.. There is only one awareness  looking though whatever number of eyes we have. 

Edited August 14, 2020 by Someone here

[allislove]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 There is only one awareness

Exactly, you've got it ?

Other names for this awareness is Consciousness, Infinity, Nothing, Everything, Love, God, you.

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, allislove said:

Exactly, you've got it ?

Other names for this awareness is Consciousness, Infinity, Nothing, Everything, Love, God, you.

I prefer to not call it any names.

  What do you add to a tree when you call it a tree?.   

But most these names seem applicable to me except love. It doesn't resonate with me at all.