Can God love enough to endure Infinite Seperation?

[Nahm]

1 hour ago, Scholar said:

I don't think framing it this way makes sense. I wouldn't do many things because of my limted love. I wouldn't make people starve and suffer.

But from Ultimate Selflessness, I don't see how oce can say "No, I do not Accept Eternal Suffering, I do not Love Eternal Suffering!", rather one would Love Eternal Suffering as much as any other part of Creation. That would be true Selflessness. Therefore, the Infinite Expression could not be limited to a lack of Eternal Suffering.

You’re talking about yourself. That’s why it doesn’t make sense to you. When you stop talking about your ideas of you as you, and start inspecting direct experience, actual you, a lot of stuff makes a lot of sense. 

[zeroISinfinity]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 But once you awaken to what God is, it will all make 100% sense and you will realize that it cannot be otherwise.

 

@Leo Gura Actually I do have a question about this.

Source created all positives and blended them into pure love. But Source could have created lets say negative side but it didn't. It had freedom to do so but ehat prevented it, there was nothing to prevent that but for some reason it didn't happened. 

How? Why? 

Also there was no single mechanism to allow that or to prevent that. 

Edited May 25, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, zeroISinfinity said:

@Leo Gura Actually I do have a question about this.

Source created all positives and blended them into pure love. But Source could have created lets say negative side but it didn't. It had freedom to do so but ehat prevented it, there was nothing to prevent that but for some reason it didn't happened. 

How? Why? 

Also there was no single mechanism to allow that or to prevent that. 

Everything is positive from God's POV.

"Negative side" is something the ego mind projects on the world for the purposes of survival.

[Amit]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Everything is positive from God's POV.

"Negative side" is something the ego mind projects on the world for the purposes of survival.

Very interesting... Leo, when will be able to read your much awaited book? 

[zeroISinfinity]

44 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Everything is positive from God's POV.

"Negative side" is something the ego mind projects on the world for the purposes of survival.

No you was in God Conciosness. You know there is nothing "negative" not a single facet is negative. 

So ❤️ created all positives to infinity

So are negative facets  just not possible or what? 

Edited May 25, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

No you was in God Conciosness. You know there is nothing "negative" not a single facet is negative. 

So ❤️ created all positives to infinity

So are negative facets  just not possible or what? 

Not a single facet is negative because God consciousness don't project the idea of "negative".

Murder is a real part of God. But God doesn't judge it as wrong or negative the way a human mind does.

You have to truly grasp that murder is not negative.

[zeroISinfinity]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Not a single facet is negative because God consciousness don't project the idea of "negative".

Murder is a real part of God. But God doesn't judge it as wrong or negative the way a human mind does.

I meant in actual way not philospohical based on human egoic interpretation. 

Infinite Love Infinite Goodness etc yes even Infinite Humour they are actual facets of God. Actual, those are quite actually all positives. Positive side. 

Or maybe I am. Wrong maybe I interpret. Maybe that's a mistake. Not saying this in sarcastic manner. 

[AtheisticNonduality]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Not a single facet is negative because God consciousness don't project the idea of "negative".

Murder is a real part of God. But God doesn't judge it as wrong or negative the way a human mind does.

You have to truly grasp that murder is not negative.

You're removing all meaning from the word's "bad" and "negative."  Infinite love would never lead to murder obviously, and finite love only exists because finity is a requisite for infinity.  Clearly, you value you love, so why is more love not good and less love not bad?  What is the distinction between "less love = less good" and "less love = bad."

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

You're removing all meaning from the word's "bad" and "negative." 

The highest Love is realizing there is literally no difference between good and bad.

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Infinite love would never lead to murder obviously

Obviously it does, since murder occurs and God creates it, and God is Infinite Love.

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Clearly, you value you love, so why is more love not good and less love not bad?  What is the distinction between "less love = less good" and "less love = bad."

That's the kicker! True Love means you don't see a difference betweem more or less love. LOVE is absolute.

True Love embraces evil so deeply that evil is litterally converted into Love, leaving behind less than nothing. That is the very essence of love: the total embrace of EVERYTHING! Love is a Perfection without an opposite. It is ONE. Evil, badness, or negativity requires two, which is falsehood because Infinity is ONE. 

Truth = ONE = Love = God = YOU = Infinity = Nothing = Death

That's all there is to reality.

That is Total Awakening.

When you get this, you've completed life.

[zeroISinfinity]

Yes completed it. That's very True. Drinking probably last coffee and heading back into Singularity. Was fun ride I guess. Dream completed. 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Yes completed it. That's very True. Drinking probably last coffee and heading back into Singularity. Was fun ride I guess. Dream completed. 

You'll be back. There's nowhere to go and you love yourself too much to keep it all to yourself

[AtheisticNonduality]

@Leo Gura Why do you discourage murder?  For purely practical reasons?

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

@Leo Gura Why do you discourage murder?  For purely practical reasons?

Of course. What other reason would there be? Murder is done purely for practical reasons.

Also, murdering people is silly when you realize they are your own self.

[Mystica45]

@Leo Gura love is a concept. You will experience whatever concept you believe to be true on psychedelics.. .and then you come to the real world... Which you deny exists. Lol!

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Mystica45 said:

@Leo Gura love is a concept.

Ahahahahaha....

[Mystica45]

@Leo Gura i wasnt expecting any better response than that since you just believe what you WANT to believe and keep pumping up the delusion that keeps you and your followers on an infinite staircase to nowhere. 

[AtheisticNonduality]

@Leo Gura Eating is silly when you realize you're eating yourself?  Infinity loves murder because it HAS TO, because infinity is directly dependent on finities such as the mental conditions that lead to murder.  Murder wouldn't just happen in a nondual state because murder is impossible with no subject and object.  It would happen because you wouldn't destroy something you love.

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Mystica45 said:

@Leo Gura i wasnt expecting any better response than that since you just believe what you WANT to believe and keep pumping up the delusion that keeps you and your followers on an infinite staircase to nowhere. 

You speak of things you don't understand.

[James123]

8 minutes ago, Mystica45 said:

@Leo Gura i wasnt expecting any better response than that since you just believe what you WANT to believe and keep pumping up the delusion that keeps you and your followers on an infinite staircase to nowhere. 

This is not a belief. You become the love with direct experience. And thoughts are illusions, because of that the only way to understand the truth, you have to become it. You think you are a human now with trusting words. Lol  

[Mystica45]

@Leo Gura lol trust me i know all about the "love experience" i was a christian, ppl getting "slain in the spirit" and passing out due to "divine love"... It's a sensual experience. Has zero to do with liberation. 

As long as you have the idea of "love" in your mind, you will be bound to hate. You're a dualist, essentialy - soul inside of a body. No different than the Christians i grew up with

The mind structure looks at nature and sees that it is a horror and thus creates the story of "everything being love" in order to cope with the harsh truth of it. I wanna see you look at a malnourished child in africa and tell him "it's all love". This "love" you feel is a projection of your imagination (it's very convenient how you say EVERYTHING is imagination - that way your metaphysicak stories can continue to exist)

Concepts like "God" and "Love" have done more damage to the world than ANYTHING.