Donald Trump

[tenta]

1 minute ago, Amit said:

@Leo Gura sometimes, are you really POTUS ?, I like your twitter account, very very much... 

"Self-help Youtuber, psychonaut, yogi, philosopher, psychologist, entrepreneur, speaker. I help people understand reality & the mind at the deepest levels."

Lol, sounds like a fake account. 

[Amit]

@tenta according to your model, Leo will be POTUS in 2075 ?

[Tetcher]

> You are Hitler. Once you realize that, your understanding of slaughter will change.

I don't understand your point at all, the way Hitler industrialized human killing is pretty much comparable to the industry of killing animals. Check out the documentary Dominion (why not post it on your blog?)

Not only animal suffering but also global warming as the meat industry is one of the largest CO2 producing industry. So you're frowning on Trump for having quit the climat deal and having no consideration for global warming but you can't give up meat eating to align your life with love and climat? You say Trump devilry will cause tremendous suffering so I don't get it, are you saying that meat industry is not causing suffering or that only human suffering counts ?

Also the argument of "someone did worse than I did so leave me alone" seems a low consciousness one.

Finally I'm not judging you, what I noticed is that you like to bask in your authoritative tone on both deep and surface level topics so I'm pointing that your integration work is very much lagging behind which in turn raise the question have you really discovered truth? If you can't adapt your behavior to the truth you think you've discovered then at the very least you're missing the part of the truth that empowers you to adapt.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Tetcher said:

I don't understand your point at all

Indeed, awakening is required.

Just what do you think Oneness means?

You think you are going to realize Oneness and still maintain that you did are not doing industrialized killing?

It's all you baby! Whatever horrors you see in the world are the very horrors you created. You are not gonna be able to blame anyone else for it.

[dkamenev]

On 5/15/2020 at 0:56 PM, tenta said:

That wouldn't make it better. Also someone buying the finished product is not indirectly slaughtering them, just like someone driving a car isn't causing suffering through climate change, as climate change will happen anyway and you aren't showing how one individual is causing damage.

You're a vegan, but you haven't stopped animals from being slaughtered.

That's a cute denial, however keep in mind that as a consumer whatever you consume - you promote.

Also even if you by yourself won't change everything, you are still either part of the problem or part of the solution.

I'm not vegan not the way, but I do try to be mindful of how I spend my money and limit animal product intake.

[tenta]

2 hours ago, dkamenev said:

That's a cute denial, however keep in mind that as a consumer whatever you consume - you promote.

Also even if you by yourself won't change everything, you are still either part of the problem or part of the solution.

I'm not vegan not the way, but I do try to be mindful of how I spend my money and limit animal product intake.

The problem is the meat industry and millions of people buy meat, what have you accomplished by going vegan? You haven't solved the problem, that's for sure.

Edited May 17, 2020 by tenta

[Freakyboo]

On 5/14/2020 at 8:45 PM, Consept said:

Obama made a point that he was painted as some extreme left president, which is way he got a lot of hate which made the pendulum swing too far which meant when it swung back it was gonna be someone who was perceived to be the opposite of Obama, hence trump. In reality Obama is a lot more center left 

Yes, the pendulum has swung far far away from Obama (into crazy-town), but that is nothing to do with Obama's actual politics.  He was painted as a "socialist" and "communist" by the hysterical RW propaganda machine and people were brainwashed into questioning Michelle Obama's gender, which is utterly ridiculous but shows just how effective that propaganda machine has become. 

Obama was actually a capitalist who tried to bring in some more moderate laws, such as changes to gun ownership laws so that mentally ill people can't aquire them and shoot up a school.  But no, the gun lobby can't allow that so Obama was demonised.

[Freakyboo]

On 5/14/2020 at 9:49 PM, Light Lover said:

All I know is that he is the funniest US President to date!

Would you find him funny if you were an immigrant being taken in the night back to the border by the Trump administration's goons, while your child was left behind?  Or if you were Transgender or some other minority fearing being beaten to death by White Nationalists who have been emboldened by Trump's rhetoric?

[Freakyboo]

On 5/14/2020 at 10:43 PM, Amit said:

@louhad even Joe is going to have those lobbyists, the difference is. Trump doesn't listen to these interests, if he does not find them in national interest.

while Joe will be run by these lobbyists because he is fighting on their money. 

I don't think you understand how the system works. 

Before Trump, lobbyists were just lobbyists - they have too much power yes, but that is due to changes in laws which enabled Politicians to take money from lobby groups.

Trump has filled his actual cabinet with Lobbyists - which means they are now THE GOVERNMENT and they will make all Governmental decisions based on how they can make the most money for themselves and their interests.  This is the definition of absolute corruption - we have truly reached the bottom of the barrel.

[yonaash]

@Leo Gura You are God. You are Love. You are Infinity. You are Leo Gura. You are Hitler. lolol  

[dkamenev]

@tenta

On 5/17/2020 at 5:15 PM, tenta said:

The problem is the meat industry and millions of people buy meat, what have you accomplished by going vegan? You haven't solved the problem, that's for sure.

I'm not preaching going vegan, and it's not so much about solving the problem.

The way I see it my options are: 

1) Keep my eyes shut, and avoid thinking or looking at the harsh reality - that is compromising my consciousnesses

2) Be aware of what's happening but continue to act as usual - that is compromising my integrity and dis-powering myself by surrendering to the norm 

3)Try to make some behavioral change in order for my for my behavior to match my worldview and values.

 

Out of those 3 options I like the 3rd one the most, that's how I see it.

[Light Lover]

@Freakyboo Probably not, but I have a dark sense of humor, unfortunately. Also, I didn't mean Trump's actions are funny, I mean I like to laugh at him as a person, being as weird as he is.