Does Fucking Music Prevent Spiritual Growth?

[Evil Raccoon]

@Cocolove Your typical stage orange/red song.Very poetic and lovely!

 

Edited May 13, 2020 by Evil Raccoon

[Evil Raccoon]

@Nahm Wtf I'm SO far away from being loving and selfless  

[Loving Radiance]

9 minutes ago, Evil Raccoon said:

Wtf I'm SO far away from being loving and selfless  

You are that even when you don't realize yet.

Does the last comment from Nahm feel good for you? What of that do you want to be? Maybe this is so fucking inspiring that you finally see the potential in you to uncover & realize your hidden capacity.

Edited May 13, 2020 by Loving Radiance

[Evil Raccoon]

@Loving Radiance I'm not sayin I NEVER feel compassion, love and shit like that, I'm human.But fundamentally what is my life all about? It's all about serving my fucking self from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to bed.I'm a fucking devil dude, make no mistake about it.

[Loving Radiance]

22 minutes ago, Evil Raccoon said:

I'm not sayin I NEVER feel compassion, love and shit like that

I thought you are "far away". When you see something in the distance it is blurry, so maybe you want to come closer to it, if it intuitively feels good.

Does the last comment from Nahm feel good for you? What of that do you want to be?

My perspective is that I feel his last comment was an appeal to your potential will to FUCKING WANT pure goodness and compassionate selfless love.

 

EDIT: Ok, enough derailing of the thread.

Edited May 13, 2020 by Loving Radiance

[Evil Raccoon]

28 minutes ago, Loving Radiance said:

I thought you are "far away".

I'm far away from the hippie/spiritual lifestyle, that's what I'm tryin to say.

28 minutes ago, Loving Radiance said:

Does the last comment from Nahm feel good for you? What of that do you want to be?

It felt amusing, I like that guy  (no homo).

I don't understand the second question pal.

28 minutes ago, Loving Radiance said:

My perspective is that I feel his last comment was an appeal to your potential will to FUCKING WANT pure goodness and compassionate selfless love.

I dunno dude, I don't think I'll be a Hero in this lifetime.Maybe I'm a younger soul who needs to go through the Anti-Hero/Villain path first.Or maybe I'm full of shit and just talking nonsense, who the fuck knows.I have no idea what to do with my life therefore I'm just playin the default position (which is serving ego of course).

 

Edited May 13, 2020 by Evil Raccoon

[Nahm]

2 hours ago, Evil Raccoon said:

@Nahm Wtf I'm SO far away from being loving and selfless  

Well, if you say so. You do create your reality, and you can’t get it wrong.

[Evil Raccoon]

21 hours ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

From this perspective, your mind can't be "chimped"

Oh you think so? Then what's the whole fucking point of detoxifying ourselves from mainstream culture in order to persue Truth if our minds can't be programmed? "Society is an amusement park for the ego" as the fucking bald guy owning this fucking web site said.

[Evil Raccoon]

21 hours ago, Nahm said:

You do create your reality, and you can’t get it wrong.

Do u mean that no perspective is innacurate? If so then why am I still suffering? They're might be something I don't see/understand yet.

[nistake]

@Evil Raccoon As Leo has said several times, you don't need to become a hermit and live in a cave for the rest of your life to experience the Truth. Just do the work diligently, maintain a healthy balance between your material life and spiritual life and you'll be just fine.

[Evil Raccoon]

@nistake That might be true but fuck what Leo said.My OWN direct experience of things and intuition is more reliabe than what someone says.I was just quoting his amusement park metaphor to give him credit and cuz I think that it's true.

[Evil Raccoon]

14 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

@Evil Raccoon

You are trying to make others responsible for how YOU feel

Ok let's say the chimpery comes from me, not from society.Then why am I like that? Was I just born to be a fucking chimp? Should I persue chimptum if it's honestly what I wanna do?

Edited May 14, 2020 by Evil Raccoon

[Nahm]

3 hours ago, Evil Raccoon said:

Do u mean that no perspective is innacurate? If so then why am I still suffering? They're might be something I don't see/understand yet.

No perspective is no perspective, and thus could not be said to be accurate or inaccurate. You’re creating your reality, and as well you are reality. So it really doesn’t matter if you’re living the life you want, thriving & self discovering, realizing the truth of self & world, etc. There’s no ‘wrong or right’ for anyone. You could listen to the suffering & liberate aligning with truth, or continue suppressing it - and you’ve not ‘gotten anything wrong’. It simply, literally, just doesn’t matter. 

[Evil Raccoon]

19 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

But you aren't a child anymore. You have to be responsible and take control yourself now! It took me quiet a while to realize this for myself, so don't make the same mistake that I made. You can live a life that somebody else created for you, or you can start creating your own life.

That's why I fucking broke away from the fa*-ass stage blue/religious programming of my stupid family in my late teenage years.Little that I knew stage orange is also a programming lol.And I didn't even know about Spiral Dynamics back then, I just wanted to let go of all that bullshit and embrace my individuality/do my own thing.

26 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

Meditation. That is the most powerful thing you can do. If you aren't meditating right now then start doing that. If you don't know what meditation is/what the benefits are, then start watching a few videos on YouTube. 

I already meditate bro.I think NoFap is even more powerful (or as powerful) cuz, my God, porn just completely rots your brain and makes u numb/unconscious as fuck.To me porn is DEFINITELY one of the most toxic chimp stuff in the cage (society) and Leo barely talks about NoFap or semen retention, shame.

37 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

And you also have to do something that most men struggle with. Becoming more feminine. Open up to your emotions and to how you feel.

Well I don't have a problem with talking about my emotions and shit like that just don't ask me to wear a fucking skirt while acting hyper feminine and I'll be fine.

44 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

this life style of "chimptum" (HAHAH what a fucking word).

Hahaha it's been killing me ever since I first heard it in the notorious chimp episode  

[Evil Raccoon]

8 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

Can I give you an advise on that? Don't be so sure! NEVER be sure about that one! NEVER ever! Quiet a lot of people fall into the trap of THINKING that they know. But they really don't. Your mind is really good at hiding that kind of stuff.

Advice taken.I still recognize that I'm a pretty insecure person tho.

10 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

How much do you meditate? 

For 1 fucking hour 2 times a day.Been doin this for like 2 months now.

[Evil Raccoon]

@Nahm Except u're saying all that from a higher level of consciousness so I can't understand you from where I am.it's not real for me, it's just ideas and ideas don't count for shit.

[LfcCharlie4]

@Evil Raccoon  Reading through all of this it seems like you're putting yourself under a lot of pressure regarding topics like this I used to do it too, so I know how you feel. 

The simplest answer is naturally work on your spirituality and your growth and then naturally you will find music you align more with and prefer listening to, if you still enjoy 'Chimp music' from time to time, so be it, some of the songs are really good and enjoyable to listen to. 

Well done on focusing on your own direct experience that is KING in this work!

Sounds go cliché and spiritual, but simply follow your heart and give yourself a break, if you want to 'be a chimp' for a few years and integrate Orange there's nothing 'wrong ' with that, in fact suppressing it may make it express itself in even more negative ways. The more you reject the 'Chimp' way of life the more you create a shadow around that, instead you could simply live how you please, and organically outgrow that lifestyle and then instead of shaming these people, you could just say, yeah that's fun and I see the allure of that lifestyle, but it's not for me anymore and I want to do X instead. This way you don't create a shadow around it and can actually integrate healthy Orange and enjoy life!

After all, to me at least, life is all about being happy and enjoying yourself. If you don't truly want in your heart to pursue spirituality, don't do it until you do, it really is as simple as that!  

[LfcCharlie4]

Also, please remember Spirituality doesn't mean the end to life, in fact it's the opposite. 

Awakening is the true beginning of life. 

It doesn't mean you can't go out and ENJOY yourself, or go out and see friends and have FUN, of course you can! 

Life simply becomes a celebration and an expression of the happiness, love, joy and peace you feel inside!

Meaning, yes you can have sex, yes you can have fun, yes you can live a 'normal' life and have a family and a career and listen to music you love and play games you love! 

The big difference is, you are no longer searching for happiness in ANYTHING, life simply becomes an expression of happiness. 

And, the actions are always coming from a place of LOVE. 

So, my overall advice is go enjoy yourself man, in your words and messages you sound quite angry and resentful about things, go give yourself a break and have a fucking fun weekend!

[Evil Raccoon]

1 hour ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

@Evil Raccoon  Reading through all of this it seems like you're putting yourself under a lot of pressure regarding topics like this

I have to bro, I only have this one life so I gotta find out what the fuck I wanna do/who the fuck I wanna be.One of my greatest fear is to waste years of my life (or my entire life for that matter) chasing/doing somethin I shouldn't in the first place.Now I feel like I'm just playing default and wasting time.And I know, the spiritual path requires patience and life-long commitement and that is why I wanna find out if I really wanna do this.

1 hour ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

in your words and messages you sound quite angry and resentful about things

Nah I'm not angry dude, I just love using the word "fuck" so much <3 

[Nahm]

@Evil Raccoon

It’s real for you. It’s why you’re suffering and why you’re here.