Consciousness: Just another attempt of the mind to claim it Knows the Unknowable...

[ivankiss]

@Galyna Nope. Wouldn't blame psychedelics. I did most of my "consciousness work" sober. 

If there was a "problem", I would say it was my inability to comprehend what I was becoming conscious of in my direct experience, thus inevitably misinterpreting it. Failing to properly ground and imply the realizations I had.

@James123 Dizzy 

[James123]

9 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Galyna Nope. Wouldn't blame psychedelics. I did most of my "consciousness work" sober. 

If there was a "problem", I would say it was my inability to comprehend what I was becoming conscious of in my direct experience, thus inevitably misinterpreting it. Failing to properly ground and imply the realizations I had.

@James123 Dizzy 

Lol. There is nothing except you:)

[ivankiss]

@James123

 

[James123]

 It is the truth. Everything is you. Thats it. 

Edited May 12, 2020 by James123

[James123]

@ivankiss the lsd’s or dmt,s are you. There is nothing here, except you. You are breathing yourself and talking to yourself. All is one, and it is you. 

[ivankiss]

@James123 Indeed.

However, even that can become a trap. 

Imo, all realizations should be integrated and let go of. No matter how deep and beautiful.

Edited May 12, 2020 by ivankiss

[traveler]

10 hours ago, WHO IS said:

It seems to me, that when someone is stuck in a life/scenario/existence that gives too much suffering to handle for the person to face the suffering face-value, the person starts to believe that he/she/it himself/herself/itself doesn't exist, in order to cope better and further with the situation.

Do you think people who enjoy their existence/life think that they don't exist? The fact is thinking/philosophizing won't make you stop existing. 

Because, Being comes before thinking. To think, implies that there is someone who is doing it. 

This is true and a very real trap. I am guilty of haven falled into this. The message is not for the individual, it has nothing to offer for the individual. When the individual hears this, it will turn it into a belief, it has no control over this. It becomes a belief like you just said, you can begin to bypass energetic blockages when believing in this. The energy blockage will then get protected by the belief of there being no individual. Unknowingly you walk in a mist of yourself, thinking you're not there when it is opposite to your actual experience. This is of course just happening, but why believe that there is nothing you can do, when the opposite is obviously just as true and just as false.

Edited May 12, 2020 by traveler

[WelcometoReality]

@WHO IS The true self is no self and the no self is everything. ?

[James123]

4 hours ago, ivankiss said:

However, even that can become a trap. 

How? This is the truth. Thats it. You are existence itself. All is you. And you are nothing and everything. 

[ivankiss]

@James123 If you turn it into a belief or something you just keep telling yourself and others, rather than simply being conscious of "it" continuously. That's how.

Yeah, I am God. So what? 

One who is truly and completely conscious of being God, has no need to tell anyone anything about it. Since, as you said, everyone and everything is already God.

 

[James123]

1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

@James123 If you turn it into a belief or something you just keep telling yourself and others, rather than simply being conscious of "it" continuously. That's how.

Yeah, I am God. So what? 

One who is truly and completely conscious of being God, has no need to tell anyone anything about it. Since, as you said, everyone and everything is already God.

 

Yes, i am telling myself now. And you are me. It is just my game. I am all here and exist as nothing. Check the stage 10 according to zen. I am not trying to convince you, if you dont want, you dont need to believe me. However, I realized that i am god in first place with getting help from someone else. If you realize it, you will be thanking yourself, which is me. Lol

[ivankiss]

@James123 Thanks God. 

[James123]

5 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Yeah, I am God. So what? 

Your only purpose is being here, as being. You are infinite, and experiencing one of the infinite your side as god. And nothing is here except you. This dialogue is happening within you.

[James123]

1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

@James123 Thanks God. 

thank to yourself  you will find yourself sooner or later  

[ivankiss]

@James123 May you be blessed 

[zeroISinfinity]

12 hours ago, James123 said:

@ivankiss the lsd’s or dmt,s are you. There is nothing here, except you. You are breathing yourself and talking to yourself. All is one, and it is you. 

Thanks for inducing suicidal depression. If everything is me and I know myself, not some great guy lets just say that. Then we need to end it all. ASAP ?☺️

I can't be God I am afraid of ?. I Despise ??. Oh yes and that guy from gym thanks to spiritual practises. 

Wanna taste backhand on your ass well better then 5-meo I guess. 

No amount of meditation will clear my dirty mind lol. 

Edited May 12, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[James123]

26 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Yeah, I am God. So what? 

When you realize that everything is you, you are the consciousness itself. What can better than this? Lol

 

27 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

One who is truly and completely conscious of being God, has no need to tell anyone anything about it. Since, as you said, everyone and everything is already God.

 

Additionally, enlightened people are just most simple people in the world. Do you think enlightenment is just sitting or you dont talk to anyone? Because you are super conscious stuff lol. NO. Enlightenment is simply just being. You just realize that there is nothing in the body, this place exist as nothing and you are exist as nothing and thats why you are everything here. There is no one here except you. I am just your imagination as your body. You are not the body, you are everything what you see at the moment exist as nothing.  When you realize, you will just laugh at yourself, which is me lol.

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

When you realize that everything is you, you are the consciousness itself. What can better than this? Lol

 

Additionally, enlightened people are just most simple people in the world. Do you think enlightenment is just sitting or you dont talk to anyone? Because you are super conscious stuff lol. NO. Enlightenment is simply just being. You just realize that there is nothing in the body, this place exist as nothing and you are exist as nothing and thats why you are everything here. There is no one here except you. I am just your imagination as your body. You are not the body, you are everything what you see at the moment exist as nothing.  When you realize, you will just laugh at yourself, which is me lol.

Oh boy..

[James123]

18 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Thanks for inducing suicidal depression. If everything is me and I know myself, not some great guy lets just say that. Then we need to end it all. ASAP ?☺️

I can't be God I am afraid of ?. I Despise ??. Oh yes and that guy from gym thanks to spiritual practises. 

Wanna taste backhand on your ass well better then 5-meo I guess. 

No amount of meditation will clear my dirty mind lol. 

No need to suicide. This body is not you. Lol. Body will die not you. When the body dies you will be just here As nothing nowhere else Lol. You are not the body, you are the moment now, what you see everything is you and exist as nothing. Nothing can happen to you because you are nothing but aware. You are not the body, you are the thing that is aware of the body.  

[zeroISinfinity]

@James123 So I am just some sort of camera or empty bubble and all of this happens inside bubble but when body dies I will be empty bubble?