Posted April 27, 2020 God is Finite and impermanent as all things are Many religions in the history of the world have worshiped a finite god. The attribution of the belief in “infinity” has lead toward a de-personalizing of God. God is in actuality finite and personal but supreme above all other finite and personal beings. God has a specific nature and it includes certain limitations that are not voluntary on God’s part. Among those limitations are that God cannot know the future insofar as it contains events not yet knowable because they will be determined by free will beings other than God and that God cannot coerce free creatures to do his will. These denials/affirmations about God are necessary “contractions” apart from which the “expansion” would make God religiously unavailable if not irrelevant. Concern with the problem of evil—i.e., with reconciling the existence of evil with that of a good God—becomes acute for thinkers who rest their case mainly on the existence of evil in the world they find around them, and this has led many to realize a finite God, according to which the world may be under the direction of a superior being who is nonetheless limited in power, though not in goodness. This is a serious alternative to the idea of a supreme and unlimited source of all reality as found in the usual forms of theism. Indeed, it is a moot point whether the idea of a finite God should be classified as a form of theism. It does come close to traditional theism, however, in its insistence on the unity and absolute benevolence of God. There are clearly advantages in the notion of God as a limited being, especially where evil is concerned. Though one could still insist that God intends nothing that is not wholly good, one can now account for extensive suffering and other ills on the basis of the limits to God’s power. God is doing his utmost but there are are evil powers—that he has not yet subdued, though hopefully he will eventually do so. There is also induced in this way a sense of urgency in humanity’s own obligation, as the apex of creation, to cooperate with God—to be a “fellow worker.” God will clearly need this help, though he himself is in the vanguard of the battle against evil. Thus, those who incline to the idea of a finite God usually have been activist in thought and practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2020 Interesting read Do you believe in a finite god? Or are you considering this viewpoint? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2020 @Nak Khid God is both finite and infinite, also either and neither. It's so infinite that it could make itself either, both, and neither at the same time. Thought cannot capture the essence of God. Evil only exists inside you. It is not an actual thing. Whatever evil you see, is your own. Think about it this way; your identity (ego) hinges upon you wanting the world to be a certain way. There's nothing wrong with the world, really. Not even rape, torture, or murder. You're only trying to maintain your perspective by denying these things. You're not trying to survive yourself, or help others live a better life. You're only concerned about your worldview. That's your own evil. And of course in pointing that out, I'm not saying that you have to change. I love you for who you are. I love your evil. It's really not different to me than rape, torture, or murder. I love all parts of myself. But I want to ask you a question; imagine that all the evils you've ever thought of have been removed from reality. Like literally everything. All evil wiped out, okay? Ask yourself; Will I then be satisfied, like permanently? Or will I start desiring and chasing something else? Make sure you be brutally honest with yourself here. Because the answer to this question is root cause of all evil. You are the ultimate devil, but you can't see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, The observer said: @Nak Khid God is both finite and infinite, also eithe r and neither. It's so infinite that it could make itself either, both, and neither at the same time. False. God is not a synonym for everything 19 minutes ago, The observer said: @Nak Khid Evil only exists inside you. It is not an actual thing. Whatever evil you see, is your own. Think about it this way; your identity (ego) hinges upon you wanting the world to be a certain way. There's nothing wrong with the world, really. Not even rape, torture, or murder. False and destructive deception 19 minutes ago, The observer said: @Nak Khid You're only concerned about your worldview. False 20 minutes ago, The observer said: @Nak Khid I love you for who you are. I love your evil. It's really not different to me than rape, torture, or murder. I love all parts of myself. But I want to ask you a question Then you have fallen in love with evil and that is wrong. "Up is Down" "Hot is Cold" , these sort of statements are meaningless attempts to try to dismantle a person's discernment . Rape, torture and murder are not things to be love. They are destructive and cause suffering. You have been mis-taught and misguided. This is not what the Sages teach, nor those of healthy mind. It's simple, don't poison the water 26 minutes ago, The observer said: @Nak Khid All evil wiped out, okay? Ask yourself; Will I then be satisfied, like permanently? Or will I start desiring and chasing something else? Make sure you be brutally honest with yourself here. Because the answer to this question is root cause of all evil. You are the ultimate devil, but you can't see it. The basic problem are these grandiose mindgames, hypothetical extreme questions designed to confuse and daze and result in a divorce one from treating oneself and others humanely, an entranced stupor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2020 @Nak Khid I love your evil, you don't love mine. It hurts but nothing new here. I am the ultimate devil too. I love our differences. Can you love them too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2020 @Nak Khid Dude, stop spreading ignorance here. As if you understand what God is. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites