Leo’s video Feedback

[Nahm]

@DLH Love & compassion can’t be misunderstood or misused. 

[Nahm]

@TheGreekSeeker Yep.  

[Nahm]

@TheGreekSeeker Unconditionally. 

[Forestluv]

@DLH At a personal level, introspection for me is easiest at the two extremes. When there’s a mixed-bag, it’s much harder for me to sort through. 

[DLH]

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

Love & compassion can’t be misunderstood or misused. 

I will have to disagree with your POV on this one.  Love & compassion can be misunderstood or misused when someone is unconscious, operating from anger, fear, hate, manipulation and vengeance etc.  From the absolute aspect, yes, I would have to agree with you, but I don’t think anyone has reached the absolute state and essence of Love and Compassion that I am aware of.

Deep seeded unconscious thoughts, ideas, imaginations, beliefs, feelings and emotions will have a huge influence on how we humans perceive and express our feelings of Love and compassion from our limited human POV.   Yes, I get the POV of love you are pointing towards, but I am trying to point towards superficial aspects of there use, comprehension and expressions.  

Edited April 20, 2020 by DLH

[Nahm]

@DLH Misunderstanding occurs in thinking. Love & compassion can’t be thought. That’s why there’s the path, etc. There is no separate self which could use or misuse love & compassion, there is only the perspective of absolute. What is said to be unconscious cant be said to be influencing. “Limited human point of view” is not perception, it’s a belief.

[DLH]

On 4/19/2020 at 8:38 PM, Nahm said:

What is said to be unconscious cant be said to be influencing. “Limited human point of view” is not perception, it’s a belief.

Thanks for sharing, I understand your POV, and that is what I am basically point to; "Limited human point of view” is not perception, it’s a belief".  Whether we like it or not, we are in the Human Earth experiment, which primarily functions from our attachments to beliefs. There are beliefs that individuals are aware of at the surface level, sub conscious level, and then there are beliefs far deeper in the Ego human conscious Mind that most people are not aware of.  Our beliefs have a huge influence on the Human experience and they are aspects of behaviours, feelings and emotions.  These beliefs may, or may not be expressed, felt or understood fully at the individual and collective levels by some Red, Blue, orange and possibly higher SD's.   You and I, and many on these forums have their own POV's of Love and Compassion from their beliefs, and we all express and understand them differently from these operational Beliefs of varying levels of awareness.  Yes, “Love & compassion can’t be thought". I fully agree with you and understand this Truth!  But from the EGO human conscious “Devilish” Mind, it can also be perceived and acted on unconsciously through many layers and filters of beliefs.  Underneath these beliefs, Yes, everything is Love!  Some people may be aware of this absolute Love, but then there are many people that are not.  It is the lack of awareness of how these devilish beliefs that unknowingly are perceived, misuse and misunderstood, within the umbrella of absolute Love and Compassion that I am pointing to.   

Just sharing a POV

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Edited April 21, 2020 by DLH

[Nahm]

@DLH

Neat. It’s possible the more subtly desired inquiry which initially “resulted” in creating this thread is arising in clarity. A flipping of outward inspection, inward, if you will. If you’re interested, just for fun, these questions come to mind...

1 hour ago, DLH said:

 I understand your POV

What is it, actually?

1 hour ago, DLH said:

There are beliefs that individuals are aware of at the surface level, sub conscious level, and then there are beliefs far deeper in the Ego human conscious Mind that most people are not aware of

Can you explain an example ‘close to home’...a belief you are aware of which you are not conscious of?

[DLH]

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

3 hours ago, DLH said:

 I understand your POV

What is it, actually?

Okay, no one can actually fully understand and fully realize another persons POV, they can only imply they understand from their own POV.

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

3 hours ago, DLH said:

There are beliefs that individuals are aware of at the surface level, sub conscious level, and then there are beliefs far deeper in the Ego human conscious Mind that most people are not aware of

Can you explain an example ‘close to home’...a belief you are aware of which you are not conscious of?

No, I can't, If I am aware of my unconscious belief, consequently, will no longer be unconscious!

If I were to give you an example, the example can only come from a past perceived unconscious belief that escaped my attention in the past, and was outside my field of Human Mind conscious attention at point of time, but has now been made aware of in the present moment, or in the past-future.

Having said that, let’s kindly not continue with dissecting the literal and grammatical interpretations of words to describe POV’s, I am merely try to express thoughts, ideas and beliefs as a form of sharing thoughts, ideas and beliefs for people to ponder on.

In all fairness, lets please allow people the opportunity to return to the original topic if they are interested.

Thanks again Nahm, you do provide food for thought(s)! ✌

Edited April 21, 2020 by DLH

[Nahm]

@DLH

Isn’t ‘the past’ a belief though? 

How can there be an ‘unconscious belief’ which is contingent on another belief (the past)?

What I’m getting at is all which could be said to be ‘needed’ to see, is already what is, what is presently thought & felt. That there is nothing beyond surface. (Ultimately revealing love & compassion aren’t a point of view, perspective, thought, subconscious, or belief.)

With respect to your request though, yes. Ignore this and return to the topic. No worries. 

[zeroISinfinity]

On 20.4.2020. at 0:51 AM, Nahm said:

@DLH Nice introspection, & no worries.  Just remember it’s a dream & he doesn’t exist. 

When I read this, is just what's the point.Why not stay as "remembering". 

Why bother? 

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity

Not sure what you’re saying there. Do you mean...why did I forget? Or why bother offering, as in conversing...?

[zeroISinfinity]

Why I bother with this dream? 

Not interesting anymore. It's much more interesting when you do not know. 

Why bother with continuation? 

[SgtPepper]

The video is beautiful and raw, I really enjoyed it and sometimes teared up myself because I have experienced some of the acceptance and love Leo is talking about.

I remember when Leo came out with infinite reality like 3 years ago and I was like how would Leo top this? how much further can he go? haha.

Leo you are a beautiful man when you speak your truth.

The ending concerns me a little only cause, I can't tell if you are actually going to die physically, or will you be reborn and be true to Unconditional Love?. I am curious why 'dying' is seen as the highest act of love. Why not devout yourself to helping others in a more risky way? 

Like I have been studying Christian saints and some of these guys like St. Francis Assisi would go help people with Leprosy. Is this dedicated not the highest form of love? To give your life for others?

 

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity

Oh I got ya. Thanks. It’s because. 

(Good journal inquiry. I derailed this one already apparently before you even got here ?)

[zeroISinfinity]

@Nahm Don't get me wrong but for God there’s no experience entire thing is pretty much masturbation. 

I am that Love which is Everything. 

But ok. 

Hard to recover and deep down like my life is taken away, I feel that way. 

Like I am killed lol. 

Edited April 21, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[GodDesireOnlyLove]

5 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

@Nahm Don't get me wrong but for God there’s no experience entire thing is pretty much masturbation. 

I am that Love which is Everything. 

But ok. 

Hard to recover and deep down like my life is taken away, I feel that way. 

Like I am killed lol. 

Yes we've been there. You inspired me though little Jesus ❤️? 

Recover well & sleep well. And you'll soon see life again what you had was just the beggining of a greater story.

[Galyna]

21 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

@Nahm Don't get me wrong but for God there’s no experience entire thing is pretty much masturbation. 

I am that Love which is Everything. 

But ok. 

Hard to recover and deep down like my life is taken away, I feel that way. 

Like I am killed lol. 

I am thinking about this too, I can resonate with you. But deep down I feel that all the intellectual paradigm that I was building for so many years is falling apart like a card house. I do not even know what to think anymore. Sometimes, pondering is very overwhelming. Maybe we just need to concentrate on some physical activities or hobbies to let it go for a while. I used to be aware all the time and had some space where there were no thoughts. Now it feels weird inside, on top of that I have a disturbing mind. I can not even describe my feeling. It feels like a gnawing wound. That is the best definition I can ascribe to my sensation. 

[Mu_]

On 4/19/2020 at 11:39 AM, DLH said:

It has come to my attention the topic title is not appropriate and has touched some people’s sensitive spots.  I apologize for the dramatic title.  Unfortunately, I am unable to change the title due to technicalities, but would like to change the titled to, “Leo’s video Feedback”.

I just watched your most recent video hoping I would learn something beyond my own DMT experiences, critical thinking, other spiritual modalities and research.  What I have learned was that you do have a grasp of some deeper aspects of consciousness and perspectives that differ from other conscious human mind POV.  But IMHO you are still just scratching the surface of what reality is from a 3-dimensional perspective and maybe a fourth. 

Don’t get me wrong, I resonate with many of your perspectives that you have graciously shared in your videos and comments in the forum.  Your ability to articulate and systematically discriminate thoughts, ideas and beliefs far exceed my own abilities.  

Having said that, I would like to see our forum members discuss the labels below in more depth, and go beyond the basics tossing around of these limited labels:

God = Love

Nothing = Everything

You are God

You are imagining everything

You are me

Only one Consciousness

Love is the answer!

Etc., etc., etc.

I feel these limited labels are used to freely in a limited 3D and some basic 4D perspectives, and would like to see us dig deeper into there full potential expression. 

You have shared with me many profound insights and perspectives and I would like to return the favor.  If you interested in exploring possibly deep aspects of reality!  May I suggest you read the following books:

Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul.

The Nature of Personal Reality.

The "Unknown" Reality Vol. 1 &2

The Nature of the Psyche:

The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events

Dreams, Evolution and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 &2

These books and perspectives are almost 50 plus years old and go much further down the rabbit hole then most of your thoughts, ideas, imaginations, beliefs and awareness than what you have shared so far.  Yes, the books are old, but no one that I have listened, watched, or read comes anywhere close to the depths of reality then these books share!

I don’t want to burst your bubble, but "No", you are not the most conscious human that every existed on this planet IMHO, and there are many more people that are way beyond your level of conscious understanding.  I am sharing this perspective with you out of Love.  Yes, it may be perceived as Tough Love, but it is still an aspect of Love to help point you into deeper levels of consciousness and awareness.

As a "fellow" student on the path towards consciousness and awareness, I would like to say that yes, I have had my ass kicked many, many times with tough love. Tough Love comes from many sources. 

With a profound level of Love, I hope you are willing to explore other possibilities and sources of knowledge! 

A student sharing thoughts, ideas, and beliefs!

mmm this sounds yummy, lets open up this can shall we, and explore beyond the same old same old and not just toss around the dead buddha fish...

Now before reading this, give yourself the time and space to let in each if it opens up something, don't go on to the other, perhaps days apart, perhaps months....just allow for the space and time so to say.......

1.  God = Love, are just words, they mean nothing on their own, yada yada blah blah, same old same old right...... but in fact up to this point of following this sentence and in this moment of reading right now your in a frame work process of extracting meaning from what appears to be out there, out there in relation to a believed "in somewhere else", a you if you will, a awareness perhaps, could be said to be in a so called container refereed to as a body.  But again this to is one step removed from the factness of no outside or inside ever being true to begin with. 

 

 

 

2.  Nothing = Everything  Another yada yada blah blah....  or is it....  Is there a "everything" or a "nothing", like a object, you know a object, a thing, a something, a object right, something that has innate value on its own, with no need of a mind or a observer of it, that has quality emanating its itness without a need for someone to derive what that "definition come from the object" is.  Right...

But, but but wait its the so called person giving rise to the definition of the so called object which determines "the object", right!  Objects have no innate isness or emanating definition of their own accord....

hmmm.... perhaps its neither...... and before you wonder an alternative, resist the temptation and sit in the uknown long enough (COULD BE FOREVER, but its worth it right.....) to just maybe understand nothing=everything, love, self understanding.

 

 

3./4...5@ You are God, You are imagining everything, You are me...... 

You? 

      What are you?

  What is the definition of a "you"?  Have .... you?!?!?  thought about this?

         Now that you've?!? thought about what the definition of what a "you" is, do you??! fit that? 

 Did ?!you?? verify this with everyone?

   Did you? prove it?

                         Did others prove it......

   Ok is it true now? 

So, what are you????

 

 

...666... Only one Consciousness

Not two?  Not 3?  How about 4 or more......  Why not none?

 

<3 <3 <3.  Love is the answer!

 

The answer to what?  To a question.......?  A question about Life?  A question coming from a belief that already believes theres a problem that needs to be solved, thats out of order in some way, or not in a alignment with how things are supposed to be or should be??????

Look at this belief, is it true.........what says things are out of order, not right, not as good as they could be, that need to be fixed.  Is it true?  Or is it just a passing moment, a passing thought, a passing feeling, a passing thought/feeling/belief..... a passing passing passing passing passing passing passing passing passing passing passing passing...... and when its finally passed ............................................................is...................................................................................................................................................................................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...............................................................................there

 

 

 

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