Overcome existential fear?

[electroBeam]

So decided to try sleeping by crossing ma legs and meditating.

Just saw some things that induced lots of fear.

Became conscious that the entire physical universe is a thought as expected.

So there are helicopters that always fly around at night because I live near an airforce base... became conscious that this was an entire thought story, and the only real thing going on is the sound. And the mind is making up the rest.

Became conscious that sleep was imaginary

This is where fear started occuring. 

Just as an experiment to see how false the physical world is, decided to try and replace the thought story of helicopters flying around with a story of helicopter aliens abducting people.

Started actually hallucinating that this was actually happening. Literally started hearing people screaming and started seeing flashing lights coming from the window. Started hallucinating that I got up from my room and exited the house and saw alien helicopters abducting people. Existential fear of being abducted was very real, because it was a hallucination.

It was deliriant. The only reason why I knew it was a hallucination was because it was different to the physical universe... but thats the thing, this literally was AS real as the physical universe. And thats why it was scary. It could have easily have been as real as the physical universe, and it could have changed the world as I knew it. No doubt in my mind I came close to permanently living in an alternative dimension for real.

Next fear:

As the physical universe faded, and as sleep faded, as the mind entered deep sleep, the entire universe went to a void. A massive void. Much bigger than a typical zen void. I felt like I was going to a place, completely foreign, and would never ever come back to physical reality. The I was dying rapidly. 

Again its super scary because all of maya, rven beyond the physical, seems to dissolve, and there's a strong existential fear of not knowing if you will come back.

As that happened I pulled back into this dream. And went into my bed.

 

I don't think these experiences are excuses to not do the practices. I'm sure you guys go through this on psychedelics. How to overcome such fears?

Edited April 13, 2020 by electroBeam

[Zanoni]

Usually my existential fear is triggered by anything monetary related and the ego crashes and submerges in complete hopelessness. Many intense involuntary dives into fear can bring the light into dark corners of the mind and transmute if one consciously intended to do so. It could be of help in the long term if one can handle it. I do not do psychedelics and never had such experience. Would like to hear someone address this. My mind is warped by the story, do you experience this often?

[Nahm]

 

On 4/13/2020 at 10:49 AM, electroBeam said:

Existential fear of being abducted was very real, because it was a hallucination.

The experience is created by resisting feeling, believing the thoughts, and labeling feeling (“fear”).  

On 4/13/2020 at 10:49 AM, electroBeam said:

As the physical universe faded, and as sleep faded, as the mind entered deep sleep, the entire universe went to a void. A massive void. Much bigger than a typical zen void. I felt like I was going to a place, completely foreign, and would never ever come back to physical reality. The I was dying rapidly. 

The mind arises of ‘deep sleep’, and thus could not ‘enter’ deep sleep, same for the universe. The experience is created by resisting feeling, believing the thought of a ‘you’ which ‘comes back to physical reality’. You are that which veils itself (void) becoming physical reality. It might be helpful to remember that you have never actually seen your face, and to put a couple mirrors in front of each other instead. 

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Again its super scary because all of maya, rven beyond the physical, seems to dissolve, and there's a strong existential fear of not knowing if you will come back.

You don’t ’go there’ & ‘come back’. Imagine clay which becomes an experience, and then believes the experience could be lost. Very impressive clay. Well done. 

The mind may be trying to reconcile the ‘twoness’ of the situation with a pinch of ‘real’ or ‘hallucination’ rumination. Thought can not grasp it’s root, anymore than a drop atop the fountain could ‘sprinkle it’s way’ into understanding the water in the hose. A drop can only know the pipeline, within itself, but the pipeline is flowing with not knowing. You’re likely much more of a creator than you’re noticing. Close the ‘gap’, the ‘void’, with love, in all directions. 

[zeroISinfinity]

Love in all directions. It's ME. 

? LAVENDER FIELDS?

Fields Unified Love in all directions. 

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️GOD❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Want that book asap. 

Hope it will not be ? pls no. 

[zeroISinfinity]

Everything is my  true face. ?

Love is everything and my face is THAT. 

My wrist hurts from flipping hand all day long to discover LOVE. ☺️

Edited April 14, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[Nahm]

Tried that one, but felt like I was rating the exercise.

[zeroISinfinity]

1 minute ago, Nahm said:

Tried that one, but felt like I was rating the exercise.

??????????????

I can't do it anymore, can't lay basketball anymore. He needs to pay my medical bills now. 

 

[zeroISinfinity]

I am so sorry @VeganAwake I love you I really do. Just couldn't miss the joke.

Ahahaahahahaahahahahahaah

Because that's what IT is, Infinite Humour. 

Edited April 14, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[zeroISinfinity]

@electroBeam There is no fear possible. Because you are Reality itself and Reality is Infinite Love. 

That's what THIS(YOU) actually is. 

(don't mistake it with solipsism someone attacked me for that). 

Being=Soul 

Go discover it's true all emboding all embracive all loving infinite nature. 

Flip your hands. ☺️

Edited April 14, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[zeroISinfinity]

Want that book with ? lavenderman's explanations. Hope he is writting with pants on. 

Because you are such Lover that gives everything of itself for IT. Infinitelly Selfless and Loving. 

[traveler]

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

Tried that one, but felt like I was rating the exercise.

Bruh ?

[mandyjw]

10 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Everything is my  true face. ?

Love is everything and my face is THAT. 

Everything I've learned about spirituality and enlightenment makes "your face" jokes even more funny. 

@electroBeam Whatever you focus on you'll get more of, you create your reality, so the further you get into dissolving "reality", the more intentional you want to get about self love, self care and creating the life and living the experiences you want. You need to connect with a powerful reason to work through fear, you need to reach high for the love that is the fear, only veiled. You can't look at fear, name it fear, decide it's unwanted and see it as it really is. 

[zeroISinfinity]

@mandyjw ❤️

@Faceless would be so proud of us.

He is like. ?

[Leo Gura]

On 4/13/2020 at 7:49 AM, electroBeam said:

Next fear:

As the physical universe faded, and as sleep faded, as the mind entered deep sleep, the entire universe went to a void. A massive void. Much bigger than a typical zen void. I felt like I was going to a place, completely foreign, and would never ever come back to physical reality. The I was dying rapidly. 

Again its super scary because all of maya, rven beyond the physical, seems to dissolve, and there's a strong existential fear of not knowing if you will come back.

As that happened I pulled back into this dream. And went into my bed.

Yes, that's happened to me.

It's scary. No way around it.

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I don't think these experiences are excuses to not do the practices. I'm sure you guys go through this on psychedelics. How to overcome such fears?

All fear is overcome with love.

Your love must be stronger than your fear.

It's okay if you don't fully surrender in one attempt. It may take hundreds of attempts.

[diamondpenguin]

10 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Everything is my  true face. ?

Love is everything and my face is THAT. 

My wrist hurts from flipping hand all day long to discover LOVE. ☺️

What exercise do you do with your hand to discover love?

[zeroISinfinity]

Palm flipping exercise (Liberation Unleashed) TM

I do get sneaky way of do nothing by observing hand but this blows my mind and hurst my wrist. 

there is no self and since there is no self ➡️ determinism. 

All awakenings and conclusions based on logic of egoic mind which is that self lol

Edited April 15, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[electroBeam]

Talking about mirror exercises, look what i found: 

 

Edited April 15, 2020 by electroBeam