Elliot Hulse Regression

[March]

Honestly, screw the teacher. Seperate the teaching from the teacher. For me personally, Elliott's videos 5-6 years ago helped me alot. His videos on posture and how they affect the mind. Imo study and work on that, it will honestly teach you so much. But keep it at that: a certain aspect of their work will help, you really got a lot from them, and you're grateful for that.

Same goes for Actualized.org, lot of debate about distinctions he makes in spirituality, and recent year or so videos being woo woo. Honestly, most people are not even at that stage yet (if they are then they wouldn't need even learning from Leo because they know themselves and can just start their own school). Just focus on mastering the old videos. Like that video 6 years ago on Mastery he made, I bet a lot of people watching and debating on whether his new videos are true or not are not even seriously mastering anything. 

Like Leo said above, Elliott is burning through blue, he is experimenting. I know that Leo and Peter Ralston have some disagreements on spirituality too, not saying things about who is true, but he is also experimenting.

Point here is is that take what works for you and leave DON'T FOLLOW ANYONE (but you can still be eternally grateful for the few teachings that changed your life - if you worked on them).

Edited August 23, 2020 by March

[meow_meow]

9 hours ago, March said:

Honestly, screw the teacher. Seperate the teaching from the teacher. For me personally, Elliott's videos 5-6 years ago helped me alot. His videos on posture and how they affect the mind. Imo study and work on that, it will honestly teach you so much. But keep it at that: a certain aspect of their work will help, you really got a lot from them, and you're grateful for that.

Yes, I agree with the above. His old videos (5 - 7 years old) were the first ones that I encountered, they were the intro to my journey of self actualizing.
I was in a really bad 'place' back then.

Even tho I also disagree with his point of view and most of his teachings these days, it does not mean that they are Wrong or Right.
They might not be suitable for YOU today or at this point in life, but that does not mean that they won't be usefull or Right for others.
Some of them are exactly opposite of what Leo teaches us, which might explain why people on this forum view Hulse as shit these days.

Stop projecting.

[Dany Balan]

@EntheogenTruthSeeker He has actually evolved! His newest videos uploaded in the last year are pure gold!!! Stage green is not better than blue!

Each stage builds up on the previous ones! Going green when you have not mastered,purple,red,blue and orange creates toxic human beings!

What you call toxic masculinity is what the world needs the most in those time of male pussyfication! He has evolved tremendously because he now understands HOW CRUCIAL fully embodying the stages of red,blue and orange are! When you are at green but you haven't embodied the lower stages is simply the most DESFUNCTIONAL way of living! 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Dany Balan said:

When you are at green but you haven't embodied the lower stages is simply the most DESFUNCTIONAL way of living!

Not as dysfunctional as being stuck in Blue.

[TrustTheProcess]

@Dany Balan pot smoking hippie socialists are far less problematic than people who don't think women should vote

[Lyubov]

I think he realized he can make more cash selling manly man retreats and the guys that tend to line up most for these are women hating red pillers 

 cringy

Edited August 24, 2020 by Lyubov

[sidaz10]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Not as dysfunctional as being stuck in Blue.

why?

[Carl-Richard]

6 hours ago, sidaz10 said:

why?

Being a hippie atleast stops you from being an ethnocentric nationalist.

[Moon]

18 hours ago, Dany Balan said:

What you call toxic masculinity is what the world needs the most in those time of male pussyfication! He has evolved tremendously because he now understands HOW CRUCIAL fully embodying the stages of red,blue and orange are! When you are at green but you haven't embodied the lower stages is simply the most DESFUNCTIONAL way of living! 

hahaha funny 

only if you're living in a stage red/blue society could it be a big problem, where you're an easy target for violence 

but in western society, is being a SJW or dogmatically politically correct so serious? who cares lmao

 

[Recursoinominado]

8 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I think he realized he can make more cash selling manly man retreats and the guys that tend to line up most for these are women hating red pillers 

 cringy

To be fair, the most cringe thing I saw in this was your extremely judgmental opinion about it.

Actually, spaces that allow men to bond and express their primal nature, always been and will forever be needed. Most man nowadays lack masculine roles in their lives and they grow up without experiencing that kind of energy, this creates a hole in their consciousness which is usually filled by the mothers (or women's) opinion of men and that is always embedded with self biases. Source: book called Iron John by Robert Bly.

You can't just skip to green, at best, you will be incomplete and full of judgment against masculine energy, not a healthy green. To be whole, you have to love all your parts, including this masculine aggressive energy which should be acknowledged in order to br directed to a healthy path.

 

[Carl-Richard]

6 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

To be fair, the most cringe thing I saw in this was your extremely judgmental opinion about it.

Actually, spaces that allow men to bond and express their primal nature, always been and will forever be needed. Most man nowadays lack masculine roles in their lives and they grow up without experiencing that kind of energy, this creates a hole in their consciousness which is usually filled by the mothers (or women's) opinion of men and that is always embedded with self biases. Source: book called Iron John by Robert Bly.

You can't just skip to green, at best, you will be incomplete and full of judgment against masculine energy, not a healthy green. To be whole, you have to love all your parts, including this masculine aggressive energy which should be acknowledged in order to br directed to a healthy path.

 

There is a nuance there that we can point out. Integrating blue/red in a healthy way isn't necessarily the same as reacting to and closing yourself off to green, which is often the danger with these types of red pill movements, but of course they do serve their function. It's better to unite the otherwise unruly and repressed masculinity under a blue framework and a community like the one Elliot is providing rather than leaving it unaddressed.

[Recursoinominado]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

 but of course they do serve their function. 

They absolutely do. Men that gravitate towards that are lost and broken, society does NOT do a good job transforming boys into men.

Teach men how to fight, be assertive, create and respect boundaries,be disciplined, be resilient, act in honorable ways, act in the service of others but also teach them how to love, how to express affection, how to compliment someone, how to dance, how to sing etc.

Not one or the other, but BOTH.

I see a lot of stage green men that are spineless, overly docile and passive. Yeah, they have compassion but this came from a place of weakness, not strength. It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war. If aggression is not an option for you, your peacefulness is meaningless, is just your survival strategy.

Take what is good from it and leave what is limiting. Learn from everyone. 

[SriSriJustinBieber]

There are no regressions in life, one can only progress into becoming more of what one truly is. Regression is simply an appearance, simply an optical illusion.

[Carl-Richard]

5 minutes ago, SriSriJustinBieber said:

There are no regressions in life, one can only progress into becoming more of what one truly is. Regression is simply an appearance, simply an optical illusion.

Relative/absolute fallacy: conflating the relative domain with the absolute domain.

[Godhead]

 

12 hours ago, Lyubov said:

 cringy

Looks fun tbh

22 hours ago, Dany Balan said:

What you call toxic masculinity is what the world needs the most in those time of male pussyfication!

What exactly do you mean by "male pussyfication"?

Who's stopping anyone from being 'manly'? You can still work out, be strong, independent, work hard for your goals and do pretty much all the 'manly' things you want to. Only thing is that society doesn't want you to be is ignorant.

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by Godhead

[Aspiraling Wizard]

On 4/5/2020 at 6:43 AM, Brivido said:

He's a smart guy. I just don't understand how he can't smell his own shit. In my opinion, he's judging "slut" girls because he's been married with the same woman since he was very young. He has never experienced sexual promiscuity, and deep down that's what he wants. It's the same story of the experiment that has been done with homophobic people getting aroused watching gay porn. Classic example of projection.

It's easy to smell the shit of others. Not so easy to smell your own and if you do, you'll probably throw a blanket over it.

[Aspiraling Wizard]

20 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I think he realized he can make more cash selling manly man retreats and the guys that tend to line up most for these are women hating red pillers 

 cringy

Man, you wanna talk about burning karma?!?!?! HeheheheheheHEEEEEE!!!! Shot in 4K too! At least these Greek GODS are less likely to shoot up schools.

[Aspiraling Wizard]

11 hours ago, Recursoinominado said:

They absolutely do. Men that gravitate towards that are lost and broken, society does NOT do a good job transforming boys into men.

Teach men how to fight, be assertive, create and respect boundaries,be disciplined, be resilient, act in honorable ways, act in the service of others but also teach them how to love, how to express affection, how to compliment someone, how to dance, how to sing etc.

Not one or the other, but BOTH.

I see a lot of stage green men that are spineless, overly docile and passive. Yeah, they have compassion but this came from a place of weakness, not strength. It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war. If aggression is not an option for you, your peacefulness is meaningless, is just your survival strategy.

Take what is good from it and leave what is limiting. Learn from everyone. 

The "peacefulness is meaningless" part isn't completely true. Ghandi couldn't fight and look at what he did. It is MOSTLY true though. You have to get to the point where you genuinely don't care whether or not you die and this is true whether you're Bruce Lee or Ghandi so to speak.

[Aspiraling Wizard]

On 8/23/2020 at 11:58 AM, Dany Balan said:

@EntheogenTruthSeeker He has actually evolved! His newest videos uploaded in the last year are pure gold!!! Stage green is not better than blue!

Each stage builds up on the previous ones! Going green when you have not mastered,purple,red,blue and orange creates toxic human beings!

What you call toxic masculinity is what the world needs the most in those time of male pussyfication! He has evolved tremendously because he now understands HOW CRUCIAL fully embodying the stages of red,blue and orange are! When you are at green but you haven't embodied the lower stages is simply the most DESFUNCTIONAL way of living! 

Yeeeaaahhhh, Elliot is NOT thinking about what he's doing in terms of Spiral Dynamics. Careful with that projection.

[Aspiraling Wizard]

12 hours ago, Moon said:

hahaha funny 

only if you're living in a stage red/blue society could it be a big problem, where you're an easy target for violence 

but in western society, is being a SJW or dogmatically politically correct so serious? who cares lmao

 

Plenty of violence happens in western society on a daily basis....in fact it's peaking now more than it has in quite awhile.