New world after Coronavirus

[Chives99]

This Virus is testing us as a species and our ways of thinking and survival strategies. Capitalism in the west has shown its weakness and expiry date with the shrinking of the middle class and the growth of the rich poor divide creating majour problems. Capitalism has  kept on surviving up until now because no majour threat has exposed its limitations with its problems only increasing slowly. In the middle east and other developing countries still stuck in stage blue and red, they are being forced by the virus to drop their ideological squabbles and work together as their ideas will be of no use when they've been wiped out.

 

China and North Korea are obviously lying about the true impact of the virus on their countries. Their consciousness level is so low that they would rather have a greater virus impact than loose their power and social standing in the world ; the cant stand  it  if they're seen to be as a country that cant handle a disease. North Korea has such a poor health system and people have poor diets due to the government having little interest in social welfare and an obsession with militarism, therefore it will likely have devastating consequences on the country when all is cared about is nukes. This will be a wakeup call for the country but, i imagine Kim jon un will take is ideologies to the grave and it'll be for after he dies for change to occur.

 

This virus levels out the playing field with survival competition, it doesnt discriminate, if your rich or poor, old or young , a different race etc you have just as much of a chance of catching it and it seems to be killing people of all ages as well although,younger people do have  a higher survival chance.

Across the world majour businesses and industries that could never imagine seeing themselves fall are going into administration in just a couple of weeks, over a million people in the UK have signed up for state benefits with everyone else on government redundancy schemes or for the self employed. Landlords are receiving no rent as their renters have no money, although their own mortgages have been frozen.

This event is going to create a massive paradigm shift as its been revealed how fragile our economy is and how much we depend on one another in society. This is all pretty ironic in the UK because, a week before lockdown the chancellor was announcing massive spending plans despite it being completely against the parties values and vaguely informed how it would be paid for and the extent it would be distributed. Thats all gone out the window now, the conservatives made massive cuts to the national health service and public services and now we've been caught out, without the infrastructure to cope.

Its going to be lower classes that will bring about change after this pandemics end like in many cases in history. The homeless themselves could never rise up as they're not centralised, have mental problems mostly and dont have wide enough support, so they will never be able to help themselves. The working classes and help from the middle class will drive change. The poll tax riots in 1990 in England revealed this, all across the country refusal to pay was high and reached this non payment for te tax reached 50% in some areas, with bailiffs that tried to repossess were met by angry mobs. The courts were clogged up and couldn't process the cases. This civil disobedience and protests forced the PM to resign and ended the tax.

I dont see homelessness being tackled after this as the gov are only putting them in accommodation now as otherwise they'll spread the disease like rats and they'll be back on the streets afterwards, although they're putting pressure on the gov with their incessant squatting of empty buildings. The other lower classes and some people from the higher classes as well will be in financial ruin after this, there is no way governments can not cater to them after the virus as the crime wave and riots from this will destroy the country, Italy is already seeing organised looting of shops as their savings run out. This will causes a massive value shift in our country as selfish individualism and endless profit seeking has left us all vulnerable as it only works when we have good conditions.

China has already announced they'll not kill wild animals and cats and dogs as this as been established to be a key source of this outbreak and other outbreaks in the past, this event has radically change their culture as its always been a big part of it. The west will see a majour shift towards green with many orange businesses wiped out by this pandemic.

[Preety_India]

I don't agree with this. This virus is not the first (nor the last) thing that has rattled humanity to think about its survival, wars, famine, epidemics have happened much worse in history and yet we still had dysfunctional governments, individualism, capitalism, elite etc, this will never end, no virus can end it, much of the cash flow is run by government and corporations and the elite. The poor classes and the middle classes are merely slaves to the government. Elections are based on choosing the lesser of two Evils. 

All that I see that's going to happen is the government in major countries announcing stimulus packages for public health and safety, allocating more equipment to hospitals and refurbishing the emergency health department that deals with global epidemics and then later on politicians politicizing it and bragging about it. 

The only silver lining here is if less people die and some hope for the future in regard to preventing such outbreaks in the future in terms of immunization and safety standards. 

Economy is hit now. But it recovers. Everything goes back to normal. 

Corporations and elite profit from capitalism. They'll never let it die. 

And middle class. All they can do is vote. But their vote doesn't count much when most leaders are puppets of corporations and organizations. 

The above situation will continue as long as the following three exist 

Government 

Money 

Elite 

 

Government is a false illusion. Government is meant for governing people. But it always does the opposite. It controls people... In every country. No exception. 

 

Having complete autonomy independent of the government is the key. No dependency on the government at all. But this is extremely difficult but not entirely impossible. 

The only way I see all the bad stuff ending is if people collectively boycott and refuse to cooperate the government and create their own viable systems. But this will need massive responsibility and moral control.. 

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by Preety_India

[Free Mind]

8 hours ago, Chives99 said:

The west will see a majour shift towards green with many orange businesses wiped out by this pandemic.

lolno. Big businesses and small businesses will continue doing exactly wtf it’s been doing.

[Chives99]

@Free Mind many businesses will be wiped by this, the pain will be a disincentive to this way of being as we see how dependent we are on one another

[abundance]

On 4/3/2020 at 9:45 PM, Preety_India said:

I don't agree with this. This virus is not the first (nor the last) thing that has rattled humanity to think about its survival, wars, famine, epidemics have happened much worse in history and yet we still had dysfunctional governments, individualism, capitalism, elite etc, this will never end, no virus can end it, much of the cash flow is run by government and corporations and the elite. The poor classes and the middle classes are merely slaves to the government. Elections are based on choosing the lesser of two Evils. 

All that I see that's going to happen is the government in major countries announcing stimulus packages for public health and safety, allocating more equipment to hospitals and refurbishing the emergency health department that deals with global epidemics and then later on politicians politicizing it and bragging about it. 

The only silver lining here is if less people die and some hope for the future in regard to preventing such outbreaks in the future in terms of immunization and safety standards. 

Economy is hit now. But it recovers. Everything goes back to normal. 

Corporations and elite profit from capitalism. They'll never let it die. 

And middle class. All they can do is vote. But their vote doesn't count much when most leaders are puppets of corporations and organizations. 

The above situation will continue as long as the following three exist 

Government 

Money 

Elite 

 

Government is a false illusion. Government is meant for governing people. But it always does the opposite. It controls people... In every country. No exception. 

 

Having complete autonomy independent of the government is the key. No dependency on the government at all. But this is extremely difficult but not entirely impossible. 

The only way I see all the bad stuff ending is if people collectively boycott and refuse to cooperate the government and create their own viable systems. But this will need massive responsibility and moral control.. 

 

 

I don't think the problem is necessarily government. Its also the unconscious masses who vote for unconscious government officials. As we rise in consciousness so will our government. Even government in its current forms has positive aspects. Without some governmental regulations all the corruption you mentioned above would be exacerbated. The problem isn't government, it is the corruption and collusion we've allowed to penetrate it.

Edited April 6, 2020 by abundance