female corner

[remember]

this is an invitation for a shared womens corner.

@Preety_India @Keyhole @mandyjw @Zweistein feel free to add females you encountered and want to invite. (didn’t invite female moderation because its about empowerment for ourselves) 

this is something i wanted to do for some time now, absurd as it is i never did it, maybe then the time was not ripe. maybe it still isn’t, although i see in your journals gathered lemons and apples and glittery recommendations on how to eat cucumber....the best way is chopped....

recently i‘m getting more and more sick of toxic masculinity in the forum and as girls with attitude get rare, assuming especially because of that i was wondering if there is not a possibility to stand up against these gang ups by somehow founding our own club. i‘m getting heads on into these fights recently and have the feeling its getting pretty raw sometimes. maybe i should not at all, but it also feels like the forum gets so much more toxic recently and i don’t want to close my eyes anymore. we all have different coping mechanisms and our own problems - but  this fight mode corner we are ultimately pushed into by male toxic behavior, i‘d somehow like to share this corner instead of each of us only standing on their own.

this corner is also throw up zone, if you really have to - do it here so someone can support you. maybe you will not need it right now, but eventually it will happen again.

 

 

Edited March 22, 2020 by remember

[Preety_India]

 

Toxic masculinity is on the rise all over the world. This attitude of the toxic masculine believes that a woman needs approval from the male gender in order to survive in this world. That their femininity only depends on how men see it. 

And if she ever fights the brazen authority of the male, she is allegedly just actively seeking to be a victim. 

There is a lot of propaganda in the world right now to make a woman look bad if she doesn't conform to male standards of submissive behavior. More and more women are leaving abusive relationships and this is seen as a threat by the toxic masculinity community. 

Men are encouraged, not to embrace the Feminine inside of them, they are encouraged to become aggressive, in such communities violence towards women is condoned, rape is condoned, in the toxic man's mind women are obligated to offer sex against their wish and women who do not meet a man's sexual needs are categorized as "blue haired lesbian", they're targeted, bullied, harassed and condemned so their voices get silenced, it's a propoganda to destroy the Feminine nature of a woman and turn her into a sex slave to feed the toxic masculine beast. In his eyes, she is only for his consumption and gratification. 

There is intense objectification of women even on this forum and in the world. 

Toxic mindset men are flocking the internet in large numbers to destroy the goodness in a woman. To suppress her female instincts. To reduce her to a cucumber. 

If there is an intelligent strong woman, she is berated, hated, targeted because she is a threat to the toxic male masculinity, she dare not change the status quo. 

And then these same men lose women every day and turn incels and blame women in return for their lack of ability to understand embrace and integrate the Feminine in them. 

They hate a woman because they can't get a woman. But they don't want to shed their bias. They don't want to look inside and see where they missed the woman, where they broke her heart, where they disappointed her. Their own actions turn women away from them. Their hate of a woman's nature makes the woman retreat to her own femininity in order to cope with the male assault on the female conscience. 

They use tactics of Gaslighting and character assassination in order to further their agenda to stop a woman from blossoming into her full self, because their greed makes them believe that they will not get sex, they will not get women. But they forget that women are not objects of pleasure as the porn industry would have them believe, that women are emotional and women are human beings who need Nurture and care and acceptance. Who don't need shaming but understanding and empathy and love. The greed for sex destroys whatever a woman can offer a man. In his greed, he loses whatever love he could have received from a woman by suppressing and objectifying her. His inability to offer love is the sole reason of his own suffering. 

Toxic masculinity achieves nothing but the destruction of the woman and the destruction of love and its replacement with vacuous pleasure and hollow morals and degeneracy. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Preety_India]

 

In short toxic masculinity is nothing but chimpery of the male ego. 

 

 

[remember]

@Preety_India this is a coffee flower 

 

i can’t add anything else, its coffee power.

Edited March 22, 2020 by remember

[mandyjw]

I very much am trying to put in to practice and know without knowing that there is no assertion, and that I am responsible for how I feel. However that doesn't mean that I'm blind and it does mean I came here to see contrast to guide me to the direction I'm meant to go. For me it's easier to see and forgive what I see on the forum, and less so in my own actual life. That's where I get angry and I have a more challenging time flipping it around to caring about how I feel in the moment and focusing on what I want. Text on a screen is much further removed from whats right in my face. It feels like the ultimate submission, but I'm only submitting to my illusory self. Do you see how tricky it is to blame a man and to identify as a woman and create another to keep this suffering loop playing? 

So what is it that we want? When you see the photo of headless body of a woman posted in a thread as the assumed epitome of beauty, what does that cause us to want? How does it make us feel to see that? Who is responsible for that feeling? Won't blaming the poster, calling them out and using shame as a tactic, which is a form of masculine punishment itself, cause a further rift between us when that is the very thing we want to heal?    

I want to know my own worth and feel how loved I am without having to have anyone else respect or confirm it for me. I'm not waiting for anyone to change before I allow myself that, which is my power and birthright. 

 

Edited March 22, 2020 by mandyjw

[mandyjw]

My greatest wish is for the men and everyone on this forum to awaken, and therefore awaken to our shared connection and I know all my concerns, fears and anger will disappear. In fact all my concerns, fears and anger are what's keeping me from having that connection that's available in my own experience, right now. 

Because most of the members of the forum (and mostly male) here desire to awaken, I see them as more evolved than most. The contrast between the people I feel so honored to interact with here and in my daily life make it difficult for me to not truly appreciate this. I can overlook some unconscious behavior because I know that deep down they want the very thing that will transcend all that. I also know that sometimes progress is not linear, or doesn't feel linear to us. I try not to let some of my own disappointments with behavior and speech here get in the way of the real goal for all of here, Love. If it doesn't feel good to focus on it, then it is not what you came here for and it's not leading you to what you truly want and the change you truly want to see. 

 

[remember]

@mandyjw mhh yes i understand, also your critique points. although you realize that you give yourself not the space to escape to anywhere because you still take the responsibility they deny. i‘m giving up on that, most of them are grown ups. they are not babies anymore - although i respect your view. somehow i believe these guys asking for someone to set a limit for them - that’s why they came here in the first place. if we don’t react to these posts with clear words and limitation they will never understand where the limits are - like three years old children testing out how far they can go - who would want to play mommy for them? but someone has to give signs or they will still be hanging around in ten years from now.

Edited March 22, 2020 by remember

[mandyjw]

@remember Yes, I agree with that. Just be very conscious of what place within yourself those are coming from because the results will follow. A rebuke made consciously out of love (love is felt by the person making it) is perfect love, but a rebuke made out of reaction with breed more of the same behavior it seeks to control, until alignment is found with love and one's words and intentions. 

[mandyjw]

And we're all little kids here. Nothing serious is going on here at all. Paradoxically true maturity is waking up to that. That's why the dogma of "taking this work seriously" breeds some ridiculous behavior until the duality of serious and foolishness collapses. 

[remember]

@mandyjw it all depends on what you can still perceive as not serious. actually i could have reacted with the same „humor“ with which they show their true faces. although i would then have really played into that theme of experiment went wrong they are trying to enforce on the whole forum - just because it did for them. should i take that not as serious? i could take it with humor though. having no expectations at all would really mean giving up on them, which they already did for themselves. (not to mention that they miss healthy masculinity the most which is why yes a healthy masculine approach would be the best for them)

let’s not make this a thread about that one incident though. its about a general observation what is happening repeatedly in different situations.

Edited March 22, 2020 by remember

[remember]

i ask male to stay out and will ask to remove uninvited content.

@billiesimon i ask of you to either respect that and remove this post in which you actually intrude in to a conversation asking of us to end something which was not started by us. which is also not of your concern or i will ask a moderator to do so. this is a collective female journal, it is open to read but we try to discuss our problems here and find an adequate solution - no one asks you to read this its your choice. if you would like to ask the same question to male forum users and actually not care onesidedly you would be welcome. thank you.

this is not against you personally.

Edited March 22, 2020 by remember

[remember]

@Serotoninluv @cetus56 @Anna1 @Inliytened1 @Nahm can you please remove the male content. the journal is about how to actually stop these hate posts.

Edited March 22, 2020 by remember

[Preety_India]

@Johnny5  no offense but that's a cheap move. And insensitive. 

You're the first person to make it to my Ignore List. Welcome. 

 

You're the same guy who publicly said that I should be slapped in the face. That's about how much you care about women. Goodbye. 

 

[Ananta]

53 minutes ago, remember said:

i ask male to stay out and will ask to remove uninvited content.

You can not splinter the community by asking certain ppl on the forum, in this case males, to not post to the thread. It's against forum guidelines.

However, obvious troll posts (like the one you reported) can be removed and dealt with. Report them and it will be evaluated.

[Ananta]

Ps, ...and watch your stereotyping and trash talking of men on this thread. I understand why you started it, but it doesn't make you immune to forum guidelines. Be respectful.

 

[remember]

5 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

Ps, ...and watch your stereotyping and trash talking of men on this thread. I understand why you started it, but it doesn't make you immune to forum guidelines. Be respectful.

35 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

@remember I don't hate this woman  ? :

 

what about them? - the stereotiping is much more coming from another direction. 

yes please remove the troll post.

[Ananta]

@remember I hid the troll post prior to the post above you just made. So, did you bookmark it and then copy it to your post? 

You wanted it removed, it was removed, then you repost it, why? ?‍♂️

You also don't know what happens behind the scenes. When I said, "obvious troll posts (like the one you reported) can be removed and dealt with." The dealt with part means warnings and/or points.

 

[Preety_India]

 

This is one woman I'll always be so proud of you. Her intelligence and bravery is mind blowing. I wish  so many women would have the same courage and steely interior to rise a whole crowd. 

In today's Era, we need more and more women like this. 

She has no tolerance for misogyny and sexism. She is a star. 

 

Edited March 22, 2020 by Preety_India

[Ananta]

1 hour ago, Keyhole said:

Johnny5, you are only allowed ONE account on here.

And, what's the other account name?

[fridjonk]

The Masculine is nothing without the Feminine.  

I find Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez very empowering and a fantastic role model. 

Rosa Parks is also a favorite. 

Edited March 22, 2020 by fridjonk