Stage koral

[FeikevA]

For some reason, all my tier 2 transitions were paired with a very particular personal crisis. Normally I’m highly motivated and disciplined, but during those periods I lost all my motivation. From this I conclude that I transitioned into stage koral around January this year. 

Here is a basic description of stage koral (as I now understand it):

Core value: Self-Love 

Paradigm: loving, I embrace

World view: the world consists of finite perspectives and relations between those finite perspectives

Stage koral starts to emerge when turquoise realizes the following things. Although turquoise perceives itself as a higher self or God incarnated in physical form, it is still very focused on its higher self. And although turquoise really values raising the quality of it’s consciousness, it still doesn’t love itself the way it is now. 

Stage koral wants to know all of reality and fully embrace it as part of itself. It cares about human beings, not because it is “good” to care about human beings, but because it is itself a human being and it takes the interests of all human beings as part of itself. 
This same statement can be made with other part of itself than human being, such as society, family, but also all sentient beings and larger systems. 

Stage koral also understands that impermanence is the only permanent thing in reality, and that love is a verb or a movement that is constantly taking place. Turquoise can be quite static and very focused on enlightenment or God as unbounded, unmanifested ground of being. 

I’m not familiar with many examples of stage koral. I think Teal Swan is a very good embodiment of this stage. If you’re familiar with other examples, I would love to hear that. And I would of course love to hear all your thoughts about this. 

[SamueLSD]

Infinite love is a facet of God, so how would Koral be any more loving than turquoise?

[Thomas_VH]

22 minutes ago, SamueLSD said:

Infinite love is a facet of God, so how would Koral be any more loving than turquoise?

Infinite love is a facet of God, so how would green be any more loving than purple?

Infinite Love being (a facet of) God is true for all stages. IMO, it is simply your (degree of) realization of this which determines your current stage.

58 minutes ago, FeikevA said:

Stage koral wants to know all of reality and fully embrace it as part of itself. It cares about human beings, not because it is “good” to care about human beings, but because it is itself a human being and it takes the interests of all human beings as part of itself. 
This same statement can be made with other part of itself than human being, such as society, family, but also all sentient beings and larger systems.

Isn't all of this true for stage turqoise too, though?

56 minutes ago, FeikevA said:

For some reason, all my tier 2 transitions were paired with a very particular personal crisis.

For me this was true for all transitions, not only my tier 2 one.

[SamueLSD]

3 minutes ago, Thomas_VH said:

Infinite love is a facet of God, so how would green be any more loving than purple?

He was saying Koral is different to turquoise as it has a higher degree of self love. But how is this possible if  turquoise experiences INFINITE love?

So what I'm trying to say is: Koral sounds identical to turquoise. ( I'm probably missing something here, I am still a newbie to this model ) 

[FeikevA]

24 minutes ago, SamueLSD said:

He was saying Koral is different to turquoise as it has a higher degree of self love. But how is this possible if  turquoise experiences INFINITE love?

So what I'm trying to say is: Koral sounds identical to turquoise. ( I'm probably missing something here, I am still a newbie to this model ) 

My pronouns are they/them

And I'm saying that stage Koral sees self-love as its main value, while Turquoise prioritizes raising consciousness. 

[Thomas_VH]

9 minutes ago, SamueLSD said:

He was saying Koral is different to turquoise as it has a higher degree of self love. But how is this possible if  turquoise experiences INFINITE love?

So what I'm trying to say is: Koral sounds identical to turquoise. ( I'm probably missing something here, I am still a newbie to this model ) 

I agree with you that many of the theory I hear about stage koral sounds identical to stage turqoise. I can only assume that koral has an even more integrated, mature realisation of Love, yet this is purely speculation on my part, as I have never experienced this first hand.

[SamueLSD]

1 minute ago, FeikevA said:

My pronouns are they/them

And I'm saying that stage Koral sees self-love as its main value, while Turquoise prioritizes raising consciousness. 

Sorry about that.. and I can sort of see what you are saying now

[FeikevA]

1 hour ago, Thomas_VH said:

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Stage koral wants to know all of reality and fully embrace it as part of itself. It cares about human beings, not because it is “good” to care about human beings, but because it is itself a human being and it takes the interests of all human beings as part of itself. 
This same statement can be made with other part of itself than human being, such as society, family, but also all sentient beings and larger systems. 

Isn't all of this true for stage turqoise too, though?

The subtle difference I perceive is that turquoise is still about manifesting the self for the benefit of existential reality, while koral is about taking all of reality as part of itself. 

I would also like to add that to me it makes a lot of sense that spiral dynamics doesn't end at an "other"-stage, because fundamentally there is no difference between self and other. 

I also think there is a really beautiful symmetry. Orange is most disconnected from spirituality. Green and blue are both into spirituality, but often on a belief basis. Red and yellow aren't that busy with spirituality, but are familiar with it. Purple and turquoise are in touch with the infinite aspects of self, but have some separation between their finite and infinite aspects. In beige and koral, the finite and infinite aspects of self are merged into one functioning whole. 

Edited March 14, 2020 by FeikevA
better formulation

[FeikevA]

And for those interested in practical advice, I found this exercise very helpful: