Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nahm said: Oh wait. We’re not talking about the same thing. Can you copy and paste what you’re referring to so I can see? he removed it after he got made conscious of it. but now he‘s quoting it with the queen video - knowing i remember the fotograf. its not the first time things like these go unaddressed under the radar. Edited March 10, 2020 by remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 @VeganAwake Would you like to post this photo being talked about, and the video you sent me a message about, so I can see what we’re actually talking about here? MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, VeganAwake said: thank you everyone for posting on this thread.... It was great information and here is your reward... ❤ wait for the end lol ❤ this is the video. it was more the text than the fotograf, the combination was pretty raw. sorry @Nahm you seemed to talk about another video. Edited March 10, 2020 by remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 13 hours ago, VeganAwake said: Just him huh? ...but it's okay for everybody else to listen to me... not cool bud... I believe this violates the forums Equal Rights Act of 1974 ERA 1210. I truly love you man maybe I can help you wake up... sounds like you've been struggling... shoot me a private message one day and maybe we can talk about it if your open to it ❤ But if you were enlightened a) there isn't anyone there to wake up b) waking up has no meaning, so isn't he ok the way he is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said: Meditation as technique indeed works don't dismiss it. I do meditate so I'm not dismissing it. And I agree, love is love whether it's through psychedelics, meditation, self-inquiry, killing or torture. 34 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said: There is no need to have a “breakthrough experience” when absolute peace and happiness have been realised. One day people on here will get that experience isn’t awakening, it’s just that- an experience. That's what the people who self realize though sober techniques miss, they stop in their tracks because there is "no need" to explore further. Well, there isn't any need for them to eat or survive anymore, yet they do just that. I'm not saying sober awakenings aren't good or something of that sort. Of course, they are the end goal for many. But I'm sorry to have to say this, again and again, there is more. There is MORE, it's literally infinite. I also agree that psychedelic experiences aren't permanent awakenings, but if you do them enough, you will end up awakening. Most people's lifestyle and survival gets in the way of that though. 34 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said: I think I’m going to listen to the greatest masters of our time And there you've again given away your authority. 34 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said: the fact you keep saying how complicated it all is shows you haven’t grasped the nature of your own being yet. Or you simply haven't gone deep enough? It goes both ways. 34 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said: It’s simply THIS. always here, always now. Agreed. 34 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said: it’s extremely irresponsible to suggest someone under the age of 25 to take drugs That's relative. It's not like we don't agree on all of this, after all, I AM YOU. I AM YOU, and we've all completely gone mad in this dualistic creation. Thinking we're speaking to someone else, when in fact I'm all alone here, talking to myself through all and every creation that ever was. Edited March 10, 2020 by fridjonk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 @LfcCharlie4 i think you wasting energy here. its no different than trying to convience people trying to reach happiness through money, there will be allways more you can get. "hey man.. have you ever experienced a million dollars? so dont speak!", but clearly they seek more, they are not complete, and they will allways seek more, because the ego is never satisfied. if i were you i would not waste so much energy, because we are 7 billion doing this thing, not just this community. just let them be. time will tell everything like it allways does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 Don't try to grasp meaninglesness intellectually peeps (i'm sure a lot of us do that here). This will likely send a very very subtle message to your body to suppress everything. Meaninglesness is actually about total openness. What's actually meant is prior, during, after and through meaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, remember said: it was more the text than the fotograf. Text which was since deleted? Ops...never mind, you already said that. If you or he want to let me know what was said, that’d be great. Otherwise, you seem to be seeing clearly, and God help me for saying this, but, is there compassion for what you’re seeing? MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, remember said: this is the video. Um bud I posted this video to go along with my thread as a joke. Queen is one of my favorite all-time rock bands. I don't really know how you took it but these days we can all find anything to get offended about so if you found it offensive don't take it that way. ❤ “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 @fridjonk you are spot on dude - just for the record. @LfcCharlie4. As always you make great points. That said reality is fundamentally mystical and infinite. Understanding it conceptually is not the same as Being. But i know you know that. I don't know if you have had a mystical experience or not but for those who can without pyschedelics it is rare. I seem to be one of them. But i also fully support Leo's exploration of Consciousness because it will ultimately push humanity forward as i have said before. I could be wrong but i think I've hit the limits of where i can go without pyschedelics. That is why i fully support him. I have directly confirmed everything he has claimed without pyschedelics - other than seeing myself create all the hairs on my hand. Total omniscience. And since i have directly confirmed everything else i have no reason to doubt him further. That may be somewhere only pyschedelics can take you. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nahm said: Text which was since deleted? together with the photography - it said something like: this is my mustache i didn’t know how red it would get - the fotograph was in a manner like what i earlier pointed towards. just because it’s not spoken does not mean it‘s not aggressive. it’s pretty disgusting for a woman. it was about politics and beards the thread. Edited March 10, 2020 by remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, VeganAwake said: Um bud I posted this video to go along with my thread as a joke. Queen is one of my favorite all-time rock bands. I don't really know how you took it but these days we can all find anything to get offended about so if you found it offensive don't take it that way. ❤ But him taking offence doesn't matter. So why all of a sudden does it matter to you that he's taking offence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, remember said: together with the photography - it said something like: this ism y mustache i didn’t know how red it would get - the fotograph was in a manner like what i earlier pointed towards. just because it’s not spoken does not mean it‘s not aggressive. And wasn't that a thread about beards... It was a picture of my mustache the one thing I can grow in the military... Not sure if you had a healthy dose of meds today but I would recommend you keeping your mind out of the gutter... it doesn't seem like a good place for you lol “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, VeganAwake said: And wasn't that a thread about beards... It was a picture of my mustache the one thing I can grow in the military... Not sure if you had a healthy dose of meds today but I would recommend you keeping your mind out of the gutter... it doesn't seem like a good place for you lol Why does it matter if his head is in the gutter or not? You said it wasn't a good place for him, well isn't that you assigning meaning to his situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 @VeganAwake Just post the picture, and the original comment. Easy, simple, honest. MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 Just now, BETGR164128 said: Why does it matter if his head is in the gutter or not? You said it wasn't a good place for him, well isn't that you assigning meaning to his situation? @remember is a woman. Just a heads up. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, VeganAwake said: And wasn't that a thread about beards... It was a picture of my mustache the one thing I can grow in the military... Not sure if you had a healthy dose of meds today but I would recommend you keeping your mind out of the gutter... it doesn't seem like a good place for you lol If there is nobody here and there is just THIS, then who are you talking to when you refer to "you" at the end of your comment? Shouldn't you really be saying "I" , because your true self is THIS, so that is who you are talking to, is it not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 @dvdas I know, but genuinely I've been talking to several people about this, and It's actually worrying how freely drug use is advocated here. I'm literally linking scientific evidence of the danger to our brains and apparently that's just fear? And, exactly, saying 'it always goes deeper' to me just shows a lack of understanding, yes in the human dimension we can always embody deeper, however there is an END to seeking. That end is Absolute peace and happiness. @fridjonk No I didn't stop in my tracks, I had many awakenings and while there was still an inch of seeking I kept going, knowing it wasn't the final answer to which I was after, until seeking literally ended. It was like an explosion, the realization it had always been in front of me, right here, right now, The Self. That was a drop in the wind comment, you are always your own Guru. No, it doesn't the teaching literally is very simple, it's the mind that wants to make it complex. I'm not saying embodiment doesn't take 'time' and work, bit simply put THIS isn't complex, that's the cosmic joke. Yes, it's relatively proven scientifically our brains don't stop developing until we are 25, if you want to go ahead and risk that, then do it, but you shouldn't be recommending this to others if they're under 25. My friend ended up in a mental hospital twice after 2 LSD trips as he kept seeing his dead Father afterward. Nobody wants to speak about the dangers of these drugs when used irresponsibly. @Inliytened1 I am not talking about conceptual understanding but experiential understanding and experiential absolute peace and happiness like I keep saying. What could be conceptual about abiding with absolute peace and happiness? I have no issues with people exploring consciousness, my point is you can fully Self-Realize without the use of Psychedelics, and you don't NEED them to fully awaken, that's all I'm trying to say. If people want to go explore, go do it, as you say reality is infinite, I haven't once denied that. All I'm saying is seeking DOES come to an end, where you have ZERO NEED to seek, as you fully understand the truth of your own being, are absolutely happy and at peace. If you then want to explore other areas such as healing, go for it, my point is you can fully Awaken without drugs. I managed to realize the truth about my own being without them and so have 1000s of others, I'm also saying it can be done with Psyches and they can help. Everyone seems to think I'm anti-psyches, I'm really not lol. I'm just anti giving young people things that could fuck them up later in life. When used in the right setting and dosage they can be great. However deep the awakening is though, we always come back to THIS. 'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira “Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, BETGR164128 said: Why does it matter if his head is in the gutter or not? You said it wasn't a good place for him, well isn't that you assigning meaning to his situation? Choosing things to not matter is also placing meaning. Truth comes prior, during, after and through meaning. Don't try to intellectually grasp that shit. Rejecting things is definitely a very (negative) meaningful endeavour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, BETGR164128 said: Why does it matter if his head is in the gutter or not? You said it wasn't a good place for him, well isn't that you assigning meaning to his situation? No not at all... it has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever. See if nothing matters then it also doesn't matter if I told he or she they should keep their head out of the gutter ? It's complete freedom.. Also whether the advice is taken or not has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever. “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
