Coronavirus and the next Economic Crisis

[LordFall]

I just watched this and a lot of the theories and information seem sound. 

 

 

I'm not one to fear monger but from what we know from spiral dynamics and low consciousness egos in power, this makes perfect sense right? Please watch and share your thoughts, there are a lot of events that mark history and this could be one of the major ones in the 21st century. 

From reading about Disaster Capitalism as recommended by Leo, it wouldn't surprise me if this was an accurate conspiracy theory. 

[Apparition of Jack]

Was the Black Death also an effort to move the world towards a cashless society? 

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Apparition of Jack said:

Was the Black Death also an effort to move the world towards a cashless society? 

The plague didn't happen in an era where you can bio engineer viruses and where a simulation for a theoretical coronavirus called CAPS was run just a month and a half before the first case of COVID-19 happened in China ?. 

You can't make this shit up and obviously no mainstream news organization will ever report on this.

What do we know about Bill Gates? From reading a bit of his back story as also recommended by Leo, he used extremely predatory and unethical practices while building up Microsoft into the giant it is today and amassing his fortune. Who knows what these people are up to, how could any of us know really?

I'd love to hear your thoughts @Leo Gura.

 

Edited March 2, 2020 by LordFall

[Scholar]

7 hours ago, LordFall said:

The plague didn't happen in an era where you can bio engineer viruses and where a simulation for a theoretical coronavirus called CAPS was run just a month and a half before the first case of COVID-19 happened in China ?. 

You can't make this shit up and obviously no mainstream news organization will ever report on this.

What do we know about Bill Gates? From reading a bit of his back story as also recommended by Leo, he used extremely predatory and unethical practices while building up Microsoft into the giant it is today and amassing his fortune. Who knows what these people are up to, how could any of us know really?

I'd love to hear your thoughts @Leo Gura.

 

The simulation was a coronavirus because the people who were doing the simulation knew what was most likely to become the next virus. This is just proof of their competency, not some global conspiracy. Do you really believe someone who plans to infect the world would test it publically a month beforehand so some youtuber can uncover their great conspiracy plan?

 

And sure, Bill Gates was pure orange when he was building Microsoft. People change, the limitations of orange are the very reason why people become green.

 

With these kind of videos you have to ask yourself, at each assertion the person makes:

"Is this true?"

"Is this the actual explanation for this?"

"How does he know this?"

And most importantly, observe whether or not there is emotional attachment to a position before you have even verified the facts.

 

This is a huge red flag "I just look at the facts and my brain is putting all the pieces together". But how is your brain doing so? How does it know whether or not it got the pieces together in the right way?

[remember]

yes they probably planted that virus into a ground hog until it was eaten by a chinese grandpa who believed ground hogs would work better than viagra.

who the ( ) would spin a theory like that?

but maybe we could make this a thread about the most phantastical   theories on corona virus. despite the economic and consciousness fall outs in all countries, no one was prepared for.

Edited March 2, 2020 by remember

[Rilles]

10 hours ago, Apparition of Jack said:

Was the Black Death also an effort to move the world towards a cashless society? 

Theres a theory that the Black Plague was used as a biological weapon by the Mongols. 

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/mongol-siege-caffa-black-plague.html/amp

[pluto]

Observe deeply, these patterns are nothing new, you are just being distracted/distorted by the same patterns in new forms, new shapes and new bodies. Consciousness manifests in all ways, don't fall for the bait. The universe is constantly testing you or you are testing yourself

Focus on Truth, that is all that will set you free from all illusion and disharmony.

[Danioover9000]

8 hours ago, LordFall said:

The plague didn't happen in an era where you can bio engineer viruses and where a simulation for a theoretical coronavirus called CAPS was run just a month and a half before the first case of COVID-19 happened in China ?. 

You can't make this shit up and obviously no mainstream news organization will ever report on this.

What do we know about Bill Gates? From reading a bit of his back story as also recommended by Leo, he used extremely predatory and unethical practices while building up Microsoft into the giant it is today and amassing his fortune. Who knows what these people are up to, how could any of us know really?

I'd love to hear your thoughts @Leo Gura.

 

   All I can say is that the Chinese culture and government brought this onto themselves. From the bio weapons labs, to how they can eat bizzare animals, and the many lies they're telling.

   It's no coincidence that there were two research facilities on bio weapons was 300 meters away from Wu Han and the other several kilometers away, and those facilities were testing on bats in order to isolate the many viruses bats carry. Bio chemical weapons were notorious for not just afflicting artificial pathogens to the enemy population, but for the many controls needed to ensure this shit doesn't infect the people using them. And that chinese doctor got infected with this virus.

   And eating strange animals, bats included, doesn't help the situation! The chinese are also known for their treatment of animals and sometimes eating live animals. All the more likely that eventually a pathogen meant for that particular species could take the jump to now infecting humans.

   Now the Chinese are put in a situation they must save face, so they tell lies. One lie is that "the virus only kills children and elderly and any people unfit, so middle aged and healthy people are ok". Well, the Chinese doctor that had it was 19 and healthy and ended up dead.

   Recently, a Chinese person revealed that people who're infected and not dead yet, but dying, are put in body bags and sent to cremation. This is crazy. This shows one way devilry works at the collective level when it's survival is threatened. 

   

[Annoynymous]

i think corona virus have the potential to cause damage to the world economy but it will not create havoc. So far, 90000 people has been affected and 3000 died. So less than 5% people have died only. I don't think it is a lethal disease. The main reason behind disruption is the role of media. It is creating sensational news,  causing fear in people's mind. This desease is less dangerous than how media picturing it to be. So everyone needs to be more vigilant not to accept falsehood regarding the disease and take necessary precaution.  

[Hansu]

54 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

   All I can say is that the Chinese culture and government brought this onto themselves. From the bio weapons labs, to how they can eat bizzare animals, and the many lies they're telling.

In some prisons inmates are reduced to eating worms, rodents and whatever they get their hands on.

Did they bring this on themselves?

Its very short sighted to criticize a person in third world country for eating "bizarre" animals while you can walk 200 meters and buy 200 grams of cow meat for fraction of your salary

[remember]

actually chinese are pretty intelligent to not only eat one kind of food - for us it seems weird because we are not used to it and i think in some cases like eating wild animal which are in danger of extinction it is really something which i would highly criticize, but at least they are eating it and not just put these animals in their private hunting collection. in some sense the chinese are even smarter than the west. i just want to remind of the bse crisis and outbreaks of divers animal illnesses in industrial farming - which are happening once in a while. masslaughtering animals seems to be ok in these cases and was in most cases successful - but what about humans? the most astonishing is the ignorance politics in many countries.

Edited March 2, 2020 by remember

[Vladz0r]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/28/coronavirus-cancel-travel/
 

That first video is pretty crazy stuff. I know crytpo has been being developed in the background for some years now. Not sure what the game plan is going to be. Not a full domestic travel ban in the US yet, but this info is definitely something to keep in mind.
Really should just buy the survival gear I planned to buy, just in case something goes down.
I think my family is in pretty safe industries for the next few years - school system, big bank, auto industry, so we'll see how we weather the potential storm.

I'd some things to buy off of Amazon/wherever to do some survival repair, but I'm trying not to shill, and I haven't bought these yet.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017GQ7OEA/?coliid=I3BE7LAIK7R2TD&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BLTDD1V/?coliid=I296DP4J8DVKEP&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
(explosive proof gas) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZYSJ16W/?coliid=I1CQQ7RD1ZDAUU&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076DK947N/?coliid=IQGDNA5ROHZ27&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MNV8E0C/?coliid=I35DZKWBXLOB2P&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NPLSZF8/?coliid=I3I9R2YUJVQEGK&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ES5Y1I/?coliid=I1QGNZCI9065US&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL5F14M/?coliid=I24ZCJEA4TNP88&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SD4KMMN/?coliid=INQEYR4PK424A&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006H42TVG/?coliid=I1S7VUQ3HO9LK4&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0712252ZQ/?coliid=I186P4F7AIO7G2&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H1R7M45/?coliid=I297QHIZRNLTX7&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/Brita-Extra-UltraMax-Dispenser-Filter/dp/B015SY3VGM/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=brita&qid=1583161526&sr=8-6

Not sure if these are afiliate links, but that's most of my wishlist ideas.
And then on top of that, make sure to have pots, cleaning equipment, lots of rice, beans, canned foods, boxed food, bulk granola bars. Focus on high calorie foods. I think that investing maybe $600-700 or so will prepare a small family to weather the storm for months at a time, if there are outages. The idea is you keep some portable chargers around for all of your device, get a small and big solar panel, keep lights and laptops charged. Ideally have a newer laptop that can last a whole day, use 4G off of your phone, have media downloaded, maybe get a low power consumption TV (LED TV 32" or so) because you can essentially use it all day with that electric generator thing. Maybe buy 2 of those honestly. Think about a way to rotate and clean clothes. Etc. etc.

Not sure if this is helpful but it's a game plan I came up with a few months ago. I'm near a big city so I think there won't be a huge issue, but people in more rural areas or non-US countries should think about a potential global impact.

Kind of random but I had like this huge sort of mental breakdown a year and a half ago ago after losing my job, and I was pseudo-hallucinating about the biblical plagues, the AI scare, a financial collapse, and a virus epidemic, among other things. I went in this hospital and I felt I was somehow being manipulated via some kind of feedback system based on what we were saying, and the TV content was giving me psychosymptomatic reactions.  I had this idea that it was highly possible that all politics had been fabricated, and that the people on TV didn't actually even exist. I mean if you imagine something like Deepfakes having existed so long ago. For some reason I was having visceral nightmares about how ragdoll physics simulations could be created from humans. I also felt like every step I walked on my treadmill felt like my legs were going through a meat grinder. Certain commercials in the hospital were causing me physical pain to look at, specifically this Little Caesars ad. There was some weird thing with TV show framerates. I was also sleep deprived and while watching Leo videos, I noticed all this really jerky motion in the individual frames where Leo moved his mouth. I have no idea. I kinda wonder if there's any propheticness to any of that or it was just simply being stuck in a cycle of neuroticism.

[remember]

@Vladz0r ok - let‘s not overdo it. don’t get panicky - basic supplies should be ok. it’s not a system break down it’s just a pandemic. 

[Vladz0r]

2 hours ago, remember said:

@Vladz0r ok - let‘s not overdo it. don’t get panicky - basic supplies should be ok. it’s not a system break down it’s just a pandemic. 

Bruh they just confirmed 91 cases.

We gonna dieeeee

 

Well, I got plenty of body fat and multivitamins, so I guess I'll be fine.

Edited March 2, 2020 by Vladz0r

[remember]

@Vladz0r seriously if you get any symptoms get checked at a hospital. i will get a test in two days for example because i have been in contact with an italy returner who had symptoms two weeks ago but couldn’t get a test, as the doctor then was not sufficiently equipped and didn’t know how to test - i‘m having cold symptoms since some days. i don’t want to panic, it does not seem very serious but i also don’t want to stay home for several days - so it’s in some sense only a preventive measurement to test on cases to keep it from spreading i don’t want to stay at home just because of that i also love my friends and family and would not want to infect someone on the streets. so getting tested on it in a laboratory i guess i‘m on the safe side.

Edited March 2, 2020 by remember

[LordFall]

6 hours ago, Vladz0r said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/28/coronavirus-cancel-travel/
 

That first video is pretty crazy stuff. I know crytpo has been being developed in the background for some years now. Not sure what the game plan is going to be. Not a full domestic travel ban in the US yet, but this info is definitely something to keep in mind.
Really should just buy the survival gear I planned to buy, just in case something goes down.
I think my family is in pretty safe industries for the next few years - school system, big bank, auto industry, so we'll see how we weather the potential storm.

I'd some things to buy off of Amazon/wherever to do some survival repair, but I'm trying not to shill, and I haven't bought these yet.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017GQ7OEA/?coliid=I3BE7LAIK7R2TD&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BLTDD1V/?coliid=I296DP4J8DVKEP&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
(explosive proof gas) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZYSJ16W/?coliid=I1CQQ7RD1ZDAUU&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076DK947N/?coliid=IQGDNA5ROHZ27&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MNV8E0C/?coliid=I35DZKWBXLOB2P&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NPLSZF8/?coliid=I3I9R2YUJVQEGK&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ES5Y1I/?coliid=I1QGNZCI9065US&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL5F14M/?coliid=I24ZCJEA4TNP88&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SD4KMMN/?coliid=INQEYR4PK424A&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006H42TVG/?coliid=I1S7VUQ3HO9LK4&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0712252ZQ/?coliid=I186P4F7AIO7G2&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H1R7M45/?coliid=I297QHIZRNLTX7&colid=3AVMN07R30IC3&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/Brita-Extra-UltraMax-Dispenser-Filter/dp/B015SY3VGM/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=brita&qid=1583161526&sr=8-6

Not sure if these are afiliate links, but that's most of my wishlist ideas.
And then on top of that, make sure to have pots, cleaning equipment, lots of rice, beans, canned foods, boxed food, bulk granola bars. Focus on high calorie foods. I think that investing maybe $600-700 or so will prepare a small family to weather the storm for months at a time, if there are outages. The idea is you keep some portable chargers around for all of your device, get a small and big solar panel, keep lights and laptops charged. Ideally have a newer laptop that can last a whole day, use 4G off of your phone, have media downloaded, maybe get a low power consumption TV (LED TV 32" or so) because you can essentially use it all day with that electric generator thing. Maybe buy 2 of those honestly. Think about a way to rotate and clean clothes. Etc. etc.

Not sure if this is helpful but it's a game plan I came up with a few months ago. I'm near a big city so I think there won't be a huge issue, but people in more rural areas or non-US countries should think about a potential global impact.

Kind of random but I had like this huge sort of mental breakdown a year and a half ago ago after losing my job, and I was pseudo-hallucinating about the biblical plagues, the AI scare, a financial collapse, and a virus epidemic, among other things. I went in this hospital and I felt I was somehow being manipulated via some kind of feedback system based on what we were saying, and the TV content was giving me psychosymptomatic reactions.  I had this idea that it was highly possible that all politics had been fabricated, and that the people on TV didn't actually even exist. I mean if you imagine something like Deepfakes having existed so long ago. For some reason I was having visceral nightmares about how ragdoll physics simulations could be created from humans. I also felt like every step I walked on my treadmill felt like my legs were going through a meat grinder. Certain commercials in the hospital were causing me physical pain to look at, specifically this Little Caesars ad. There was some weird thing with TV show framerates. I was also sleep deprived and while watching Leo videos, I noticed all this really jerky motion in the individual frames where Leo moved his mouth. I have no idea. I kinda wonder if there's any propheticness to any of that or it was just simply being stuck in a cycle of neuroticism.

I didn't know how seriously I should take this, that's why I posted it on the highest consciousness social board I know. I'd love to hear Leo's thoughts but I like a lot of what the other commenters had to say. I don't think it's a conspiracy anymore but there is a lot of sketchy stuff going on.

It's my first time experimenting a global event really and so I'm not used to the media concealing information and taking control of the narrative. It's truly fascinating how mass-scale political games are played. 

And yeah, I've had a psychotic break too. It's super interesting. I can relate to a lot of what you said. I think it's a pseudo enlightenment experience with the ego massively corrupting it. Kind of like how Leo describes religious people taking psychedelics and misinterpreting it for a Jesus revelation.

In mine, I thought I was the antichrist and the whole world was trying to kill me. Lasted about two weeks and I had to be put on antipsychotics and be put in an inpatient facility to come down. Still the craziest experience of my life.  

Edited March 2, 2020 by LordFall

[Vladz0r]

17 hours ago, LordFall said:

I didn't know how seriously I should take this, that's why I posted it on the highest consciousness social board I know. I'd love to hear Leo's thoughts but I like a lot of what the other commenters had to say. I don't think it's a conspiracy anymore but there is a lot of sketchy stuff going on.

It's my first time experimenting a global event really and so I'm not used to the media concealing information and taking control of the narrative. It's truly fascinating how mass-scale political games are played. 

And yeah, I've had a psychotic break too. It's super interesting. I can relate to a lot of what you said. I think it's a pseudo enlightenment experience with the ego massively corrupting it. Kind of like how Leo describes religious people taking psychedelics and misinterpreting it for a Jesus revelation.

In mine, I thought I was the antichrist and the whole world was trying to kill me. Lasted about two weeks and I had to be put on antipsychotics and be put in an inpatient facility to come down. Still the craziest experience of my life.  

I mean, I'm not really worried about the actual chance of dying. I'm in the younger age bracket so my chances of fatality as 0.2%. For my parents though it's closer to 2-4%, so 10-20x mine. Some estimates are saying coronavirus could hit 40-70% of the population.
I'm not really concerned with the virus itself or getting it, just more about a potential state of emergency, food shortages or scalping in my area, and government shutdown type of situation. I mean I would hope that our means of production and ways of buying direct from Walmart or Amazon will continue to hold up strong during this whole situation. It could also continue slowly increase in the coming months, booming a bit in the spring/fall due to everyone being out in the good weather, drop off a bit in the summer due to heat and lack of schools being open, and then progressing as the winter months come back, kids go back to school, colder weather promotes weaker immune health, etc. Sure, the coronavirus won't kill the kids who are spreading it, but it's going to be pretty bad for older teachers and adults who have a 20x chance of fatality. More schools are going to continue to close nationwide, so that may curb the spread.

I got like $300 of those supplies I mentioned, mostly so I can at least power my stuff outside in the yard if there's any outages here in the suburbs, and we're stocking up on supplies for stuff we already use, just to avoid scalping. My Chinese friend's parents have been stocking up as well, and I've seen a youtuber or two I subscribe to starting to stock up, though they're in the west coast. I kind of want it to just run its course, whatever that may entail. 

[Parththakkar12]

Sometimes when I see the media covering Coronavirus, I feel like they've run out of ways to scare the masses, and now the best way they have is to create a hyped scare of coronavirus!! I mean wtf is the hype about?!?! Let the researchers do their job and just go on with your life!!

This was my honest reaction. Not a well thought-out point-by-point lined thesis statement!

[Preety_India]

On 3/2/2020 at 5:11 PM, Danioover9000 said:

   All I can say is that the Chinese culture and government brought this onto themselves. From the bio weapons labs, to how they can eat bizzare animals, and the many lies they're telling.

   It's no coincidence that there were two research facilities on bio weapons was 300 meters away from Wu Han and the other several kilometers away, and those facilities were testing on bats in order to isolate the many viruses bats carry. Bio chemical weapons were notorious for not just afflicting artificial pathogens to the enemy population, but for the many controls needed to ensure this shit doesn't infect the people using them. And that chinese doctor got infected with this virus.

   And eating strange animals, bats included, doesn't help the situation! The chinese are also known for their treatment of animals and sometimes eating live animals. All the more likely that eventually a pathogen meant for that particular species could take the jump to now infecting humans.

   Now the Chinese are put in a situation they must save face, so they tell lies. One lie is that "the virus only kills children and elderly and any people unfit, so middle aged and healthy people are ok". Well, the Chinese doctor that had it was 19 and healthy and ended up dead.

   Recently, a Chinese person revealed that people who're infected and not dead yet, but dying, are put in body bags and sent to cremation. This is crazy. This shows one way devilry works at the collective level when it's survival is threatened. 

   

 

Yea I believe this stuff. It's making the rounds 

This is a picture of a Chinese woman eating a bat. 

 

 

The whole idea that only unhealthy would die is a myth. Look at the Iranian guy. 

I'm sure these viruses have been transmitted through animals that should not have been eaten and even all the bio warfare laboratories are going to create destruction. 

I hope the Chinese government wakes up. 

[Vladz0r]

Don't be so quick to call out the entire Chinese government. They don't enact the same food regulations in Wuhan that are in other places in China. They're trying to get ahold of their territory. The bigger issues stem from the their lack of free speech under totalitarian government. We've been theorizing what type of next virus there'd be.
You're probably a lot safer going to China and getting good healthcare than staying in the US, honestly, if you're like 50+ and have that higher rate of fatality from the virus. 
If you think the United States would ever send in Military doctors into California and New York to try and protect their people, you're sorely mistaken. On our end, we're looking to privatize the coronavirus cure and yield a nice profit from it, so now would be the time to invest some stocks into big pharama.

 

And yes, not only the unhealthy are gonna die. All it'll take is a kid spreading it to his entire school, and thus the adults and their families. On average, a kid's parent is going to be 10-20x as likely to die from it than the kids themselves. In US public schools the kids will probably make a joke or a game out of spreading the coronavirus to each other. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Vladz0r