Does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body....

[intotheblack]

Yesterday I was just thinking to myself how nothing seems real and how weird it is that I am something alive and thinking.  My fave conversation since I was little is  ‘isn’t it crazy how we are humans living on a planet’  

I was thinking about how I go through my day on auto pilot, like riding my bike to work and not thinking about what I’m doing, then ending up there.  Looking down at my legs cycling but doing it automatically.  How does the body do things whilst your mind is somewhere else?!


I then got a scared feeling, like a panic attack.  Couldn’t sleep last night and had some weird dreams. 
 

how can we even comprehend what we are? I’m thinking more and more about how dreamlike everything is.  

[Leo Gura]

There is no boundary between body and mind.

No boundary between controller and controlled.

[Rilles]

thought affects emotion, emotion affects thought and youre just watching it happen

[Tetrapeter]

A few days ago I worked on observing and handling negative emotions. Found a simple technique from a psychologist on youtube. I just hold my breath as long as I could and stay as coscious as I could. As doing so follow the points:
1. Notice sensations, thoughts and emotions
2. Allow them to be there while still holding you breath
3. Notice any thoughts that come up and gently thank your mind for the thought
4. Expand your awareness, notice other sensations thoughts and emotions
5. Imagine you want to feel the "out of breath feeling"
6. Be curious - what does discomfort feel like?

The moment when the body wants to breathe really bad is the most interesting moment. There I crash with the "boundary". It seems like the body take over controll and just start to breathe. I was wondering If its possible to just pass out, if your will is strong enough to withstand the urge to breath.
Im not planning to do this and I dont recommend it, but I think there is something to grasp there with this technique. Maybe Leo's thesis : "There is no boundary between body and mind."

Just wanted to share this with you guys. Maybe its worthwhile for somebody. :-*

 

[Nahm]

5 hours ago, intotheblack said:

Yesterday I was just thinking to myself how nothing seems real and how weird it is that I am something alive and thinking.  

You’ve never experienced “being two”, so when you notice that self referential thinking, notice feeling is guiding you. Instead of believing the thought, listen to feeling, and inspect the thought. If you ignore the feeling and continue believing the thoughts, the feeling won’t change. I’d inspect what you mean by “nothing” for any assumptions. You might be talking about it somewhat carelessly, as in, not noticing you are talking about something which you’ve never actually experienced. It’s a habit of thought to ‘write off’ thoughts in that manor. Got to notice. 

5 hours ago, intotheblack said:

My fave conversation since I was little is  ‘isn’t it crazy how we are humans living on a planet’  

I was thinking about how I go through my day on auto pilot, like riding my bike to work and not thinking about what I’m doing, then ending up there.  Looking down at my legs cycling but doing it automatically.  How does the body do things whilst your mind is somewhere else?!

That would be assumption...that there is a mind which is somewhere else. If you inspect that thought for truth, you might find the opposite to be more true. In simply believing the thought, you miss that you have never experience “a mind somewhere else”. Much of common language used hides the truth which is in plain sight, especially as thoughts being believed without being scrutinized for validity. 

5 hours ago, intotheblack said:

I then got a scared feeling, like a panic attack.  Couldn’t sleep last night and had some weird dreams. 

You didn’t inspect the thoughts...then you labeled feeling as bad (scared). Feeling is not “bad”. Listen to the feeling, it’s telling the truth about those thoughts. Don’t write it off to “scary”. 

5 hours ago, intotheblack said:

how can we even comprehend what we are? I’m thinking more and more about how dreamlike everything is.  

Inspect the thoughts you already have going, rather than adding more. 

[intotheblack]

@Nahm I like your analysis.  Thank you 

[Nahm]

@intotheblack Anytime ♥️

[Nahm]

@AwakenedSoul444 The mind body is itself the spontaneity.