30 something comes with harsh reality by better bachelor (this isn't crocodile tears)

[Meetjoeblack]

 

These aren't crocodile tears. She's is legit crying. 

 

This is the beaten path of bs pushed in our culture. Tinder, Netflix and chill, social media, etc. There's a savage element in the world today of dating. 

Her experience at 34 is similar to my dating experience before pickup. Before I hit my stride. 

Today, my prefer could be summed up by the DiCaprio effect (18-25). No apologies! 

No amount of beta male shame tactics will alter the following. 

 

Dating is ruthless. There is no do overs. Twenties and teens don't come back. IME, I have had women not give me the time a day when I her teens and twenties before I started pickup. Today, they come around similar to the video. Furious seeing me with far younger, HOTTER, fitter girls. 

Ironic, back then, I would have been happy to marry her/them. I am having trouble comprehending such a possibility. 

I am not interested today. I am not being a dick but, I am not interested in homemaker now after Chad's not blowing up the phone anymore, baby rabies, or being daddy to some other man's kids. No thank you Jeff! 

 

I am predicting more of the following to come with our current degenerate culture. These vblogs and articles are a warning sign. 

 

But who (if anybody) is listening? 

[Arcangelo]

Maybe 20% of men having sex with 80% of women is not a bad thing. Maybe it's just evolution, maybe dating apps and social media are helping humanity to have better genes. Us guys that are not getting free sex, we are probably not fit to pass our genes. I said that I have gone through 300+ rejections so far.

Some people tell me is definitely not them is you. And I agree, take my dad and cousin for example they are naturals they have kids, they have attractive personalities, they didn't have to learn sh@t, they had it in them since birth.

 

[DrewNows]

I met a woman similar to this last week, she was quite unstable, lost in her story, ended up being quite a shadow of mine

I feel that it’s not just dating that’s ruthless, it’s life in general. The more we listen to how we feel the less tolerable and more decisive we become. The trick is not to become too attached to any storyline/belief system/external source. All the drama is guiding people back to the truth, a good laugh, a warm embrace, unity, reconnecting with themselves, expanding oneself 

[Preety_India]

You have to understand that everyone has their own perspective. You cannot stereotype and generalize people. 

You trying to criticize people with family values can also be considered shaming as well. Why do you fail to see that? 

If you're okay with casual sex, nobody is stopping you or shaming you. But if a man wants love, marriage and a lifetime one woman partner, HE IS NOT A BETA CUCK. Maybe it's time for you to revaluate how you see the world. 

 

Why do you think that you are some kind of a winner if you get young hot sexy chicks.

Dating is not about losing or winning. Maybe it is for you. 

So if a man found an older woman who is matured and understanding and loving and not your stereotypical hot young sexy girl, and he is happily married to her, is he a Loser???? 

Maybe he is a loser in your eyes.. Not in the eyes of everyone. He is happy he found what he wanted. 

Move on dude!! 

[TrynaBeTurquoise]

All this ideological cultural dating analysis shit is a waste of time, won't serve you in any way. 

[Meetjoeblack]

4 hours ago, Arcangelo said:

Maybe 20% of men having sex with 80% of women is not a bad thing. Maybe it's just evolution, maybe dating apps and social media are helping humanity to have better genes. Us guys that are not getting free sex, we are probably not fit to pass our genes. I said that I have gone through 300+ rejections so far.

Some people tell me is definitely not them is you. And I agree, take my dad and cousin for example they are naturals they have kids, they have attractive personalities, they didn't have to learn sh@t, they had it in them since birth.

 

Bro, a mod gave dubs/ban camp dissecting my night of pickup.

50-100 approaches. Maybe more. I got #metoo'd in the club SrS (ie girls grabbing IT or going down my pants in bar/club). If I tried this on girls, I'd be arrested for Weinsteining. It's ludicrous how degenerate it is out there. So, 50-100+ cold approaching and I pull back to her condo balcony. I won't give up on the details given a particular trigger happy mod.

Do the math. You don't need a diagram.

In terms of metrics, that's garbage approach to pull ratio but the alternative is what? Pornhub? The girl in the video or alike? I am not hating on her. Good luck to her.

Guys get destroyed in divorce court marrying after a series of past indiscretions, promiscuity, and reckless partying. Molyneux has a truth on sex series. Promiscuity equates to guarantee divorce virtually.

 

Wing with naturals. It ducks learning but whatev. Play the hand you are dealt. It is not impossible. Furthermore, many guys who were natural get screwed later. They never earned it. They likely had look's, had attention young but they never put their time in to really learn game.

The high school football captain took all the girls. He was alpha. He was a dick. He was the kind of guy to tell girls they were coming to his game Friday night and he would be punching someone out that night in the parking lot. Sure enough, he would but always some little guy. Girls just flocked to him. He ran through the school.

Fast forward to the present day. He's fat, has a crappy job, hates life, and his high school sweet heart cucked him and left him. He never developed. He was on easy mode until he couldn't anymore.

[Meetjoeblack]

30 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

You have to understand that everyone has their own perspective. You cannot stereotype and generalize people. 

You trying to criticize people with family values can also be considered shaming as well. Why do you fail to see that? 

If you're okay with casual sex, nobody is stopping you or shaming you. But if a man wants love, marriage and a lifetime one woman partner, HE IS NOT A BETA CUCK. Maybe it's time for you to revaluate how you see the world. 

 

Why do you think that you are some kind of a winner if you get young hot sexy chicks.

Dating is not about losing or winning. Maybe it is for you. 

So if a man found an older woman who is matured and understanding and loving and not your stereotypical hot young sexy girl, and he is happily married to her, is he a Loser???? 

Maybe he is a loser in your eyes.. Not in the eyes of everyone. He is happy he found what he wanted. 

Move on dude!! 

Who said anything about family values?

How about family values between 18-25? Come at me.

A woman can date whoever. Whenever.
The same way, I can date whatever targeted demographic I like.

The best ltr and marriages I know All met her I Said demographic.

Flio through tinder bios. "proud single mom," or "Poly," I had another mag about her in a ltr but has a pass because her bf has low libido.

I don't want to live on this planet anymore lulz!

You clearly didn't watch the vblog. Nobody found love in it. It's 30min of crying. That's not love lol.

[Preety_India]

5 minutes ago, Meetjoeblack said:

Who said anything about family values?

How about family values between 18-25? Come at me.

A woman can date whoever. Whenever.
The same way, I can date whatever targeted demographic I like.

The best ltr and marriages I know All met her I Said demographic.

Flio through tinder bios. "proud single mom," or "Poly," I had another mag about her in a ltr but has a pass because her bf has low libido.

I don't want to live on this planet anymore lulz!

You clearly didn't watch the vblog. Nobody found love in it. It's 30min of crying. That's not love lol.

Nobody is shaming you for dating whoever you want to date. Probably you're the one shaming yourself. 

And all the phrases "Bible belt talk" and "beta male Shame tactics" and "degenerate culture" and "women crying" is your own invention and your own delusion. 

People are happy in whatever relationships they are. No need to shame women for their choices. 

Smh

 

[Meetjoeblack]

4 hours ago, DrewNows said:

I met a woman similar to this last week, she was quite unstable, lost in her story, ended up being quite a shadow of mine

I feel that it’s not just dating that’s ruthless, it’s life in general. The more we listen to how we feel the less tolerable and more decisive we become. The trick is not to become too attached to any storyline/belief system/external source. All the drama is guiding people back to the truth, a good laugh, a warm embrace, unity, reconnecting with themselves, expanding oneself 

There's a lot of social engineering.

Sleep around. Don't need no man. Fish bicycle rhetoric. Any male grievance is met with censorship or screams of misogyny.

If you have a prerequisite or a preference for a demographic for dating, women are furious and male feminists are attacking too. Again, a inability to compete. Dudes will attack DiCaprio but if they could pull like him, they sure as hell would.

I suspect my journey will come full circle at some point. It is one thing to be able to do pickup and yet choose marriage and monogamy.

A lot of guys will virtue signal and sump attempting to front their moral superiority. In actuality, they are incapable.

RSD Tyler is spot on. Guys think they can pickup and fight until they actually got to go do it lulz.

Good luck to the girl in the video. A lot are being sold this crap as if there's no fallout or consequences. You can have it all is the biggest lie. BS!

It's all a sacrifice. Not sacrificing is a sacrifice. I have made a sacrifice to learn game. It's a price most men never pay. The outcome measures are telling.

The girls I get on with best are into tripping.

[Meetjoeblack]

3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Nobody is shaming you for dating whoever you want to date. Probably you're the one shaming yourself. 

And all the phrases "Bible belt talk" and "beta male Shame tactics" and "degenerate culture" and "women crying" is your own invention and your own delusion. 

People are happy in whatever relationships they are. No need to shame women for their choices. 

Smh

 

Lmfao what lol

I assure you, the girl in the video is crying.

[Preety_India]

4 minutes ago, Meetjoeblack said:

Lmfao what lol

I assure you, the girl in the video is crying.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't apply to all. 

 

 

[Meetjoeblack]

13 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

It doesn't matter. It doesn't apply to all. 

 

 

That's not a argument.

The premise being, a outlier separate from the norm.

The blank slate argument cracks me up.

Let's say.. .  I don't know.

80% of divorce initiated by women.

So, 20% don't have a divorce lulz so, I'll sign right up? Or how about I do more pickup!

That 20% doesn't measure the happiness of the marriage, sex life or a number of things.

Tim Cast posted a vblog that male happiness actually goes down lololol.

 

 

[Preety_India]

6 minutes ago, Meetjoeblack said:

That's not a argument.

The premise being, a outlier separate from the norm.

The blank slate argument cracks me up.

Let's say.. .  I don't know.

80% of divorce initiated by women.

So, 20% don't have a divorce lulz so, I'll sign right up? Or how about I do more pickup!

That 20% doesn't measure the happiness of the marriage, sex life or a number of things.

Tim Cast posted a vblog that male happiness actually goes down lololol.

 

 

If 80% is initiated by women, then what you're implying is contradictory. 

That means it's the women who are not happy! 

 

[Applegarden]

36 minutes ago, Arcangelo said:

Maybe 20% of men having sex with 80% of women is not a bad thing. Maybe it's just evolution, maybe dating apps and social media are helping humanity to have better genes. Us guys that are not getting free sex, we are probably not fit to pass our genes. I said that I have gone through 300+ rejections so far.

Some people tell me is definitely not them is you. And I agree, take my dad and cousin for example they are naturals they have kids, they have attractive personalities, they didn't have to learn sh@t, they had it in them since birth.

 

I have good news to you, maybe life is not even about reproduction, physical intimacy, companionship. And that pleasure will end for those who are enjoying it also at some point. Whats the difference between 0 hours of that or 10000 hours of that? You always want more, if you are not ready to renounce.

[Meetjoeblack]

16 hours ago, Preety_India said:

If 80% is initiated by women, then what you're implying is contradictory. 

That means it's the women who are not happy! 

 

No. You follow the trail of money. 

Ie richest woman on planet via divorce. 

Netflix and chill is free. 

12 hours ago, Applegarden said:

I have good news to you, maybe life is not even about reproduction, physical intimacy, companionship. And that pleasure will end for those who are enjoying it also at some point. Whats the difference between 0 hours of that or 10000 hours of that? You always want more, if you are not ready to renounce.

Maybe. Maybe not. 

It's apparent that the top percentile of man is getting most of the girls. The tears follow at say 34 when a reality check hits. Again people are free to do whatever. The idea of no consequence is ridiculous. 

 

The vast majority of the pickup threads are locked because feelers are in a knot rather than actually using reason and evidence. 

(eg if I approach more I will get laid more). The outrage follows because men and women don't necessarily exercise the same sexual strategy. 

[Roy]

Just more low consciousness people, pointing out low consciousness behavior, in other low consciousness people.

Playing in the mud makes you a pig too. Facts and logic and graphs and arguments don't make you clean, it's just mean you're covered in a different kind of mud.

All this struggle, money, time, and energy going into something that won't last or won't make you happy.

Learn to let go of your need for things to be a certain way and just be.

[Preety_India]

29 minutes ago, Meetjoeblack said:

No. You follow the trail of money. 

Ie richest woman on planet via divorce. 

Netflix and chill is free. 

 

All I'm going to say is that you have a skewed opinion on marriage and relationships. But people who are successful in their relationships won't say that. Not every marriage ends in divorce. Life's choices can't be defined by statistics, you can always choose to be the exception from the norm. Whatever fits you, you do that, but do not radicalize others. Your bad experiences do not shape their worldview. You can't demonize the institution of marriage. Understand that divorce is a separate process. Nobody gets married with the expectation of divorce. So marriage and divorce are two separate things. You're automatically associating marriage with divorce. Divorce only happens when a marriage fails, so marriage is not the cause of divorce, but failure of a marriage is. Now focus on why the marriages fail rather than on marriage itself. Look at the content rather than blaming the structure. Marriage can fail due to so many factors. So if a man (or woman) worked on his issues and worked on his marriage, maybe he would be able to save it or at least not make the same mistake next time, try to see what's lacking in you that causes a relationship to break and work on those weak spots, a failure of a marriage /relationship teaches a lot of things, lot to learn and lot to improve rather than just dumping blame on the issue itself, that's what the egoic mind does, but an empathetic mind tries to see what can be done to better a situation and admits his/her role in the situation. The empathetic mind cultivates qualities and skills required to resolve the situation and find a way through it and focuses on self development, the cultivation of self, nobody is perfect and so everyone needs to cultivate their best self and its only in a marriage that we get the opportunity to closely see our flaws and imperfections and work on them, and also how to accept the flaws we can't change or accept the flaws in the partner for the sake of patience and unconditional love and forgiveness. Relationships are never meant to be easy but finding a way to cut short them is escapism. Maybe divorce laws can be changed to be more fair to both parties and to be less annihilating but just because divorce laws are biased or misused does not mean that relationships are pointless or culture is degenerate. Work on issues that need legal change, start social revolution for this change rather than creating an alternative culture as an escape route. At the end of the day it's not a solution just a satisfaction that you didn't have to face the consequences of a flawed system

 

Good luck 

[Meetjoeblack]

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

All I'm going to say is that you have a skewed opinion on marriage and relationships. But people who are successful in their relationships won't say that. Not every marriage ends in divorce. Life's choices can't be defined by statistics, you can always choose to be the exception from the norm. Whatever fits you, you do that, but do not radicalize others. Your bad experiences do not shape their worldview. You can't demonize the institution of marriage. Understand that divorce is a separate process. Nobody gets married with the expectation of divorce. So marriage and divorce are two separate things. You're automatically associating marriage with divorce. Divorce only happens when a marriage fails, so marriage is not the cause of divorce, but failure of a marriage is. Now focus on why the marriages fail rather than on marriage itself. Look at the content rather than blaming the structure. Marriage can fail due to so many factors. So if a man (or woman) worked on his issues and worked on his marriage, maybe he would be able to save it or at least not make the same mistake next time, try to see what's lacking in you that causes a relationship to break and work on those weak spots, a failure of a marriage /relationship teaches a lot of things, lot to learn and lot to improve rather than just dumping blame on the issue itself, that's what the egoic mind does, but an empathetic mind tries to see what can be done to better a situation and admits his/her role in the situation. The empathetic mind cultivates qualities and skills required to resolve the situation and find a way through it and focuses on self development, the cultivation of self, nobody is perfect and so everyone needs to cultivate their best self and its only in a marriage that we get the opportunity to closely see our flaws and imperfections and work on them, and also how to accept the flaws we can't change or accept the flaws in the partner for the sake of patience and unconditional love and forgiveness. Relationships are never meant to be easy but finding a way to cut short them is escapism. Maybe divorce laws can be changed to be more fair to both parties and to be less annihilating but just because divorce laws are biased or misused does not mean that relationships are pointless or culture is degenerate. Work on issues that need legal change, start social revolution for this change rather than creating an alternative culture as an escape route. At the end of the day it's not a solution just a satisfaction that you didn't have to face the consequences of a flawed system

 

Good luck 

Do you even paragraph? 

The change is in pickup. Genuine interest or next set! 

There's MRAs who have virtually accomplished nothing. Threads like pickup are closed here. Reddit subs are shutdown. 

There's a lot of things a failed marriage teaches as does the trail of money. The solution is next set. There's a ton of these situations none of which are popularized as is pushing student debt, career, and the beaten path. It clearly is fools gold. 

Relationships are not pointless. The beaten path is as is following whatever the culture normalizes. A pastor recently tried pushing Poly. It is manipulation as is "free love." nothing is free. There's always a price. 

[Preety_India]

5 minutes ago, Meetjoeblack said:

Do you even paragraph? 

The change is in pickup. Genuine interest or next set! 

There's MRAs who have virtually accomplished nothing. Threads like pickup are closed here. Reddit subs are shutdown. 

There's a lot of things a failed marriage teaches as does the trail of money. The solution is next set. There's a ton of these situations none of which are popularized as is pushing student debt, career, and the beaten path. It clearly is fools gold. 

Relationships are not pointless. The beaten path is as is following whatever the culture normalizes. A pastor recently tried pushing Poly. It is manipulation as is "free love." nothing is free. There's always a price. 

There is a reason those threads are closed here. Because there are not about fostering love or spiritual growth. 

Are you kidding me? 

You think that a woman will be genuinely interested in you when all you do is objectify her for your instant sexual needs. 

If you want a high quality woman, like Anna pointed out in another thread, then learn to be high quality yourself or be happy with rejections. 

And yes. Nobody is manipulating you. You are the only one spewing your red pilling here bringing in your misogynistic views on women. Maybe you like to see women cry to satisfy your ego. 

You're the only one who is constantly talking about money in a marriage. A wholesome good quality woman doesn't need your money trail. Bullshit. She needs love and care and attention and commitment. Doubt you can offer that. 

Till then be happy with your bar girls who like to hook up for a dollar or 2.

Get ready now for your next one night stand or pickup joint whatever bullshit you call it. 

This time there are many paragraphs. 

Goodbye. 

 

[Meetjoeblack]

3 hours ago, Preety_India said:

There is a reason those threads are closed here. Because there are not about fostering love or spiritual growth.

 

Respectfully, I disagree. It's closed due to feelers and biases but I digress. 

Are you kidding me? 

You think that a woman will be genuinely interested in you when all you do is objectify her for your instant sexual needs.

Serious question or rhetorical +? 

You realize sex requires more than one person right? 

If you want a high quality woman, like Anna pointed out in another thread, then learn to be high quality yourself or be happy with rejections. 

And yes. Nobody is manipulating you. You are the only one spewing your red pilling here bringing in your misogynistic views on women. Maybe you like to see women cry to satisfy your ego. 

You're the only one who is constantly talking about money in a marriage. A wholesome good quality woman doesn't need your money trail. Bullshit. She needs love and care and attention and commitment. Doubt you can offer that.

It's not been my experience. Nor a barrier to entry. More often than not, it's a suggestion made to me. The expectation of course is to want more sooner or later. 

 

Till then be happy with your bar girls who like to hook up for a dollar or 2.

Now who is stereotyping? 

Transaction isn't genuine desire. 

Get ready now for your next one night stand or pickup joint whatever bullshit you call it. 

This time there are many paragraphs. 

Goodbye.

 

 

 

 

It's a great time to point out, the inability to engage and react. It's better to be at the cause then the effect. I rather approach and get a rejection then no reaction. 

You can't agree to disagree. You can't help but respond to me. 

These are my thoughts on the matter and topic. Anybody else reading, it's a classic example of game, of being low in agreeableness, and reactivity. There's a stark contrast in following the beaten path, whatever the culture pushes, and people follow. Culture is malleable. Whatever way the wind blows, people follow. Its like pissing in the wind. It is dumb. 

I agree with @Leo Gura that there's definitely higher levels of being and consciousness. I agree with him that there's value to be had in learning. Moreover, there is a huge difference in approaching and presuming to know what it is without having any such experience.

Even then, in many cases, people rant at him for his own perspective and experience with people who don't approach but want to vent their feels. 

Do you approach guys? SrS?