Is Truth Absolutely Known or Absolutely Unknown?

[Anton Rogachevski]

4 minutes ago, pluto said:

Truth is beyond known and unknown

Yet some people can talk about it as if they know. How is that possible? 

[Shadowraix]

38 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

Yet some people can talk about it as if they know. How is that possible? 

They are conscious of it. Which is quite different from forming a mental model. You can translate being conscious into a mental model, but that model is never it and never fully representative. So you can't "know" because it can't be encompassed in a model. 

It comes before knowing. That's where being conscious lies. 

Edited February 16, 2020 by Shadowraix

[kieranperez]

What is called from some traditions as "Unknown" or "Uknowing" is the same as "Knowing" "Known". Pick your preference with words. It doesn't matter. 

Why do you think Ralston's book is called "The Book of Not Knowing"?  

Why do you think all traditions stress Not-Knowing?

Or traditions that stress That which Knows?

In the end, these are all words that are a description of something that is neither a thing nor can ever be described. EVER. 

[Nahm]

@Anton Rogachevski Are you able to now see this thread as your own invitation to do the work?