This Is Why Men Have Less SΕX Than Women

[Gili Trawangan]

3 hours ago, Anna1 said:

Hmm, I just thought of something. Seems like when certain men are talking about women only picking top 10% of men or having more sex then men and so forth and getting pissed off about it. Basically, they are just talking about the young, hot girls...not any other girls. Do you care if the chubby, nerdy girl tries for the top 10% of guys? Of course not.

I mean, seriously, how many guys doing pick-up care about the mediocre looking girl? Or the girl who has a few lbs to lose? Or the nerdy girl with a nice personality?  I'm betting not many.

So, I'd say certain women like the ones listed above, probably feel that men are picky too and only want top 10% of women. If they are aiming for younger hot guys.

However, I see women and men, of all looks and shapes/sizes, together, dating or married, all the time. Take a look next time you're at Wal-mart! If you pay attention it seems most couples are with ppl of about the same attractiveness level. That might sound rude, but I don't mean to offend anyone. I just think that it usually works that way, mostly.

If you are a 4, looks wise and you are going after an 8, well, that person may not be interested, unless they get to know you and your personality.

I'm not directing this post to anyone specific. It's just something that came to mind.

 

 

 

This is the "sexual marketplace", explained in a nutshell. 

Of course, when men are bitching and moaning about it they are thinking about hot girls, conveniently forgetting and ignoring all the others.

And women do the same with men, like what the other video by this same guy was talking about, women ignore the vast majority of men who they simply don't find attractive.

You could say that men's attractiveness threshold is lower, but who cares? It just is what it is, you can't rationalize attraction.

So bitching and moaning is just a waste of time, as usual.

[Derek White]

1 hour ago, Roy said:

I know you didn't ask me but I think I can answer your question;

Social media/Cellphone/Computer/Internet usage, and addiction to those things in general is the primary contributor, above all in my opinion. Even more than the social and economic climate, which I would argue the former listed technology changed itself.

People born in the very late 80's and early 90's all the way up until know have grown up and developed their social cognition and relationship skills in a world that is increasingly taking place digitally. For obvious reasons this can hinder and outright handicap people (and apparently young men especially) in their ability to relate to people meaningfully and be confident in face to face interactions.

1. Social media SMASHES peoples self-esteem and warps their view of themselves and how they should look/behave/etc. It bombards people with constant information about how others are living amazing lives (most of which are highly edited and or outright fake), and how they are not. Everyone's standards are ridiculous and unattainable because of social media.

2. Cellphones are self explanatory. They are amazing communication and utility tools but people are spending WAAAYYY too much time on them. Why talk to someone on the phone when you can text them? It goes without saying, any communication that isn't happening face to face is contorted because of lack of facial expressions/body language to read off of. That's why most young teenagers these days seem autistic. They have literally spent most of their lives using technology to communicate instead of their bodies lol.

3. Computers/Internet. Pretty clear. Why go out and get good with girls when you can just jerk off to the hottest girls you'll ever see for absolutely free with only the click of a few buttons?

Yea probably. 

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

The question itself is foolish.

You have no clue how much sex who is having.

How about you focus on growing yourself as a man?

Alright. Was just asking for curiosity sake.

1 hour ago, TrynaBeTurquoise said:

Having less sex compared to when? 5 years ago? 10? 20?

Also how less of sex are men having and how do people keep track of this? Is this true for a self actualizing male, or just true for the average man who probably doesn't take care of himself physically, mentally and spiritually? I think the ladder. Maybe the rise of the internet and so a lot of men just stay at home on the computer all day gaming or what not, compared to 20 years ago when that wasn't a thing. Or maybe the economy and how much more young people need to work and go to class and that takes over their lives, leaving less time for pursuing sex? Just ideas. 

Yea

[Leo Gura]

To be more helpful to you, women generally have less problems with being incels simply because women are more social creatures. These days it's all too easy for a man to lock himself in his mancave and spend most of his time online or playing video games. You just can't get laid that way. If you invested as much time into being social as you did into playing video games or hanging around online, you'd get laid way more.

The #1 biggest thing you can do to increase your sex is to be social.

It's that simple. But it requires you make structural changes to your way of life. Which of course no one wants to do.

Try it. Make a goal to talk to 10 new people every day for 90 days. You'll be amazed at the opportunities that come your way. Not just sex but jobs, ideas, friendships, etc. Being social takes effort for many people, especially guys and introverts.

If you're an introverted guy who spends all his time online, you will basically never get laid. So change that.

[Derek White]

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

To be more helpful to you, women generally have less problems with being incels simply because women are more social creatures. These days it's all too easy for a man to lock himself in his mancave and spend most of his time online or playing video games. You just can't get laid that way. If you invested as much time into being social as you did into playing video games or hanging around online, you'd get laid way more.

The #1 biggest thing you can do to increase your sex is to be social.

It's that simple. But it requires you make structural changes to your way of life. Which of course no one wants to do.

Try it. Make a goal to talk to 10 new people every day for 90 days. You'll be amazed at the opportunities that come your way. Not just sex but jobs, ideas, friendships, etc. Being social takes effort for many people, especially guys and introverts.

If you're an introverted guy who spends all his time online, you will basically never get laid. So change that.

I see.

[RawJudah]

@Leo Gura How do you work part time in a big city? (Where all the girls are)

I’m not trying to make excuses, but this is reality. Big cities cost lots of money to live in. Working part time just won’t pay the bills. 

[Ananta]

Part of my point is that women rarely make threads about how no guy wants to date them or they can't find a BF. For one, because I think most realize they have to find a guy in there "relatively" same attractiveness level or they can forget it.

I've had friends that were not very good looking and they never went for the hot guy, because although they would've been thrilled, they knew it was not possible. 

[Ananta]

12 hours ago, Gili Trawangan said:

Of course, when men are bitching and moaning about it they are thinking about hot girls, conveniently forgetting and ignoring all the others.

Ok, well, the hot girls...want hot guys, usually. Of course, there are exceptions.

[Farnaby]

23 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

Part of my point is that women rarely make threads about how no guy wants to date them or they can't find a BF. For one, because I think most realize they have to find a guy in there "relatively" same attractiveness level or they can forget it.

I've had friends that were not very good looking and they never went for the hot guy, because although they would've been thrilled, they knew it was not possible. 

Hmm I don't thinks it's so black and white. I've seen not so handsome men go for the hot girl and have it work for them, usually because they were very social, funny and confident. 

For women I think this is even easier, but maybe that's prejudice. 

What I'm trying to say is that many of our limiting beliefs such as "she's more attractive and will never find me interesting" are in our minds and are actually preventing us from being attractive. 

Of course I don't think this always works, sometimes the hot girl/guy will not be attracted to you, but it's better not to take that as a universal truth.

[Ananta]

49 minutes ago, Farnaby said:

Hmm I don't thinks it's so black and white. I've seen not so handsome men go for the hot girl and have it work for them, usually because they were very social, funny and confident. 

For women I think this is even easier, but maybe that's prejudice. 

What I'm trying to say is that many of our limiting beliefs such as "she's more attractive and will never find me interesting" are in our minds and are actually preventing us from being attractive. 

Of course I don't think this always works, sometimes the hot girl/guy will not be attracted to you, but it's better not to take that as a universal truth.

I actually agree that that can and does happen, especially when you have time to get to know someone, but more often then not, ppl are with ppl of relatively the same attractiveness, imo. Again, take a look around the mall or Wal-mart. Its blatantly obvious.

 

[Emerald]

There are no top-tier men or bottom-tier men.

There is the man you want... and then there's everyone else on the planet.

 

[tsuki]

Guys want sex, so they include lots of sex into a top-tier man construct.
Then, they proceed to judge women for having sex with the top-tier man instead of them.

Isn't it ridiculous?

 

[Danioover9000]

15 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   I'll give my take on this. It seems like the man on the video is immersed in stage Orange thinking: he rationalizes this issue of men having less sex by first presenting himself as scientific and rational, and shifts the issues of decrease in sex drive to external factors like pornography and female hypergamy, and subtlety blames stage green groups (#metoo) for young men's decrease in sex. Interestingly, female hypergamy is actually mostly a stage Orange female based view on men(with few elements of stage red thinking/manipulation) based on physical attraction, material luxury increase(more make-up, dress, jewelry...), Out doing her female friends, ect...

   He hasn't realized yet that his view is very relative and changes meanings based on where you're at in the spiral.

   At stage baige, these things are insignificant, because the organisms here are immersed in survival.

   At stage purple, these issues are almost insignificant, except when there's tribal warfare at play. and seed honouring takes place. If you happen to be within a tribe, and you do have sex problem, their solutions include prayer to the sex god/goddess, and magical ritual and offering a wild boar's penis and testicles to suit your peculiar issue.

   At stage red, because of the increase in egoic impulse and selfishness, this issue is insignificant, unless he/she has this issue. Their solutions to this sex problem is, more sex! Get more women! And blame it on that suspicious looking man there, or that other woman, or anything else but you. Most solutions will be impulsive and selfish and heavily manipulated. They wouldn't care if this issue affects other but themselves. Mostly criminal and evil ways.

   At stage blue, if this issue effects most of the group, solutions will mostly be based on traditional ways, religious ways like abstinence until marriage, mostly Orthodox ways of dealing with the issue.

   At stage Orange, this issue would be treated using rational thinking, material ways like western medicine, and empowering the individual's self confidence through putting that man/woman into competitive situations with the hope the person pulls himself/herself together. If failure, then it's just them being lazy, or there's something wrong in their heads, or something wrong with their sex organ, or maybe this person's a snow flake or a LGBT thing. Maybe this person's a victim of those darn smelly hippies, they softened him/her up with their wishful woowoo nonsense! They're turning young people into veggies! And so on...

   At stage green, a solution to this decrease in sex is filtered through their values of emotional connection, love, community that has a wider circle of concern, humanism, higher moral development. They may include alternative medicine and methods that are unconventional and outside the mainstream conventional ways, maybe channelling sex/love related spirits and use of psychedelic ect...

   At stage yellow, this issue is dealt with systematically, taking a more holistic view of the person's sexual health/ young people's health, their biological health like the hormonal systems, their nutrition, their innate genetics, psychological needs and traits, upbringing, social conditions. They would solve the roots cause of their individual/collective problem, and work with experienced experts at specific fields in relation to the individual's issue about sex and various other factors, ect...

   At stage turquoise, the issue would be dealt with through use and synthesis of spiritual methods tied to paranormal and energetic methods. The solutions would be a fusion of high science with high magical means, and mystical experiences, through encouraging the individual/ collective here with this issue to integrate themselves, ect...

   Finally, even the words I write is relative to my and your level of cognitive development, moral development, lines of development, words with meanings tied to different shadow selves, and language barrier, as well as subject to the mind's ability to generalize, distort, distract, deny, substitute, blame, judge, demonize, idolize and conveniently forget information and habits that has very high chances of killing it.

   I tried saving a stray cat that lost a mating battle, and consoled it with my high levels of understanding, empathy and compassion, because cat lovers told me their kind and gentle cuties, and I agree too!? The cat, however, was having none of my understanding and compassion. It swipes it's paw left and dented in my right cheek.? despite the hurt, I now have a pet cat, and I still show my love and understanding to the stray cats that visit, including the swipes left cat, but at a distance.?

   Thanks for reading, and have a great journey!

 

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[Space]

16 hours ago, Anna1 said:

Basically, they are just talking about the young, hot girls...not any other girls. Do you care if the chubby, nerdy girl tries for the top 10% of guys? Of course not.

However, I see women and men, of all looks and shapes/sizes, together, dating or married, all the time. Take a look next time you're at Wal-mart! If you pay attention it seems most couples are with ppl of about the same attractiveness level. That might sound rude, but I don't mean to offend anyone. I just think that it usually works that way, mostly.

Exactly what I was gonna say. The red pill guys are looking at the behaviour of the top tier girls and then assuming that thats all there is. And as you say, they simply ignore the fact that there are millions of normal or average looking people getting together and hooking up all the time. 

[RawJudah]

@Space Spot on. When they say ‘all girls’ they mean the 10% of girls that can behave like assholes. 
 

Average girls/women are generally good to get along with and most of the time won’t take you to the cleaners in a divorce...

[electroBeam]

21 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Forrest Adkins Your simplistic and juvenile explanations about women and sex are created by your mind to advance your survival. They do not accurately reflect reality.

Well it's not working well. Bitching about not having enough sex is not advancing anyone's survival. 

[Applegarden]

Men have less than women... But wait, with who? All the women hookup with very few men? Are there more lesbians than gays? Do girls participate more with groupies, wait... How could both genders not have equal amount of sex if they are heterosexual? My mind just crashed...

Ohh its about the age, so what if women want older men, assuming this is even true. Now, why does this even matter? And everyone wants SMART, ATTRACTIVE, SUCCESFUL, EMOTIONALLY INTELLIGENT. Meh, just leave it to run its course, don't engage, we all have double standards, the mating game is illogical and very hypocritical, sofisticated, complicated and very based on the social hierachies and whatever values at the time. I am not happy about the values most people hold so i don't even engage, this is a self-development forum, if you want some sex, if you work on it, you can score or whatever. But sadly, this is not going to fulfill you in any way in the longest term that is this one lifetime till the end, there are bigger things to realize, if you focus on the nature of reality this will just mean nothing. 

Edited February 12, 2020 by Applegarden

[Bill W]

4 minutes ago, Applegarden said:

Men have less than women... But wait, with who? All the women hookup with very few men? Are there more lesbians than gays? Do girls participate more with groupies, wait... How could not genders have equal amount of sex if they are homosexual? My mind just crashed...

That's one hell of a word salad you just puked up. 

 

[Applegarden]

@Bill W Thank you, i like expressing myself this way, don't mind me puking on here, i hope you got whatever you needed, my friend, lets argue about my argument like it means something anyhow, shall we? (Yes, i want some entertainment.) Btw salad is good for you!

[Space]

6 minutes ago, Applegarden said:

Men have less than women... But wait, with who? All the women hookup with very few men? Are there more lesbians than gays? Do girls participate more with groupies, wait... How could not genders have equal amount of sex if they are homosexual? My mind just crashed...

I think the idea is that there are small percentage of men who are having all the sex. So for example you take 100 women and 100 men. Maybe 20 guys are having sex with 80 of the girls. It's not that men are having less sex than women, because you're right that wouldn't work, it's that less men are having sex. At least this is what they think is the case.

[Applegarden]

@Space I mean yeah, seems to be the case, however i can't see why this is important tho, personally, maybe it is tho. I am just clueless.