A question about tolerance to LSD.

[steenadrianmr]

I bought 1600µg of acid on tuesday and dropped 200µg the same night.

On wednesday I dropped 600µg and it didn't feel a whole lot stronger than the 200µg dose did.

My question: If I drop 800µg on saturday night, will the two- to three day break be enough to properly feel the 800µg dose? I know there is going to be a tolerance from the trips before, but the question is really if the two doses adds up my tolerance or will I only get the tolerance from the last dose?

I know these doses are ridicolously high, but I am curious. Thanks in advance!

Also, as I haven't tested the tabs I don't know for certain that it is acid, but the man I am buying it from is a trusted friend of mine that is a fairly experienced psychonaut. From the experience itself I would definitely say it is acid as I have tripped on it for about six times before.

However, the 200µg dose did not give me the expected effects that I remember I have gotten from the other times I have taken 200µg of acid. The 600µg dose felt pretty close to the 200µg one on tuesday except the trip had a different vibe to it.

 When I say effects I mean the somewhat disorienting headspace and visuals. That's how I ''measure'' the strength of the psychedelic.

I should mention that I had a bong-hit after I consumed the 200µg sublingually and a beer after I swallowed it.

Mindset was pretty shaky from my last trip the 27th of August (150µg) as I had a really terrifying trip after meeting with my grandfather who is completely anti-drug, be it tobacco, LSD or hash/weed.

Setting was extremely laid-back. I was hanging out in my ex-girl's apartment with her neighbour's cat who visited us. We had a really good time just playing with the cat and watching a comedy show on the TV. I was hanging out in her couch for most of the time. Could this contribute to me not experiencing the effects to the extent expected?

 

Two questions, but what the hell  Thank you so much for your time.

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh, what a waste of perfectly good acid!

Wait AT LEAST a week between trips, better make it two! Trip alone, and keep your hands off the alcohol... or simply stick the tabs into an envelope and mail them to me; I think I can make somewhat better use of them, haha.

[fridjonk]

@steenadrianmr Why are you eating acid like it's breakfast. You need at least 2 weeks to integrate what was learned on the trip-while also letting the tolerance readjust. You are not doing this for actualization and personal development by the looks of it (without knowing or judging). 

[steenadrianmr]

@fridjonk No, absolutely not. That is what I am aiming for in the future, but I am a bit unclear on how to proceed. As of now all my trips  (2c-b, mushrooms, LSD) have been PURELY recreational. I am easily distracted by the beautiful visions and too excited to trip. All my past experiences have been with friends fucking around on them. The trip I had the 27th of April, the one before the 27th of August me and a friend were talking about non-duality, but it was all pure speculation and playing with cool, flashy ideas.

From my understanding setting intentions before the trip is the way to go. Getting in the mindset of what I want to explore.

For instance, my tobacco addiction. I would like to know more about why I am using Swedish Snus. From my understanding of what I have read on the forum and from Leo's addiction video all addictions stems from me being scared of being all by myself with nothing to do, to fill the ''void'' inside of me.

I would really appreciate a link to where I can find out more how to use psychedelics for personal development or better yet, realize Truth. I have watched Leo's video ''How to use psychedelics for personal development'' a couple of times and I will rewatch it now, but I would still appreciate feedback.

I should also mention that I have been messing with at least 20 different substances that I can remember for the last three years. In chronological order: Hash/weed(2013, daily smoking from about summer of 2016 to present time, however I am trying to quit), 2c-b, oxycodone, MDMA, cocaine, amphetamines, meth (powder, paste, not crystals, never smoked), mushrooms, MDA, tramadol(2017), after this I cannot remember the order of the pills, but diazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam, methylphenidate, zolpidem, LSD, quetiapine, nitrazepam... This is what I can remember on the top of my head. I believe there are a couple more though.

I am currently trying to quit weed after getting busted with mushrooms, LSD and half a kilo of hash in Norway. I haven't been living a sober and lawful life for the last three years. I am seeking help from a psychologist. I was first interested in Leo's content back in 2014 after searching for the definition of Enlightenment, where his first enlightenment video showed up. Watched his videos while playing videogames and sometimes strictly watching the video while paying close attention. 

I am not fulfilled by the way I have been living and I have a bad attitude towards my life at the moment, something I am trying to work through. I am CERTAIN that I am using the acid for escape while masquerading it as some form of self-improvement. I do however feel I am authentically interested in the topics Leo posts, however I am not willing to put down the work.

 

A bit of a ramble, but thank you for reading if you made it this far. I surely appreciate it  

Edited January 23, 2020 by steenadrianmr

[steenadrianmr]

Oh, and I totally forgot to mention that both the trips died almost completely down after about 5 hours after consumption. I could see colourful patterns if I really concentrated on seeing them.

[fridjonk]

@steenadrianmr At least you are recognizing your flaws, that's a good sign of development - although you need to act on them. Its most important that you build a base foundation of knowledge around these things firstly. That means reading the top priority books on Leo's book list, doing the exercises within them. Kind of becoming your own psychologist, because nobody is coming to help you. A psychologist won't save you unless you are willing to fix it yourself. Take responsibility. 

Once you've built a nice foundation and cleaned up your life - No weed for example, a clean diet, meditating and exercising. Watch more of Leo's videos on self-love, spiral dynamics, self-bias and more. Start a rigorous meditation practice and become serious about this. Once you've done all that...

Then you are ready for psychedelics. They will become your most useful tool and your best psychologist. You can use them to help you work out shadow work problems, and reprogram your sub-conscious mind. When you have purified your soul of all your silly human problems, you will start to go deeper and deeper until you maybe realize that you are NOT a human being who lives in Norway on the planet earth. Stay on this forum because you will need guidance in the hardest times and there are bunch of people here who can help.

Wish you all the best 

Edited January 24, 2020 by fridjonk

[steenadrianmr]

@fridjonk Love the comforting words! Thank you!

 

 

[Shadowraix]

There are lsd tolerance calculators online you can Google. They're roughly accurate. You'll feel something, although I find the "magic" is reduced and body load goes up whenever I tripped too close between each other. I'd recommend waiting. 

800 is a big boy dose. Be careful. You just might be kicked to the floor i sure was when I was experimenting with high doses like that. 

You shouldn't bet on it, but awakening experiences can happen by "accident" mine was unintentional and came from a curiosity of experimenting. Do what you feel is right. Sometimes fixing your life first is better, for others, the psychedelics were the push to fix your life. 

Edited January 24, 2020 by Shadowraix

[steenadrianmr]

@Shadowraix @fridjonk  Thank you so much for your interest in giving me solid advice. I would NEVER do 800µg at this time with no tolerance. The only reason I'd take 800µg right now is because I am suspicious that the tabs are not as strong as my dealer told me, plus my tolerance. The largest dose I have done is 200µg, although me and my friend thought it might've been 300µg as the trip was extreme!

I believe the tabs I am currently posessing are not 400µg as told. I did half a tab and did NOT get the expected effects of that dose. I don't know if it's because of the setting, set, wrong dose or something else I am not aware of.

I will probably wait until next weekend as I want to save the acid for several occasions, but I am also extremely eager to do it this saturday night.

Peace my bros!

[fridjonk]

@steenadrianmr I've almost never seen 400µg tabs, not even on the vast dark web. Most high potent tabs are around 180-220 if you buy them on the street. If they are 320-400 they will be a lot more expensive than the normal ones. 

My advice is make it a special occasion, give yourself a little time to think about why you're going to trip and what you want out of it (few days should suffice).  Happy tripping! 

[steenadrianmr]

@fridjonk The thing is, if I had the will to do so, I'd save them for the summer and trip the fuck out in a forest or on a mountain. I LOOOVE nature. As of right now in Norway where I live there's wet snow and the weather switches from rainy, snowy, icy in one day multiple times. I might get a tent and go somewhere. Perhaps I'll loan my grandfather's cabin, I've tripped on shrooms there before. However, I get access to psychedelics perhaps 5-6 times a year, maybe more, so chances are I'll do a trip next weekend in a planned location. I will make sure to do a whole tab this time. I do have quetiapine on hand in case I have to kill the trip.

What are your thoughts on trip-killers? I feel like the bad trip I had when I met my grandfather is the most ''important'' trip I have ever had. The only thing that didn't make me suffer/panic was to stop thinking. Can anybody relate?

[fridjonk]

7 minutes ago, steenadrianmr said:

As of right now in Norway where I live there's wet snow and the weather switches from rainy, snowy, icy in one day multiple times.

Tell me about it, it's the same here in Iceland. People are dying left and right in weather-caused accidents these days.

One of my most favorite trips have been in the freezing cold outside in nature. Specially with a clear night sky and aurora. WOW! 

12 minutes ago, steenadrianmr said:

 

What are your thoughts on trip-killers?

I'm definitely team NO trip killers, I feel that defeats the purpose of a psychedelic trip. You should work through the hardest trips - and they yield the most results in personal development. Also you should not trip in an environment where you "might need" a trip killer, that's just a pre-planed bad trip.  

[steenadrianmr]

@fridjonk Good food for thought. I might get a tent, make a campfire and some hot cocoa or coffee. Probably both  Love you!

[Forestluv]

On 1/23/2020 at 4:40 PM, steenadrianmr said:

I bought 1600µg of acid on tuesday and dropped 200µg the same night.

On wednesday I dropped 600µg and it didn't feel a whole lot stronger than the 200µg dose did.

The rule of thumb is double-dosage on consecutive days. If you took 200ug on tues., 600ug would be roughly the equivalent of 300ug. So it makes sense that it didn't feel much stronger. 

On 1/23/2020 at 4:40 PM, steenadrianmr said:

My question: If I drop 800µg on saturday night, will the two- to three day break be enough to properly feel the 800µg dose? I know there is going to be a tolerance from the trips before, but the question is really if the two doses adds up my tolerance or will I only get the tolerance from the last dose?

No, I full reset is about 12 days. If you did 200ug tues and 600ug wed that is 800ug worth of tolerance. A 2-3 day break would have a small tolerance decline. The 800ug might feel more like 500ug. Yet there are psychological issues. Ingesting this much LSD in a short time can cripple the "magic". I tried to trip about once every 7-10 days and it wasn't sustainable. 

As well, if you have the doses correct - you are dealing with some very high doses and things can get unpredictable. For example, a tolerance calculator may say 800ug would be equivalent to 500ug, yet this are enormous amounts that are leveraged - who knows, it might actually feel like 600-700ug and be way too intense. Or it could feel like 300ug again. . . It's not like you took a 100ug dose and asking about taking 200ug a few days later. 

[fridjonk]

@steenadrianmr Wouldn't recommend caffeine on LSD, but that's just me, love cacao though. 

3 minutes ago, steenadrianmr said:

 Love you!

[steenadrianmr]

@Serotoninluv Thank you for the answer. I am confident I will wait until next weekend. I am also more confident that the tabs I have isn't really 400µg each. I will however do a full tab next time I trip. I've got some thinking to do about where to go and how I should approach the trip. I've read on the forum that one should eat healthy, meditate and set intentions a week or two beforehand. Every day for two weeks that is. 

I love the interest from you all, I truly appreciate it! Just want to let you all know  

[steenadrianmr]

@fridjonk I drink probably a couple cans of coffee every day. That might be a liter and a half to two liters. I should probably clean up my diet, yes. Yep, I definitely should.

[Forestluv]

Just now, steenadrianmr said:

@Serotoninluv I've got some thinking to do about where to go and how I should approach the trip. I've read on the forum that one should eat healthy, meditate and set intentions a week or two beforehand. Every day for two weeks that is. 

The good news is, you have a relative sense of dosage. You know that "200ug" is underwhelming. A 10 day break is nearly a full reset.

I agree that the week prior to a trip, it's a good thing to eat well, exercise, meditate etc. A general sense of calm. If I've spent a week stressed out and behind on a hundred things, the trip doesn't usually go as well. Some people like to set specific intentions. Perhaps a question about which direction to take to life. That resonates with some, yet not so much with me. I resonate more with general themes like "please reveal to me blocks from me going deeper", or I may be contemplating something like "how does form-formless?". Or I may be working on something like improving my empathic abilities. Sometimes the theme of the week arises in the trip, other times not. I try to stay humble and be open to whatever lessons arise.

Mindset is important, yet so is setting. Generally, I think good setting are a place that I am comfortable and familiar with. Nature works as well. . . I would recommend having several options for activities. For example, I may plan to sit and meditate and that just isn't working and some dark energy arises. I may feel an impulse to move. Changing the room and activity can have a big impact. For example, heading to my bedroom and listening to music for a bit. 

Having people in the setting adds an unknown variable. Some people do fine with it, yet when I'm on a strong trip, people can add in an energy that can be challenging. Especially during the come-up and peak. During the comedown and afterglow, I love being around people.   

[steenadrianmr]

@Shadowraix

Just want to update: I did the 800µg yesterday at around 10:40 PM after work. I didn't take all the advices to heart, but I will store it in my drawer of advices  I DO NOT regret.

I will also buy another 4000µg that I can enjoy in the future. Now it's time for a break obviously.

@Serotoninluv I can only presume that if the tabs were 400µg each, I would get the effect of 500µg as you suggested.

I should also note that I did not set any intentions in a serious manner. I went straight to my ex's apartment, dropped the acid and waited while thinking of what I wanted from the trip.

Set: Pretty excited, a little bit nervous about me going to shit myself and my head was pretty spread from the day's experiences.

Setting: same as before. My ex, her neighbour's cat in her small apartment.

When the trip came on I felt present, I was able to speak in a near sober manner.

The visuals were intense relative to my previous experiences. Everything was vibrating, the room was changing colors, patterns everywhere. When my ex walked around in the room it looked as if she ''phaseshifted'' (tracers doing their thing) across the room.

I spent about 3 hours cuddling with the cat. His name is Buster and he's probably the most chill cat I have ever met. He was licking my hair while I was cuddling and petting him all while listening to Sphongle and other similar music I have tripped to before.

We went outside for a bit while she had a cigarette and the snow looked amazing, as did the small city I live in (about 25k people living here). Lights blinking everywhere in different colors, treetops twirling and dancing.

Thank you!