How to stop homosexuality?

[Buba]

49 minutes ago, Consept said:

@Buba

Right but you do know that people with ocd are convinced that they are let's say in this case gay, they are looking for reasons why they might be gay constantly. As I understand it if you were actually gay you'd more worry about coming out to your family and friends and whether you'd be accepted in society, the worry isn't actually if you're gay or not. 

Let me ask you this, have you ever been really worried about something before? Something that was just on your mind constantly and you couldn't shift it no matter what you did? 

I fantasized passive sex with a man and enjoyed it.

yes I have OCD since childhood

[Consept]

OK so youve had ocd since childhood, if you dont mind me asking, what were the themes of the other OCD thoughts youve had in the past? and if i asked you whether they were real at the time would you have said yes?

[Nahm]

2 hours ago, Buba said:

Thank you very much, guys. I will try to accept myself. I dont have any other option, anyway. I hope this self tormenting voice will shut up.

Of course it will. The two are the same.

I know you’re awesomeness. If I think anything to the contrary...it doesn’t feel any better to me than it does to you, because truth feels great. You’re awesome. 
 

[Shin]

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

You’re awesome. 

 

That's an understatement ?

[Matt23]

might help...  

 

[Buba]

Thank you all for your kind words and support.

Please guys, still if you know any method, medicine, surgery, ongoing research and etc to stop homosexuality, even at the expense of my general sexuality, share it here.

I know I seem weird to you. But to be attracted to men really harms my connections, communications, my social being. 

[Consept]

Bro, last comment I make on this but this is 100% hocd. You have said you actually have ocd which makes you worry, get reassurance, ruminate about things that are not true. A thought has triggered you and now you can't stop thinking about it until you get some certainty, you are trying to solve a thought, is any of this familiar to you? 

If you talked to anyone who knew about ocd they would 100% tell you that you this was an ocd worry as others literally have on this thread. 

Either way the treatment for this is acceptance, if you are gay which you're not, you'd accept that, if you're not gay you have to accept the possibility that you might be gay. 

Please really consider what I'm saying, I don't know why you're so resistant to this possibility considering you actually have ocd, it's very strange. I'm trying to save you a lot of time praying the gay away or whatever you'll inevitably end up trying to do 

[Buba]

17 hours ago, Consept said:

Bro, last comment I make on this but this is 100% hocd. You have said you actually have ocd which makes you worry, get reassurance, ruminate about things that are not true. A thought has triggered you and now you can't stop thinking about it until you get some certainty, you are trying to solve a thought, is any of this familiar to you? 

If you talked to anyone who knew about ocd they would 100% tell you that you this was an ocd worry as others literally have on this thread. 

Either way the treatment for this is acceptance, if you are gay which you're not, you'd accept that, if you're not gay you have to accept the possibility that you might be gay. 

Please really consider what I'm saying, I don't know why you're so resistant to this possibility considering you actually have ocd, it's very strange. I'm trying to save you a lot of time praying the gay away or whatever you'll inevitably end up trying to do 

I feel that femininity in my body, I see it is real. I see over therapy I release repressed gayness. It is very obvious. Unfortunately, it is not just OCD.

[Buba]

I know it is beyond human’s control, I know it is not a disease. But I dont want to be gay. I dont want to be attracted to men. This is collapse of my world. Some people are born man and then they change their sex with surgery to become a woman. And people say it is normal. But when somebody wants to change his sexual orientation, he is lynched, “accept your gayness”.

If science was not hampered by people who opposed the idea of changing sexual orientation with medicine, if such research topics were not banned because they dont fit in current liberal political rhetoric, science might have already found a medicine or the like to change sexual orientation.

[Matt23]

Some simple meditative breathing or holotropic breathwork (Leo's video = Shamanic breathwork) might help.

What's your favorite thing to do?  Maybe simply enjoying something would help for now.  

Is there anything in your life, perhaps from childhood, that gave you comfort and which you can go back to?  An activity, movie, food, it doesn't matter.  Maybe you enjoy a spot in nature or with beautiful views and landscapes?  Or creating art, playing music, or sports?

[Shin]

7 hours ago, Buba said:

I know it is beyond human’s control, I know it is not a disease. But I dont want to be gay. I dont want to be attracted to men. This is collapse of my world. Some people are born man and then they change their sex with surgery to become a woman. And people say it is normal. But when somebody wants to change his sexual orientation, he is lynched, “accept your gayness”.

If science was not hampered by people who opposed the idea of changing sexual orientation with medicine, if such research topics were not banned because they dont fit in current liberal political rhetoric, science might have already found a medicine or the like to change sexual orientation.

What you want is irrelevant if it is not genuine.

Your rejection of your possible homosexuality isn't gonna change anything if you're truly homosexual.

That would be like wanting to be a doplhin when you are a man.

You can't, unless you're in South Park.

[Buba]

57 minutes ago, Shin said:

What you want is irrelevant if it is not genuine.

Your rejection of your possible homosexuality isn't gonna change anything if you're truly homosexual.

That would be like wanting to be a doplhin when you are a man.

You can't, unless you're in South Park.

But people become woman with surgery and why is it considered genuine?

[Consept]

10 minutes ago, Buba said:

But people become woman with surgery and why is it considered genuine?

You're getting it mixed up I feel. Using your example of a man who wants to be a woman, the man deep down feels like they are a woman and so wants their external appearance to match what they feel internally and so they change. 

What you're saying is that internally you feel that your gay and you want to change how you feel internally rather than externally. Do you see how this is pretty much impossible? It's like saying I feel like a human internally but I don't want to feel that so how can I change it? Or like I like ice cream but my society forbids it how can I not like ice cream? Well you can't you'll always like ice cream you can just stop yourself eating it, kind of 

 

[Buba]

26 minutes ago, Consept said:

You're getting it mixed up I feel. Using your example of a man who wants to be a woman, the man deep down feels like they are a woman and so wants their external appearance to match what they feel internally and so they change. 

What you're saying is that internally you feel that your gay and you want to change how you feel internally rather than externally. Do you see how this is pretty much impossible? It's like saying I feel like a human internally but I don't want to feel that so how can I change it? Or like I like ice cream but my society forbids it how can I not like ice cream? Well you can't you'll always like ice cream you can just stop yourself eating it, kind of 

 

Internal feelings are genuine, but body not? You may want to change body, but to want to change internal feelings (which theoretically possible) is not normal?

And what about pedophiles? They are attracted to children. So it is ok? It is genuine internal feeling, there is no need to be disturbed about it.

[Shin]

1 hour ago, Buba said:

But people become woman with surgery and why is it considered genuine?

It is not really the same thing, because it's a physical change to be more in accordance with whom they feel inside.

That's just my interpretation, but I think it's because a masculine woman thinks she needs to have a masculine body to be her true self.

It's a misconception of sexual polarity for me, as if you couldn't be a masculine woman without a penis.

Anyway, those people embrace change, that's not what you are doing.

You reject liking dicks because you fear what people would think of you, and it is in conflict with the beliefs you created about your dream life.

Your dream life is when you are in total accordance to your genuine desire though.

[Consept]

51 minutes ago, Buba said:

Internal feelings are genuine, but body not? You may want to change body, but to want to change internal feelings (which theoretically possible) is not normal?

And what about pedophiles? They are attracted to children. So it is ok? It is genuine internal feeling, there is no need to be disturbed about it.

The issue isnt whether wanting to change your internal feelings is not normal, its more that its not really possible. 

Pedophiles are a good example because if any person would want to change how they feel inside it would be pedophiles but yet how many pedophiles do you hear of being 'cured'? The treatment of pedophiles as i understand it, is to accept that they feel like that and learn how to not act on it, in a lot of cases this is not possible which is why some have to be locked away as it could be a big risk for society. Even they though they know they will get persecuted, arrested, hated by society, there is nothing they can do to change how they are internally it is what it is. 

In your case, you believe you will be hated by your society which is what youre worried about but regardless of what you do ie hide it, masturbate to gay porn in secret, whatever, you can not change who you are fundamentally if you are indeed gay. Its not the same as pedophiles as its not illegal to be gay, pedophiles would love for their thing not to be illegal but obviously that would never work.

What people on the forum are saying is that yes, you can do gay conversion therapy or whatever but ultimately you wont be able to change if you are gay, you maybe able to pretend and not act on it but youd still be a gay person not acting on it. I have a strong suspicion this is ocd behavior even in the questions youre asking but i realise you dont see it that way 

 

[bejapuskas]

@Consept  Have you even gone through this yourself? 

 

[Buba]

9 minutes ago, Consept said:

The issue isnt whether wanting to change your internal feelings is not normal, its more that its not really possible. 

Pedophiles are a good example because if any person would want to change how they feel inside it would be pedophiles but yet how many pedophiles do you hear of being 'cured'? The treatment of pedophiles as i understand it, is to accept that they feel like that and learn how to not act on it, in a lot of cases this is not possible which is why some have to be locked away as it could be a big risk for society. Even they though they know they will get persecuted, arrested, hated by society, there is nothing they can do to change how they are internally it is what it is. 

In your case, you believe you will be hated by your society which is what youre worried about but regardless of what you do ie hide it, masturbate to gay porn in secret, whatever, you can not change who you are fundamentally if you are indeed gay. Its not the same as pedophiles as its not illegal to be gay, pedophiles would love for their thing not to be illegal but obviously that would never work.

What people on the forum are saying is that yes, you can do gay conversion therapy or whatever but ultimately you wont be able to change if you are gay, you maybe able to pretend and not act on it but youd still be a gay person not acting on it. I have a strong suspicion this is ocd behavior even in the questions youre asking but i realise you dont see it that way 

 

I wonder why people are surprised that somebody is disturbed by internal gay feelings. Some pedophiles also are disturbed by their internal pedophile feelings and beg God to take those feelings away. Not because of fear of prison, but they also feel guilty and disgusted.

I feel disgusted because of my internal feelings and would like to change it. But people are surprised that I want to change it. It is impossible, but still I had hope and asked people here if anybody knows how to stop it.

Gays actively oppose any research on this topic, calling it “homophobic”. But Everybody has a right to not want to have these internal feelings. Some gays dont want change, some want. These researchs are very important.

[Shin]

16 minutes ago, Buba said:

I wonder why people are surprised that somebody is disturbed by internal gay feelings. Some pedophiles also are disturbed by their internal pedophile feelings and beg God to take those feelings away. Not because of fear of prison, but they also feel guilty and disgusted.

I feel disgusted because of my internal feelings and would like to change it. But people are surprised that I want to change it. It is impossible, but still I had hope and asked people here if anybody knows how to stop it.

Gays actively oppose any research on this topic, calling it “homophobic”. But Everybody has a right to not want to have these internal feelings. Some gays dont want change, some want. These researchs are very important.

Those disgusting feelings are ONLY there because you have beliefs about how gayness is not right, not normal.

I too questioned my sexuality at some point, and it was also disgusting, until I accepted it.

It doesn't really matter if you're gay or not, what matter is that you have to stop saying in your head that certain things are ultimately right or wrong.

Then if you like to deepthroat a man or not is irrelevant, you'd do it with 0 shame, and it would be the saame for everything activities in your life.

You'd be free ?

[Consept]

44 minutes ago, bejapuskas said:

@Consept  Have you even gone through this yourself? 

 

Not exactly the same but ive had ocd since i was young and also the theme of homosexual ocd (hocd). I've also talked to other people with ocd and how op sounds is exactly like them, i maybe wrong though