Orgasm hangover

[Amilaer---]

Heyyy,

Day after having sex or masturbation I am having a very hard time especially with concentration, lack of energy and being extra sleepy. Additionally I am less creative and less chatty.
Have you ever experienced it? How you fight it? Any supplements/nootropics/techniques to overcome that?

I get so freaked out about this that I am avoiding sex if I have an important meeting next day or I want to be full of energy.

Thanks for any tip,
A

Edited January 18, 2020 by Amilaer---

[LaucherJunge]

That's just the side effect of ejaculation which is completely natural, seems like you are simply very sensitive to it or have a low tolerance so to speak.

You should just try experimenting with some tantra and karezza, having Sex without ejaculation or masturbating without ejaculation. You actually can have orgasms without ejaculation if you really get some practice in these kinds of things. But also I think that these side effects might lessen all together just by using these techniques and still ejaculating.

[Meetjoeblack]

Read Way of the superior man by David Deida. Its a superb read. There's a lot of arts about not releasing during. Emphasis on the breathe and dispersing the energy throughout the body. I am reading and learning about it but it is uncommon. 

If you sit around and fap all day, you are lowering testosterone and just messing within yourself. You can see that same thing in betas. Guys who land their little cherish, they ditch family and friends because they got a happy bubble. You see that in guys who lift with their gf. When you got 18x the testosterone, unless she's on gear, theirs no comparison for the push. 

Do Leo Gura purpose program. Go workout. Start a business. Get creative. There's a lot more than fap or sex. It clearly had its purpose. 

[Leo Gura]

Odd, I never get this.

Maybe you have to optimize your health/diet/supplementation.

Fatigue and concentration issues have a slew of possible causes. A bit of sex shouldn't be one of them.

[Amilaer---]

@LaucherJunge Gonna read about it, seems impossible from current POV that's why I want to read about it even more.

@Meetjoeblack No one is fapping all day / thanks for suggesting the book, will take a look on it

@Leo Gura Gonna go with reviewing my diet, I have read somewhere that it could be caused by deficiency of vitamine D. 

Love to u guys, thanks for sharing ur thoughts

[Shiva99]

Yes, pretty common phenomena. You might want to read the book: "cupid's poisoned arrow", by Marnia Robinson. It explains the "hangover" in detail, and why it's happening. The fix for this would be Karezza ( sex without ejaculation ). 

[Amilaer---]

@Shiva99 Have you mastered it? What is your experience?

[Shiva99]

On 22-1-2020 at 8:30 PM, Amilaer--- said:

@Shiva99 Have you mastered it? What is your experience?

Nope. I'm still having problems with porn myself. I get the same hangover after watching it.

[trancedreamer]

On 18.1.2020 at 7:26 PM, Amilaer--- said:

Heyyy,

Day after having sex or masturbation I am having a very hard time especially with concentration, lack of energy and being extra sleepy. Additionally I am less creative and less chatty.
Have you ever experienced it? How you fight it? Any supplements/nootropics/techniques to overcome that?

I get so freaked out about this that I am avoiding sex if I have an important meeting next day or I want to be full of energy.

Thanks for any tip,
A

I've made similar experiences. I often feel unconcentrated, a bit more nervous and shy, less active and feel like I've got more brainfog / overthink more often after Sex and Masturbation.

I've somehow accepted that trait and just keep going with my daily Progress.

Here are some Habits I try to follow daily to stay focused and in the flow

Meditation, Exercising, cold showering, eating Healthy Food, going out of my comfort zone daily, listening to relaxing Music and writing down my thoughts ( Journaling)

[Amilaer---]

@trancedreamer Thanks for putting in your two cents here. Nice, from me (if you still have this problem) I can suggest checking vitamin D, I found even more posts that it could happen due to D deficiency. 

[electroBeam]

I actually don't get any fuzziness, lack of concentration, lack of creativity after sex. I'm surprised others on here do, so much that Karezza was invented. At the most I don't feel like having sex again, and I might experience sleepiness if it's at night time. I wonder if I'm just not sensitive enough to it, or if the whole thing is a placebo.

 

[Shiva99]

58 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

I actually don't get any fuzziness, lack of concentration, lack of creativity after sex. I'm surprised others on here do, so much that Karezza was invented. At the most I don't feel like having sex again, and I might experience sleepiness if it's at night time. I wonder if I'm just not sensitive enough to it, or if the whole thing is a placebo.

 

Have you ever tried abstaining for a long time (1-3 months), so you have a framefork of reference to base this conclusion on? I thought the same thing, untill i abstained for a month and "relapsed". 

[Amilaer---]

I  got a peak of energy and concentration roughly one week after ejaculation, then it's stable or even a small decline. 

@electroBeam I thought about placebo as well. However, no matter what I do, always the next day striving for coffee is huge (to get back the same level of concentration). Now I replaced it with some nootropics. 

[Pallero]

There's this thing called "post-coital tristesse" or PCT. Maybe look into that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-coital_tristesse

[Amilaer---]

@Pallero "Post-coital tristesse (PCT) is the feeling of sadness, anxiety, agitation or aggression after sexual intercourse, mostly in males." - none of it was mentioned in our posts. 

Still thanks for trying.

[Pallero]

15 hours ago, Amilaer--- said:

@Pallero "Post-coital tristesse (PCT) is the feeling of sadness, anxiety, agitation or aggression after sexual intercourse, mostly in males." - none of it was mentioned in our posts. 

Still thanks for trying.

Well, you said you were struggling with lack of energy and tristesse loosely translates as depression, so I thought I'd give it a go.

Also you mentioned lack of concentration and that's basically a form of anxiety.

If it doesn't resonate, that's okay. Although you can see that from my perspective, I saw a connection there.

Edited January 31, 2020 by Pallero