Transmissions and RASA as a means to facilitate awakening/ Enlightenment

[Inliytened1]

@VeganAwake you do realize that by using your own logic you are using "spiritual ego" right now?

"Awakening and Enlightenment is completely misunderstood on this thread?"

You are trying to change or correct something that is already perfect ?

 

 

 

[LfcCharlie4]

@Inliytened1 lol. 
 

@VeganAwake by your logic anyone that does anything is from Ego. 
 

I don’t care about LOCs, I merely use it as a model, and I’m just trying to point out awakening goes deeper then Eckhart, Parsons, Fred etc, Not all awakenings are the same depth, and the recent posts are trying to illustrate “life after awakening.”

I have not once said there is a me or a you, all there is is The Self.

but it often comes across you subtly reject the human experience, and believe if one wants to live a normal life this is somehow ego.

not all motivation and desire comes from the same place, not all are Ego, wanting to receive for the self alone is of course ego. 
 

by your definition Leo creating Actualized.org is spiritual ego, and any teacher wanting to help people is ego, you’re basically defining everything as ego. 
 

In terms of enlightenment I don’t disagree with you. 
 

To me Enlightenment is the realisation of The Self/ awarensss/ the absolute being all there is, and then a complete acceptance of whatever arises without any resistance to the Now.

but as I said there isn’t just 1 awakening and there’s depths to this work, self realised masters like Rupert and Nisgardatta often talk about “stages” of understanding.

And, I asked are you telling me if someone calls your name you won’t turn around and do you have no desire at all then? 

 

 

[VeganAwake]

18 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@VeganAwake you do realize that by using your own logic you are using "spiritual ego" right now?

"Awakening and Enlightenment is completely misunderstood on this thread?"

You are trying to change or correct something that is already perfect ?

 

 

 

Wait are you trying to correct something as well  ?... 

[Display_Name]

@VeganAwake We all know this. What are you arguing? We're talking relative talking points here so drop the act please. Thanks

[VeganAwake]

54 minutes ago, Display_Name said:

@VeganAwake We all know this. What are you arguing? We're talking relative talking points here so drop the act please. Thanks

Oh okay thanks rodger that...❤

[cetus]

@LfcCharlie4 I wanted to take this opportunity to share with the rest of the community what you told me in a PM. I thought it was worth sharing. Hope you don't mind. 

"Whatever helps people realize the absolute I don’t care, if it’s psyches, mediation, RASA, meditation, self inquiry, any method I honestly don’t care.

all I care about is people Realizing there absolute nature and experiencing the peace and happiness it brings"

 

[Ananta]

5 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@LfcCharlie4 said-

all I care about is people Realizing there absolute nature and experiencing the peace and happiness it brings

❤?❤

[Inliytened1]

@cetus56 he seems to be a young man wise beyond his years.

 

[VeganAwake]

Yes it's difficult to explain that everything is perfect... but you can still wake up from the illusion.

99.9% will never understand including the Mods.

That's why it's not judging but sharing.

There is no right or wrong.❤

The young confident bucks won't get it.

The old stuck in their ways hippies won't get it either.

The middle pathers have a chance.

My goodness it's a lonely road... good luck TROOPS...❤

 

 

 

 

[LfcCharlie4]

@cetus56 thank you for sharing that, as I said LOCs, RASA I merely use them as suggestions as it it whats worked for me, I can’t really comment on Psyches as I have minimal experience, but if that is someone’s path and it’s working I’m happy for them. 
 

At the end of the day it’s all about truth and happiness, and luckily realization of the self kills 2 birds with 1 stone ?

(@VeganAwake don’t worry I’d never actually kill a bird, also Vegan my friend, in fact it’s “Veganuary” over here in the UK?) 

And, yes everything, in every moment is perfect as it is no matter what is happening, life is unfolding perfectly in every moment. And, since there is only Now, nothing has ever really happened, just THIS. 

[LfcCharlie4]

@Inliytened1 Thank you, I appreciate that

[VeganAwake]

2 hours ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

 

(@VeganAwake don’t worry I’d never actually kill a bird, also Vegan my friend, in fact it’s “Veganuary” over here in the UK?) 

And, yes everything, in every moment is perfect as it is no matter what is happening, life is unfolding perfectly in every moment. And, since there is only Now, nothing has ever really happened, just THIS. 

What now we're talkin mate this is making me extremely happy...❤

Are they selling vegan food...?

No matter I'm coming there for holiday how big is your apartment I have one wife and three boys(all vegan)...?

PM me ur address is 14-19 Jan ? ?

 

 

 

 

[LfcCharlie4]

@VeganAwake Well it’s like a challenge so most of the major restaurants and pubs are jumping in on its fun! 
 

haha If you, your wife and 3 kids can fit in my room then why not ???

also, I’ve always wondered, what’s awakening like in terms of having a family? 
 

I have a girlfriend but kids and a family is a whole different ballgame, like how do you approach parenting knowing your Kids are you, yet when they’re causing havoc, definitely something I want in the future also! 

[Display_Name]

1 hour ago, AwakenedSoul444 said:

I've tried the RASA transmissions, one real one on a 25$ satsang which was last year. And about 4 times I've listened to the one at the end of this video . It didn't give me any results at all, after the real one I felt a little bit of peace for about 3 days but then it faded. Now all I have is sometimes for a second or two I seem to see everything as bits of information . I guess it's only for people who are serious about the path, I'm kind of lazy so it didn't do anything for me.

 

It's certainly subtle. It may have moved some things in the background. I see it as a little boost, but most of my trust and energy goes into my own practices. The youtube videos won't do anything. Has to be real time. 

Edited January 5, 2020 by Display_Name

[VeganAwake]

10 minutes ago, AwakenedSoul444 said:

How do you know what LOC you are?

 

 

Well they probably won't rate you too low... that might insult you and turn away the paying customer...

My guess is somewhere in the low-to-mid 500's so they can work you up and collect payment. ❤

 

 

[LfcCharlie4]

@VeganAwake you do know they reject working with quite a lot of people who aren’t at the end of seeking, hence the need for an introductory session. 

However, as the saying goes when the student is ready the teacher will appear. 
 

@Display_Name yep

@AwakenedSoul444 as I’ve said it’s not a magic pill, I’ve been working with Ananda for 8-9 months now, 1-2 RASAs a month. But beyond the RASA there is work clearing out blockages, whatever is holding you back, questions you have etc, as well as in Anandas case Enneagram work. 
 

From your post it seems your chasing experiences and spiritual “highs” you won’t get that from RASA and that’s not what awakening is, a true awakening is not merely about highs and experiences, while these are great, if you just chase these youll forever be on the hamster wheel. 
 

This is why seeming is often compared to an addiction, you use the teachings or whatever to get a “spiritual high” 

[VeganAwake]

@LfcCharlie4  Im sure that some of their material can be helpful.

I've listened to several of their videos including their Enlightenment video.

It really sounds like they're trying to repackage spiritual self-help material and sell it as a process of Awakening.

When I watched their Enlightenment video... I was really surprised at how hesitant they seemed to even discuss the topic. In my observation they appeared to just dance around any meaningful discussions about what enlightenment actually is. I couldn't even finish the video it was ridiculous.

Now obviously Enlightenment is a tough topic to discuss but that would play right into their benefit of assisting people to awaken when they're not even really sure what it consists of.

They seem very loving and authentic... I can tell they truly care about helping people. 

I'm here to help as well, which is why I share some of my thoughts and opinions...

(Update)

I just watched their video again..

Now they discussed recognizing the true self as the absolute.. but they completely left out recognizing Maya the illusion of the self (most important part in my opinion).. and how the egoic self agenda will keep you running on the hamster wheel seeking outside of yourself to feel complete. Basically the understanding that your mind is controlling you. 

See without having this experience( completely seeing through the illusion) you would just tack on the knowledge that you are the absolute and can become a very bad spiritual ego. 

To not mention that in an Enlightenment discussion would be a major red flag in my opinion and a clear misunderstanding of the whole picture of Awakening or enlightenment.

Now I'm not saying they don't understand this or mention it elsewhere I'm just saying what I noticed from watching their basic videos ❤

 

Edited January 7, 2020 by VeganAwake

[LfcCharlie4]

@VeganAwake Read 1000 and Anandas Intimacy with the Infinite, these will both show you what they’re truly saying. 
 

As I keep saying it goes beyond seeing maya as the illusion, and their content has nothing to do with looking outside yourself to feel complete. 
 

Like I keep saying full circle means

Non Duality = Duality.

This very world is the self, is heaven, is the Buddha Planet. Therefore, there is no need to subtly reject it, it is a play. 
 

We can agree to disagree on this, as we just go round in circles, but I feel reading both their books will truly tell you more about them.

Considering Anandas comes from a Multi-Millionaire Conservative Jewish background (she literally doesn’t speak to most her family because of how they treated her) that she gave up to truly be herself and allow her awakening to flower, I do think you’re being very unfair. As I said, read both their books and then judge, or it’s like watching 5 minutes of a film and rating it on IMDB. 

[LfcCharlie4]

I’m also not trying to belittle you or adjust awakening to my own experience. 
 

As I’ve said I’ve been where you are, I’ve had the No Self awakening and seeing the world as an illusion, but 1 awakening often isn’t the final truth, while any sort of Non Dual awakening is incredible of course, it does go deeper than No Self. 
 

It gets to the point where THIS is literally it, and guess what? THIS includes dirty old duality, meaning this very world is also it, as is literally EVERYTHING, THIS has to include everything as The Self is everything.

[VeganAwake]

26 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

I’m also not trying to belittle you or adjust awakening to my own experience. 
 

As I’ve said I’ve been where you are, I’ve had the No Self awakening and seeing the world as an illusion, but 1 awakening often isn’t the final truth, while any sort of Non Dual awakening is incredible of course, it does go deeper than No Self. 
 

It gets to the point where THIS is literally it, and guess what? THIS includes dirty old duality, meaning this very world is also it, as is literally EVERYTHING, THIS has to include everything as The Self is everything.

Yes we are definitely going around in circles.

I think it can all be chalked up to just sharing different opinions.

No need to even call it a disagreement there's a kernel of Truth and everything. Let's just leave it at that ❤

I am still your friend and I'm always here to chat ... These good deep conversations is really when the best learning takes place?

 

Edited January 7, 2020 by VeganAwake