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the benefit of being dictator and dictatorship system in individual and nation? what are your thoughts? 

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Benefits are for fulfilling your short-term needs for sex, food, money, status, drugs, etc if you’re the dictator. Long-term benefits are limited because you can be overthrown and killed. For everyone else’s needs benefits are almost non-existent, instead being replaced with countless negatives.

On the whole dictatorship is a very low-consciousness political system. If you’re serious about self-actualising and raising consciousness it is to be avoided at all costs. 

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“All you need is Love” - John Lennon

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It's super efficient, as you don't really have to spend time making sure everyone are on board with it. You can just implement whatever needs to be done, without having to spend years fighting over the issue.


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You don't know? This is something you should know. Honestly, go read some history or contemplate for 5 min. 


“Many talk like philosophers yet live like fools.” — Proverb

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Just read a book on Stalin. Fuckin amazing how such an incompetent delusional man ran that nation and won a world war without running the whole thing into the ground. 

 

He literally went into shock when the nazis invaded and hid in his office for two weeks.  

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Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia. Dictatorships where very bad things happened. But when the dictators were overthrown, the forces which the dictators were keeping in check were free to create their own havoc. This is also the West's dilemma in Syria: do we support the rebels against the Assad regime, only to face many years of a bloody "peacekeeping" mission? Yes dictators are awful but we need to understand the culture well to know what are the likely alternatives. 

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There are pros and cons to most things.  China has universal healthcare, builds infrastructure faster than any other country in the world, the high speed rail system is an example.   Affordable alternative to traveling over planes and in many ways faster.  In Russia, there isnt a student debt problem and a majority of the people have a university degree.  Their government debt is one of the lowest in the world.  Singapore is ruled by a majority party and is one of the least corrupt countries in the world according to SD.  Certainly, in the three countries I mentioned are flawed in many ways but many other countries like America also have their problems.  

Im not sure the countries I mentioned are considered dictatorships, so maybe a better question is, what are the benefits of having or being ruled by a single party?

Having a benevolent ruler can be a good thing if such a person like Sadhguru was the ruler. That country would thrive.  The major issue would be his heirs proceeding him would create atrocities.  If not his children then his grandchildren.    

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On 28/12/2019 at 7:07 AM, Conscious life said:

the benefit of being dictator and dictatorship system in individual and nation? what are your thoughts? 

Read the Gulag Archipelago, man's search for meaning etc. Not a good time. Its absurd when people push Communism and or socialism.

BECAUSE it worked so well before. Only ego and arrogance can argue otherwise. 

 

 

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On 12/31/2019 at 0:54 PM, Tanz said:

There are pros and cons to most things.  China has universal healthcare, builds infrastructure faster than any other country in the world, the high speed rail system is an example.   Affordable alternative to traveling over planes and in many ways faster.  In Russia, there isnt a student debt problem and a majority of the people have a university degree.  Their government debt is one of the lowest in the world.  Singapore is ruled by a majority party and is one of the least corrupt countries in the world according to SD.  Certainly, in the three countries I mentioned are flawed in many ways but many other countries like America also have their problems.  

I'm not sure your examples are correct. I've lived in China and there was certainly no universal healthcare. I'm not sure how true it is that Russia has low government debt; it might be, but if so that wouldn't so much about the actual health of the economy, as there would be so much corruption that billions of dollars that should be going to the public are instead being haemorraged to the oligarchs. Also keep in mind government debt isnt' necessarily a bad thing, so long as the debt is being used to fund high-quality public projects that will create massive returns on investment.

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Im not sure the countries I mentioned are considered dictatorships, so maybe a better question is, what are the benefits of having or being ruled by a single party?

Having a benevolent ruler can be a good thing if such a person like Sadhguru was the ruler. That country would thrive.  The major issue would be his heirs proceeding him would create atrocities.  If not his children then his grandchildren.    

It can be tempting to think that if an "Enlightened Despot" came into a country who know what was best for everyone, things would just work well, but this ultimately can never be true just based on how collective ego and social dynamics work. Even the most conscious, enlightened leader would preside over much corruption and oppression if their power was unaccountable, even if they didn't desire it. It might not even be themselves doing the corruption, it could be just the people who work for them with lower levels of consciousness who abuse their closeness to authority to benefit themselves at the expense of everyone else.

Ultimately, and it sounds boring, but democracy will always be the most conscious and effective form of government. Because democracy doesn't just mean "leaders are elected", it also means that the society itself has a strong cultural attitude of self-governance, that people take a conscious effort to be engaged in their political process, that citizens are informed and knowledgeable about the issues, and so on. Look at this tweet by Bernie Sanders - this is the sort of attitude we need to cultivate in our societies in order to create the most effective and conscious governance possible.

 


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