psycadelic researcher career choice

[TheSomeBody]

i starting to realize that i want to be a researcher of psycadelics. now i am learning (first year)philosophy and psycology and i am thinking about lerning cognition science but i am not sure if this is the science that would help alot. 

should i aim to cognition or should i go to clinical psycology?

[Matt23]

Which one fascinates or makes you most excited?

[TheSomeBody]

6 hours ago, Matt23 said:

Which one fascinates or makes you most excited?

for now cognition but i am afraid that it wouldnt help my career because most of what i read is neurology and clincal psycology

[Matt23]

It sounds to me like you fear pursuing the thing you are most interested in because you think it won't have as much material benefit.  

Do you think it's possible for you to develop so much mastery and knowledge in cognition, since you're passionate about it (seemingly... maybe your not), that in the long-run it would outshine any successes you would have had in the mainstream domains of neurology and clinical psychology?

I'd say go with what you're most interested or passionate about since, I think, in the long-run you'll increase your odds of success because you have genuine inner passion for it (aka fuel).

Also, what about exploring cognition for a while and just seeing where it takes you?  You might discover something new that others overlook since they're all focused on neurology or other more popular domains.  Or you might satiate that interest and then move on to something else.  But you'll have that foundation from all the knowledge you gained exploring cognition which may come in handy later on down the road.  And, since others probably won't have that cognitive background (since you seem to say it's not as popular), you might get some sort of creative or intellectual edge on others; a different perspective to solve some problem or something. 

Another way to look at it is that you may have more success with something less popular (and perhaps, therefore, more niche) since nobody is doing it.  You could be like a pioneer.  Blazing new trails.  Exploring new territories. etc.  

I'm trying to push you towards doing what most interests you.  But, it might be wise to consider other strategies... who knows, it might be better to do things you don't find as interesting now and use it as a bridge for later.  

I'd advise to notice where fear comes in or "I can'ts".  Those could be signs that you should do that thing.

 

[TheSomeBody]

13 hours ago, Matt23 said:

It sounds to me like you fear pursuing the thing you are most interested in because you think it won't have as much material benefit.  

Do you think it's possible for you to develop so much mastery and knowledge in cognition, since you're passionate about it (seemingly... maybe your not), that in the long-run it would outshine any successes you would have had in the mainstream domains of neurology and clinical psychology?

I'd say go with what you're most interested or passionate about since, I think, in the long-run you'll increase your odds of success because you have genuine inner passion for it (aka fuel).

Also, what about exploring cognition for a while and just seeing where it takes you?  You might discover something new that others overlook since they're all focused on neurology or other more popular domains.  Or you might satiate that interest and then move on to something else.  But you'll have that foundation from all the knowledge you gained exploring cognition which may come in handy later on down the road.  And, since others probably won't have that cognitive background (since you seem to say it's not as popular), you might get some sort of creative or intellectual edge on others; a different perspective to solve some problem or something. 

Another way to look at it is that you may have more success with something less popular (and perhaps, therefore, more niche) since nobody is doing it.  You could be like a pioneer.  Blazing new trails.  Exploring new territories. etc.  

I'm trying to push you towards doing what most interests you.  But, it might be wise to consider other strategies... who knows, it might be better to do things you don't find as interesting now and use it as a bridge for later.  

I'd advise to notice where fear comes in or "I can'ts".  Those could be signs that you should do that thing.

 

umm moneywise you can get lots of money if you know cognition...

contrebutionwise i might not contrebut as i would do in other profetionals.

maybe i should ask maps for better understanding?

[Joseph ICU]

https://maps.org/resources/students/181-so-you-want-to-be-a-psychedelic-researcher

Hey, I think this article could give you some insights on the challenges of becoming a psychadelics researcher, and the importance of correcting the stigma of psychadelics, as well as becoming an activist in it per se...

I'm questioning similar life purpose paths myself but more on the medical side as I'm interested in neurology/psychiatry as well as research(still a med student tho).

 

[TheSomeBody]

18 hours ago, Joseph ICU said:

https://maps.org/resources/students/181-so-you-want-to-be-a-psychedelic-researcher

Hey, I think this article could give you some insights on the challenges of becoming a psychadelics researcher, and the importance of correcting the stigma of psychadelics, as well as becoming an activist in it per se...

I'm questioning similar life purpose paths myself but more on the medical side as I'm interested in neurology/psychiatry as well as research(still a med student tho).

 

pretty useless because this is 2006 , before the start of the psycadelic renaissance...

there is another from 2014  with better info https://maps.org/news-letters/v24n1/v24n1_p10-13.pdf

 

 

[Wyatt]

@TheSomeBody When it comes to scientific research in general, it all comes down to one major factor: who is going to fund this study/research? Who typically funds scientific research on psychedelics? What type of professionals do they give their money to? What types of studies do they fund? Why? 

The title that you have as a clinical psychologist vs cognitive specialist vs neurologist vs whatever is less important than the fact that you have Dr. before your name, and your study is beautifully constructed and clear as to exactly what you're testing. I would say, get your degree and doctorate in whatever fields of psychology interest you the most, and while you're getting your degree AND after you graduate, continue educating yourself in other fields and disciplines that expand your understanding of psychedelics and the brain. 

Psychedelic research is very new and not well understood, so not many people will be able to give you a clear-cut answer as to what exactly to study. What we need is brilliant people from all scientific (and some non-scientific) disciplines to be looking into this

[TheSomeBody]

1 hour ago, Wyatt said:

@TheSomeBody When it comes to scientific research in general, it all comes down to one major factor: who is going to fund this study/research? Who typically funds scientific research on psychedelics? What type of professionals do they give their money to? What types of studies do they fund? Why? 

The title that you have as a clinical psychologist vs cognitive specialist vs neurologist vs whatever is less important than the fact that you have Dr. before your name, and your study is beautifully constructed and clear as to exactly what you're testing. I would say, get your degree and doctorate in whatever fields of psychology interest you the most, and while you're getting your degree AND after you graduate, continue educating yourself in other fields and disciplines that expand your understanding of psychedelics and the brain. 

Psychedelic research is very new and not well understood, so not many people will be able to give you a clear-cut answer as to what exactly to study. What we need is brilliant people from all scientific (and some non-scientific) disciplines to be looking into this

thank you!

by the time of my dr the research would be more common because of the medial use of mdma