Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Shin said: No, for certain person sex isn't important at all, and they can't feel the need for it at all. Even then, that's still you thinking you know what something is without even trying it. Right now, sex for you is on a screen and with your hand, you do NOT know what it feels like to have sex with another person, at all. Of course I haven't 'felt' the sex yet but I 'know' what sex is. I'm going to say this again, try to understand what I am saying: we all know what sex is by default, sex is not really what we do, sex is already what we actually are. Try to understand. Edited December 25, 2019 by the-philogynist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 25, 2019 17 hours ago, Serotoninluv said: Incels are involuntarily celibate (in part because they lack skills). And if you’ve never had lame sex, good for you. A solo porn session with great imagination is much better than a lame one night stand without any substance and chemistry, ime. There are different skill levels with sex, just like there are different skill levels of athletes. Ok I’m outta this forum lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) Bruh, lame sex is awful; instant regret. You just feel dirty in a bad way. Nofap however Edited December 25, 2019 by Spiral Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 25, 2019 Ram Dass once said that a person who acknowledges his sexuality is closer to god than a person that tries to forcefully shut down his/her sexual needs. I think it was well said, for example looking at some extreme cases where priests have molested kids. Keep this in mind when doing nofap. It requires alot of awareness, especially the hardmode. The normal mode also easily converts to sex addiction. It's not any better than being addicted to porn. Except for the fact that you get stage orange ego boost from having sex with multiple women. But all that is illusion, and leads to misery after all. Doing nofap correctly not only requires abstaining from sexual material and touching yourself but also being aware of your sexual thoughts. It's in no way easy, so be compassionate on yourself if you relapse. Anyhow! I recommend trying nofap. It actually leads to healthy relationship with opposite sex, aswell as your own sexuality. Getting laid is easier too when on nofap. Just take in consideration what i wrote above. I've been on nofap for a year in a row now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 25, 2019 20 hours ago, the-philogynist said: Porn is never better than actual sex. One is that you're watching others have sex but you yourself is actually not. While the other is you actually having sex yourself. Actually if you ask porn addicts, some of their symptoms include being unable to get an erection with a real life partner, replaying porn scenes in their head while having sex, and secretly jerking off to porn instead of having sex with their significant other. It’s a top complaint among wives/gf’s. Porn provides an unlimited selection of women who are in the top tier in terms of physical attraction (which most men wouldn’t be able to attract in real life) and every sexual fantasy you could imagine (sex with the same person gets old, not to mention she may not be as sexually open minded as pornstars). How can one woman compete with an endless supply of perfect 10’s willing to do anything? This is how porn provides that instant dopamine high that your average woman who only wants vanilla sex can’t compete with. So yes, for many men, they would rather jerk off to porn than fuck their gf’s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, JunkyJu said: Actually if you ask porn addicts, some of their symptoms include being unable to get an erection with a real life partner, replaying porn scenes in their head while having sex, and secretly jerking off to porn instead of having sex with their significant other. It’s a top complaint among wives/gf’s. Porn provides an unlimited selection of women who are in the top tier in terms of physical attraction (which most men wouldn’t be able to attract in real life) and every sexual fantasy you could imagine (sex with the same person gets old, not to mention she may not be as sexually open minded as pornstars). How can one woman compete with an endless supply of perfect 10’s willing to do anything? This is how porn provides that instant dopamine high that your average woman who only wants vanilla sex can’t compete with. So yes, for many men, they would rather jerk off to porn than fuck their gf’s. See, now I see what the problem truly is. You and society is giving porn way to much credit. It's a myth that female porn stars look like super models. A lot of them look like your average women and a good number of them in my opinion is actually ugly in the face. It's some actual women that are out here that's more hot and sexy than any porn star you can find. It boggles my mind how much it doesn't make sense that men would choose porn over there already girlfriend or wife. If it's like that, why not just get women that does the same thing the porn stars do? Another problem with this issue I've noticed is that people don't have sexual confidence and they have a defeating attitude. We need to be more confident about our sexuality. Once we have confidence we will be more creative in sex and we can stop looking at other people having sex on camera because we're doing it better than what they are. Edited December 25, 2019 by the-philogynist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, the-philogynist said: It boggles my mind how much it doesn't make sense that men would choose porn over there already girlfriend or wife. It makes perfect sense if you study what porn does to your brain. I had a friend that is a playboy and can attract any 10 he likes, and he was still jerking off after having sex with those kinds of girls Edited December 26, 2019 by Shin God is love Whoever lives in love lives in God And God in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 Sex does not take skill. Great, amazing, mindblowing sex DOES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shin said: It makes perfect sense if you study what porn does to your brain. I had a friend that is a playboy and can attract any 10 he likes, and he was still jerking off after having sex with those kinds of girls No it doesn't make sense. Those people want to be defeated and they lack confidence, so they would rather bow down and praise the porn stars that they see on camera. I know what's going on here and it's a shame. Edited December 26, 2019 by the-philogynist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, TheUniverseIsLove said: Sex does not take skill. Great, amazing, mindblowing sex DOES. Well I wouldn't call it a 'skill'. I'll call it being 'creative'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, the-philogynist said: No it doesn't make sense. Those people want to be defeated and they lack confidence, so they would rather bow down and praise the porn stars that they see on camera. What a shame. That guy never lacked confidence, he succeeded at everything he tried. The perfect orange guy. God is love Whoever lives in love lives in God And God in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Spiral said: Bruh, lame sex is awful; instant regret. You just feel dirty in a bad way. Yea, there is a type of sex that is hollow, unsatisfying and feels uncomfortably bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shin said: That guy never lacked confidence, he succeeded at everything he tried. The perfect orange guy. Ok, he only wants to masturbate and be promiscuous because he chooses to. I was talking about the people that chooses porn over having actual sex with their girlfriends or wives. That's what doesn't make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Serotoninluv said: Yea, there is a type of sex that is hollow, unsatisfying and feels uncomfortably bad. Yeah, the type that lacks meaningful emotional connection to your partner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, Natasha said: Yeah, the type that lacks meaningful emotional connection to your partner. Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said: Yea, there is a type of sex that is hollow, unsatisfying and feels uncomfortably bad. It's only like that because the people didn't have sexual confidence and lacked creativity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, the-philogynist said: Well I wouldn't call it a 'skill'. I'll call it being 'creative'. @the-philogynist Creativity IS a skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, the-philogynist said: It's only like that because the people didn't have sexual confidence and lacked creativity. No. There are types of human connections that are not simply a matter of confidence and creativity. Confidence and creativity can assets or liabilities, depending on context. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheUniverseIsLove said: @the-philogynist Creativity IS a skill. Well guess what, it's a natural 'skill' that we have when we're confident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said: No. There are types of human connections that are not simply a matter of confidence and creativity. Although confidence and creativity ate certainly assets. One might say necessary, yet insufficient. Are they human sexual connections? Because that's what we're talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
