Annoynymous

Pursuit of Truth to avoid suffering

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Is it authentic and worthwhile motivation to pursue truth to escape suffering? 

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Yes, it is what we all start with. However, eventually and naturally it will be dropped during the path. 

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2 minutes ago, Annoynymous said:

Is it authentic and worthwhile motivation to pursue truth to escape suffering? 

It is for me.

Is it authentic? Yes, I think so. I've not heard many people arguing there is no suffering. 

It is worthwhile? Hell yeh! Because it's my view that not only do we suffer, but we pass that suffering on, knowingly or not, I think we do. 

BUT............ I would change the term "escape suffering" to "reduce suffering", as can suffering be escaped? Not sure on that one.....

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Well i don't know whether the suffering could be escaped entirely or not.

I am although sure of a thing that the no 1 thing that is currently motivating me to pursue enlightenment and truth is suffering.

I think surival is suffering. It can't be done without suffering through it. Thus pain becomes our unwanted companion and we become clueless of what to do with it.

Then suddenly one day you find something deeper than survival and journey towards that happen.

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Suffering comes from desires, desires come from beliefs, beliefs are the structure of the ego, and the ego is formed in infinite love/consciousness. 

When the being shifts from the ego to infinite love/consciousness, suffering ends because suffering becomes love. 

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50 minutes ago, Annoynymous said:

Is it authentic and worthwhile motivation to pursue truth to escape suffering? 

no, the truth will be useless to you if you have not first relieved your suffering
independently of it

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Truth will make you see through the illusion of suffering. You will become able to utilise the suffering for creation. God creates through suffering. And unless you want to create/stay alive, you can try to avoid suffering. You will go full-circle and realise that you want and need suffering to stay alive. You will not desire suffering per se, but you will not suffer from it anymore.

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Only you can answer that for yourself. The ego is not going to escape suffering. You have to start to deconstruct the ego, which is the most difficult thing to do that goes against every natural instinct you have. Its so hard its ridiculous, and I know I haven't even scratched the surface in my journey. Every time I achieve a little growth there is always another survival need posing problems. Its a marathon though, not a sprint. Suffering can be decreased incrementally. The first thing you need is awareness of the mechanisms constantly driving you behind all your decisions, behaviors, daily activities, ect. Only then can you recognize patterns and start chipping away. 


"Started from the bottom and I just realized I'm still there since the money and the fame is an illusion" -Drake doing self-inquiry

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@Annoynymous

Meditate letting the thought stories (suffering) go - first thing everyday before the thought stories have momentum.

What ‘hangs on’ identity / feelings wise - write about the feeling (not the thought / story) on paper to let it out. 

Then notice how you reconstruct suffering by believing thoughts again. (Of past, future, & self)

To create, then resist (“escape”), then recreate, then resist, the recreate, then resist....

Just watch that pattern, and ‘get behind it’ by awareness of how you’re creating the suffering. 

Truth = suffering. Trying to escape truth while trying to realize truth is a hamster wheel. 

Truth = understanding. Whatever thought story arises that there is something to understand, is itself Truth.

Suffering can’t be ‘escaped’ while one is making it the object (and one the subject by default). 

The ox isn’t killed. It’s ridden blindly. Invisibly. 


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