Does Daygame really work?

[Meetjoeblack]

17 hours ago, Epiphany_Inspired said:

@Lynnel

 @Meetjoeblack I dont understand red vs blue pills either, but that's OK... I get what your are saying about meeting people and the beta man plight... I have been with a number of alpha guys, I guess because they are so bold, direct, and talented (usually something cool like fire-spinning, music, or skateboarding)... but I dont think women always want that, especially if it doesn't come with enough humility. I would take a humble sweet beta with the same talent over a pompous type of alpha any day! I too have gone through the younger me phase of attraction to the bad sort of guy, and personally believe if we are attracted to that, then it must be to learn something.... I dont think it's always about the nice guys finishing last, that's far from the case... many women I know only want the most gentle sweet souls they can find... as far as meeting places I agree with Leo and the forum that places where people doing PD work would chill should be good options... 

So, i introduced my buddy to a girl I'm friends with. I'm friends with both. If my sister was alive, I'd introduce him to her. He's the best man i know. My generation doesn't do this. I thought I would. 

They match on app. Great right? She messages him. He messages her. Good right. 

No! Radio silence. Nodda. 

She's in the city living the sex and the city Lifestyle. Jumping of random guys, chasing sociopaths and it didn't end well. 30+ Chad/Tyrone stopped calling. 

My buddy met a young girl. She pursued nonstop. She's PROPER, beautiful, intelligent, dedicated to my buddy. She's a only child. Nuclear family. Great relationship with her father. Isn't out jumping off guys. She wants to get married, to be a wife, a mother, and have a family over everything. Moreover, she wants to be married to my buddy, to take his name, to be his wife and have HIS KIDS. 

The other girl then asks about him lol. She blew it. Its the same old story told again and again. Its her life. Do what ever you want. Yolo. Live it up. She's on route to spinster. Good luck. 

Its like night and day in contrasting the two. The older i get, the more patterns i see, and pick up (lol) on. Its night and day. Weird seeing that happen with my buddy. He's good looking, girls like him and yet still weirdness occurs BUT it all worked out fine lol for him. 

I've seen the following occur. Girls look me up after ages. The thought process is that, I'm the same guy as i was before. I am not. 

 

Guy or girl, everyone's free to live their life however they see fit without breaking the law lol. Its ridiculous to deem there's no fallout or sacrifice and consequences for our actions.

Edited December 30, 2019 by Meetjoeblack

[SoothedByRain]

@Arcangelo She doesn't understand her privilege, she doesn't understand the otherside of dating. If she had to go out and work like a male to date she would fail and then go seeking understanding via self-education. Don't hold it against her, recognise the privileges you have over most/some women and observe her self-bias and self-defense survival at work. Egoic devilry is a masterpiece of neurological genius. Everything in a womans neurological make up has evolved to protect her against maliciously deceitful and/or self-deceived men who would could impregnate her and then never come back. Of course women paint most, if not all PU as trash, it goes against their agenda and makes them feel unsettled. The external is chaos, she seeks a relationship and friendship for safety. Her selfish and self-deceived dating mechanisms are called love and romance (not absolute love)

She doesn't understand that you going out approaching and needing to hone your social skills and understanding of women is a necessity if you want to attract any women, let alone a high quality woman. The attention she receives falls into her lap, she doesn't understand that within the world of dating, she has won the lottery, mean while you need to get yourself a suit, learn the social game, hone your skills and go get employement so you can earn a wage.

The only time a woman doesn't have the "upper, easy hand" in dating is when she is either naive, not attractive or trying to reel in a man who is above her in myriad ways, a man she is attracted to, in which case she then has to start working to get what she wants/needs.

Edited December 30, 2019 by SoothedByRain

[SoothedByRain]

 

[Amandine]

20 hours ago, Meetjoeblack said:

Anyways, good chatting. I am still figuring it. I got ghosted on once after getting head. Lol 

Oh heck, sorry that happened to you Joe, and I was looking forward to a happy ending there. 

 

You're on the right track though, just keep avoiding the "crazies", got your head screwed on, me boy. ??

It's all trial and error (sigh) for us lasses too, the reality is you sometimes gotta kiss a lotta frogs before you find your prince. 

 

Edited December 30, 2019 by Amandine

[SoothedByRain]

EDIT: I double posted like a goon. Deleted.

 

Edited December 30, 2019 by SoothedByRain

[SoothedByRain]

6 minutes ago, Amandine said:

20 hours ago, Meetjoeblack said:

Anyways, good chatting. I am still figuring it. I got ghosted on once after getting head. Lol 

 

5 minutes ago, Amandine said:

Oh heck, sorry that happened to you Joe, and I was looking forward to a happy ending there. 

 

You're on the right track though, just keep avoiding the "crazies", got your head screwed on, me boy. ??

It's all trial and error (sigh) for us lasses too, the reality is you sometimes gotta kiss a lotta frogs before you find your prince. ?

 

 

 

Haha  I'm laughing at the frog and joeblacks head ghost

 

[Ananta]

@Arcangelo Knock it off. You took it out of context, I was just making a point that a man doesn't have to start being a different person (red pill mentality, PUA, etc), because of getting hurt and I was NOT calling MJB a fool, therefore not namecalling. He's actually been my friend for a few years now. You can ask him.

 

 

 

[Ananta]

On 12/30/2019 at 0:21 PM, Arcangelo said:

Every man that has ever lived is a PUA. That's what some people fail to understand.

There is talking to women and asking to hang out or get a date (or consensual sex), then there is PUA trying to get in womens pants, seemingly all the time, giving approaching a bad name I think. That's the way I see it, hence me saying PUA fool. If one is looking for a GF why call it pick up artistry? 

 

[Meetjoeblack]

On 12/30/2019 at 2:22 PM, Amandine said:

Oh heck, sorry that happened to you Joe, and I was looking forward to a happy ending there. 

 

You're on the right track though, just keep avoiding the "crazies", got your head screwed on, me boy. ??

It's all trial and error (sigh) for us lasses too, the reality is you sometimes gotta kiss a lotta frogs before you find your prince. 

 

 

Lol when I was beta, I would still be scratching my head on that one. Head followed by ghosting. Oh, there was a happy ending. Great times. Perplexing good times lol

 

I've shared my shenanigans with Dij, the good, the bad, and the ugly. 

 

I am learning to laugh more. 

On 12/30/2019 at 6:09 PM, Anna1 said:

There is talking to women and asking to hang out or get a date (or consensual sex), then there is PUA trying to get in womens pants, seemingly all the time, giving it a bad name I think. That's the way I see it, hence me saying PUA fool. If one is looking for a GF why call it pick up artistry?

 

I suppose. Again, its not ideal. I am still grateful for that experience given, if not having learned, I would be worse off imho. 

If married, if we were married, i wouldn't be approaching anymore. I am a bachelor. I am enjoying it give my single status. 

Since hitting my stride, I've become a lot less agreeable with Dating and in general. Its not the path I would have preferred but again, what's the alternative? 

[Meetjoeblack]

4 hours ago, SoothedByRain said:

Haha  I'm laughing at the frog and joeblacks head ghost

 

Man, its ludicrous these days. Skeptical panda is skeptical lol. 

[Ananta]

20 minutes ago, Meetjoeblack said:

I've shared my shenanigans with Dij, the good, the bad, and the ugly. 

Just call me Anna here. Dij will just confuse them.

[Meetjoeblack]

6 hours ago, SoothedByRain said:

@Arcangelo She doesn't understand her privilege, she doesn't understand the otherside of dating. If she had to go out and work like a male to date she would fail and then go seeking understanding via self-education. Don't hold it against her, recognise the privileges you have over most/some women and observe her self-bias and self-defense survival at work. Egoic devilry is a masterpiece of neurological genius. Everything in a womans neurological make up has evolved to protect her against maliciously deceitful and/or self-deceived men who would could impregnate her and then never come back. Of course women paint most, if not all PU as trash, it goes against their agenda and makes them feel unsettled. The external is chaos, she seeks a relationship and friendship for safety. Her selfish and self-deceived dating mechanisms are called love and romance (not absolute love)

She doesn't understand that you going out approaching and needing to hone your social skills and understanding of women is a necessity if you want to attract any women, let alone a high quality woman. The attention she receives falls into her lap, she doesn't understand that within the world of dating, she has won the lottery, mean while you need to get yourself a suit, learn the social game, hone your skills and go get employement so you can earn a wage.

The only time a woman doesn't have the "upper, easy hand" in dating is when she is either naive, not attractive or trying to reel in a man who is above her in myriad ways, a man she is attracted to, in which case she then has to start working to get what she wants/needs.

One of the generalizations ill make again can be seen in the thread here. 

Women more collectivist and guys, more disagreeable even amongst each other. Its fascinating to when looking at politics and orange man bad. Women Liberal early twenties. When her hubby is rich or well off, she's suddenly conservative lol

Studying STEM vs Liberal arts or gender studies. The student debt affects more women then men. Shockingly itd political talking point. Not sure it would be if it were more dudes on the hook. 

The divorce stats are terrifying. Find any stat and its not good or flattering. We can all agree weinstein and Cosby are pieces of shit. A Unflattering point nobody talks about is the girls showing up to weinsteind place for parts IN EXCHANGE FOR WHAT? SOMEONE RIDDLE ME THIS? 

There's some nasty behaviour in men and women. Men are demonised. If you call out disgusting behaviour of women, you hate all women. Scream misogyny and whatever else. 

Facts or feels lol. 

The response is a strawman argument. 

There are women i dislike for whatever reason. Dij/Anna1 is my friend regardless of a topic, this or that. I have other friends. Even the girl I introduced to my buddy who was going nuts being a jump off. She just ruined it with my buddy and he's Dating a young hot girl. I am still her friend but she's a train wreck. Its just common theme in the modern era. 

Men and women have different strengths and weaknesses. Again, we're better together than apart. The Internet is very telling as is metrics and analytics on a number of things. 

I have found with "game," i much prefer rejection over a fence sitter /maybe /ambiguity. I next lol. More approaching! 

A really telling piece of reality, watch JRE and Peterson talk female hypergamy. Its on YouTube and everything not pc is deplatformed or demonetized. They scratch the surface. Its a bit more SAVAGE. 

 

Interestingly enough, its hind brain. Its dated behaviour but yet still applicable today. Jeff Bozo is the richest man on the planet. His ex is now the richest woman due to divorce rape. 

[Meetjoeblack]

3 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

Just call me Anna here. Dij will just confuse them.

<3

I was exercising discretion lulz! 

Ugh, now i want a new name lol. 

Edited December 31, 2019 by Meetjoeblack
Lol

[Meetjoeblack]

2 hours ago, Anna1 said:

@Arcangelo Knock it off. You took it out of context, I was just making a point that a man doesn't have to start being a different person (red pill mentality, PUA, etc), because of getting hurt and I was NOT calling MJB a fool, therefore not namecalling. He's actually been my friend for a few years now. You can ask him.

 

 

 

Man, years now, lol

Though, you're probably regretting the invite by now lololol. 

2 hours ago, Anna1 said:

There is talking to women and asking to hang out or get a date (or consensual sex), then there is PUA trying to get in womens pants, seemingly all the time, giving it a bad name I think. That's the way I see it, hence me saying PUA fool. If one is looking for a GF why call it pick up artistry?

 

The whole consent thing in the #metoo era is scary. It is like, 30 yrs from now, someone can change their mind and ruin lives.

With that said, I am out the sec there's ambiguity and any lack of desire. Its not appealing otherwise lol. Sadly, I have archived my shenanigans for such measures.  I'd prefer accused of violence or murder over hurting women. That's wrong. I remember telling you about sexy time with a college girl.  

I just texted to make sure she was ok but i never woke up to a funnier text ever. I laughed so hard my abs hurt. 

I am no porn star but she caught hell lololol 

[Ananta]

27 minutes ago, Meetjoeblack said:

 i wouldn't be approaching anymore.

Approaching is necessary to ever get a date or gf, I have no problem with approaching, just approaching isnt pick up artistry imo. It's the underlining reason one is approaching that seems to have changed, like I said, seems like its to have sex and sleep with many girls.

Back in my day, it was used mainly to get a date or find a GF. My husband approached in a nightclub, but he wanted a date, a GF, not a one night stand or to just get a number.

He didn't move on to other women that night to start over to see how many numbers he could get or see who would sleep with him.

Anyways, we went on a date the next weekend, he put time and energy into courting me. We have been together now for 31 years. 

[Ananta]

5 minutes ago, Meetjoeblack said:

I remember telling you about sexy time with a college girl.

We can probably keep the stories off open forum. Lol

[Meetjoeblack]

3 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

Approaching is necessary to ever get a date or gf, I have no problem with approaching, just approaching isnt pick up artistry imo. It's the underlining reason one is approaching that seems to have changed, like I said, seems like its to have sex and sleep with many girls.

Back in my day, it was used mainly to get a date or find a GF. My husband approached in a nightclub, but he wanted a date, a GF, not a one night stand or to just get a number.

He didn't move on to other women that night to start over to see how many numbers he could get or see who would sleep with him.

Anyways, we went on a date the next weekend, he put time and energy into courting me. We have been together now for 31 years. 

Ya. I remember. You guys have a cute story. 

 

My generation is lazy. Everything is tinder and everyone is getting fat lol. Approaching isn't lazy. Its like a day job. Its funny. I learned what pua is but I never thought of my self as a pua. I actually found ecky because of pua. Its the universe bringing us together lol. 

I still value it to have inspired me to take action. And I am genuinely interested when I approach. 

 

If only everyone had a cute story like you two. I love it. <3

It sounds lame but I like the stories. The world is chaotic. We all need to hear wins. 

I hate OLD. I would rather approach. I almost would rather say i met my gf or wife via pickup then tinder lol. 

Of course, my story would be she could have resisted my charm and good looks.

[Meetjoeblack]

7 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

We can probably keep the stories off open forum. Lol

Ok deal! 

[Alyosha]

"Game" and the dividing line between having good intentions and being a scummy pua is more murky than people would like to believe. Trying to get a girlfriend or a healthy relationship/interaction can be a tough process sometimes. From a guys perspective, a girl whos a real catch has many options, and it is important for a guy to be aware of when his time is being wasted or if hes being used. So it would serve him well to spread his options and not invest too heavy into one woman until the relationship shows actual signs of potential and growth. 

But at the same time, a guy can take it too far and just play the game exclusively for his own benefit. He may get used or led on a few too many times, and then just settle with the fact that he needs to be an asshole and not care about anything real, and only seek what suites his desires. 

It's a balancing act. And for me, I am learning that I just need to have the best intentions in mind i.e. not trying to manipulate or hurt someone for my own selfish reasons. I also realize that it is incredibly valuable to have a foundation in my own purpose, and things that make me happy by myself. So when things don't go exactly as I'd like with a woman, I can always fall back on things that make me happy without the need for affection and validation. 

[Meetjoeblack]

18 hours ago, Alyosha said:

"Game" and the dividing line between having good intentions and being a scummy pua is more murky than people would like to believe. Trying to get a girlfriend or a healthy relationship/interaction can be a tough process sometimes. From a guys perspective, a girl whos a real catch has many options, and it is important for a guy to be aware of when his time is being wasted or if hes being used. So it would serve him well to spread his options and not invest too heavy into one woman until the relationship shows actual signs of potential and growth. 

But at the same time, a guy can take it too far and just play the game exclusively for his own benefit. He may get used or led on a few too many times, and then just settle with the fact that he needs to be an asshole and not care about anything real, and only seek what suites his desires. 

It's a balancing act. And for me, I am learning that I just need to have the best intentions in mind i.e. not trying to manipulate or hurt someone for my own selfish reasons. I also realize that it is incredibly valuable to have a foundation in my own purpose, and things that make me happy by myself. So when things don't go exactly as I'd like with a woman, I can always fall back on things that make me happy without the need for affection and validation. 

why would men need pickup or game? Women wake use beta thirst has guys blowing up a girls phone and telling her shit don't stink. 

The biggest scumbag isn't pua. 

Spoiler... Its male feminist lol. They can't compete so,  they cowardly pretend to be an alliance. I enjoying rogan and Peterson going off about it. 

Bro everyone plays the game to their benefit. What is cuckoldry? Divorce rape? If you look at false accusations, it destroys a life, and virtually no fallout occurs for her. Does anybody actually believe the kavanagh accusations? Anybody conservative is secs away from #metoo. 

With that said, I next crazy.