Why this Trump impeachment is a waste of time for progressives

[Leo Gura]

The problem is that voters don't vote based on policy, they vote based on their own Spiral stage and cultural issues.

The right wing is great at exploiting those cultural issues which trigger a fear for the higher Spiral stages and make people vote for lower stages.

That is Fox News' entire playbook.

[Bno]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

The problem is that voters don't vote based on policy, they vote based on their own Spiral stage and cultural issues.

The right wing is great at exploiting those cultural issues which trigger a fear for the higher Spiral stages and make people vote for lower stages.

That is Fox News' entire playbook.

This is very true. Many anti-establishment Democrats, however, have crossover appeal with them. A lot of Republicans are willing to vote blue if their economic policies are put in front of their social policies. Sanders, Gabbard, and Yang have a lot of crossover appeal because they prioritize their financial policies in their platforms, whereas centrist democrats think they have to appease them by being moderate Republicans while trying to cater to Democrats with social issues, which pisses off conservative voters.

The way to win is to focus on rich vs poor, not blue vs red. There's many more of us poor/average folks than there are of them.

Edited December 15, 2019 by Bno

[Preety_India]

Trump impeachment is never going  to happen. He already made it clear. 

Fake noos again. 

Now it's all going to backfire. 

CNN has become tabloid journalism. 

I really want to see what happens to those who accused him and wasted resources. 

Tried for treason? 

 

[Bno]

"Theres also a problem with the logic instilled by these impeachment articles because they trotted out all these security state functionaries to say that Truml defied US foreign policy and tried to conduct his own foreign policy. Well, what happens down the line when a President Bernie or a President whoever decides to buck the national security State or foreign policy buerecacy for reasons that had nothing to do with wanting an investigation with Joe Biden and then people say 'oh well we tried to impeach the previous president for doing this exact same thing.' These things always establish a precedent, but most democrats in adjacent media are so blinkered in their monomaniacal obsession with Trump as a person that they have no perspective and have no idea how any of this boomerangs down the line."

- Michael Tracy on The Jimmy Dore Show 12/21/19 @ 19:55

https://youtu.be/_3ps2Aq97Oo

Primela Jayapal, after being on Democracy Now, was told that promoting this type of impeachment is only increasing Trump's poll numbers and she said she doesn't care.

Cenk Ugyr, after being told by Jimmy Dore that Russiagate only props up Trump and gives his campaign ammo said he doesn't care and that he doesn't care, he'll keep promoting Russiagate.

Many of these Democrats that hate Trump mean well, but their hatred blinds them, it makes them myopic and dogmatic about how to actually solve the problems of this country, which is not by impeaching Trump for an ambiguous phone call, it can be done by impeaching him for actual war crimes, but more importantly it can be done by actually beating him at the ballot box.

How can we beat him at the ballot box? Run a populist platform and call out Trump on his failings with helping the average American financially. Also by offering fresh new ideas that'll actually benefit the American people financially. The only three democratic candidates that can do this are Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, and Andrew Yang.

Here's an article about how Trump also isn't actually impeached until articles of impeachment are brought to the senate, according to the Democrat's own lawyer: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-12-19/trump-impeachment-delay-could-be-serious-problem-for-democrats