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[astrokeen]

@Dumuzzi , your message from Innana is so beautiful. Thank you!

Would you ask this question please - are there any special benefits to praying to (or conversing with)  a God or a Goddess in contrast to praying to the formless universal spirit?

Also, are you able to sense anything about people here on this thread? Would love to hear from you if you receive any info about me.

Edited June 8, 2020 by astrokeen

[Dumuzzi]

@astrokeen Hi Astrokeen,

Thanks, 

Yes, gods and goddesses have specialties, things that they are good at or specialise in and you can build a personal relationship with them, which makes it much more likely that they'll help you. Deities like to hand out boons to people that have impressed them, especially in terms of spiritual progress and prowess. 

Regarding readings, I don't do those, sometimes I can sense things about people, but I'm not very good at it, so I don't pursue it. I leave that to others. My specialty is communication and interaction with deities. 

[astrokeen]

On 08/06/2020 at 1:35 PM, Dumuzzi said:

@astrokeen Hi Astrokeen,

Thanks, 

Yes, gods and goddesses have specialties, things that they are good at or specialise in and you can build a personal relationship with them, which makes it much more likely that they'll help you. Deities like to hand out boons to people that have impressed them, especially in terms of spiritual progress and prowess. 

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@Dumuzzi a few questions, please.

Which dimension or realm do Gods exist in? Assuming there is the great formless spirit that has manifested into a multi-dimensional universe, how do the Gods fit into it?  Are Gods or deities co-created by the group thinking, and therefore, the lower dimensions including the 3rd dimension have multifarious Gods?

How does Inanna, who also manifests as Shiva, Shakti, Durga or Tara relate to the Elohim? And is Inanna also manifest in the higher dimensions or other planets?

Is there a hierarchical system within godhood?

[Dumuzzi]

3 hours ago, astrokeen said:

@Dumuzzi a few questions, please.

Which dimension or realm do Gods exist in? Assuming there is the great formless spirit that has manifested into a multi-dimensional universe, how do the Gods fit into it?  Are Gods or deities co-created by the group thinking, and therefore, the lower dimensions including the 3rd dimension have multifarious Gods?

Hiya Astrokeen. I don't have all the answers, but I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities.

The realm of the gods or heaven as it is also known exists in higher-dimensional space. From what I have been told and shown it has at least 6 dimensions, 3 spatial and 3 temporal. Three dimensions of time can be traversed just as easily as 3 dimensions of space. However, higher dimensions still mean limitation and in fact there is a realm that is entirely outside of space and time, the realm of the Absolute. I experienced this once, when I had my Kundalini awakening and my consciousness expanded out of my body and into Infinity. It is pretty impossible to describe in normal 3D, human terms, but there is no limitation at all, just expansion, omniscience and omnipotence. I guess this is what "becoming God" actually means in practice. 

As for gods, they are generally higher-dimensional beings, which is why we normally can't see them, but they do have ways of interacting with us. I would not say that they are created as such, it is more accurate to say that they are manifestations of various aspects of the Universal Spirit, often appearing as forces of nature. 

3 hours ago, astrokeen said:

How does Inanna, who also manifests as Shiva, Shakti, Durga or Tara relate to the Elohim? And is Inanna also manifest in the higher dimensions or other planets?

Is there a hierarchical system within godhood?

The Elohim could just as well be called the "gods" or "devas", essentially, they are the same thing. In my communications with Inanna and the others they like to call themselves Elohim, because the duality and ambiguity of that term best expresses their collective nature. They are of one mind, so we can say they are "God", but they can also manifest, act and think individually, in which case they are "gods". The term Elohim is both plural and singular, so it can mean both.

Duality starts with the absolute (Brahman) splitting itself into two, God and Goddess, Shiva and Shakti. 

Inanna is one manifestation of the Goddess, but there are many others. Brahman is unmanifest, but Shiva and Shakti are dual and thus create a manifest universe by their very coming into being. They can and do manifest in higher-dimensional realms and other planets, which is why they often look quite different from us, but are also generally humanoid-looking, because "We were made in their image".

There is symbolic hierarchy within Godhood, only out of a sign of respect, so different manifestations are given different names, titles, powers and tasks, but in reality they exist in a continuum and share a collective reality and mind.

[astrokeen]

@Dumuzzi , thank you! Very well explained  .  You are very fortunate indeed to have access to this portal and these experiences. Look forward to reading more about your insights and what you are shown.

Could you please say more about what brought about your kundalini awakening. Which meditative practices where you using and for how many years?

 

 

Edited June 9, 2020 by astrokeen

[Member]

11 hours ago, Dumuzzi said:

The realm of the gods or heaven as it is also known exists in higher-dimensional space. From what I have been told and shown it has at least 6 dimensions, 3 spatial and 3 temporal. Three dimensions of time can be traversed just as easily as 3 dimensions of space. However, higher dimensions still mean limitation and in fact there is a realm that is entirely outside of space and time, the realm of the Absolute.

Could you please elaborate what do you mean with the 3 temporal dimensions... I guess you're referring to the past, present and future?

[Dumuzzi]

10 hours ago, astrokeen said:

@Dumuzzi , thank you! Very well explained  .  You are very fortunate indeed to have access to this portal and these experiences. Look forward to reading more about your insights and what you are shown.

Could you please say more about what brought about your kundalini awakening. Which meditative practices where you using and for how many years?

 

 

Thanks Astrokeen, you're too kind.

I guess I was different from others from birth. I always had the ability to concentrate very intently on a task or activity, completely shutting out the outside world. So much so, that may parents took me to the doctor to have my hearing examined, thinking there might be something wrong with it. There wasn't, it is just that when I am deeply absorbed in something I literally cannot hear or see the outside world. In fact if somebody disturbs me in such a state, I get startled and disoriented, like being suddenly woken from deep sleep or a dream.

Otherwise I had a pretty conventional upbringing in Hungary. There was a stint in India from age 7-9, which got me interested in Hinduism and the various gods and deities in it. A Statue of Shiva Nataraja was always in my room, which I did not realise the significance of until later.

I started meditating on my own at age 13, learning from books and attending Yoga classes. It took almost 20 years to achieve any significant results, but I did not meditate for all that time, there were significant stints when I only meditated occasionally. However, I kept up my study and spent most of my free time reading and educating myself. In terms of Hindu scripture, I've read translations of the Mahabharata, Ramayana, Bhagavata Purana, Uddhava Gita and most of the Upanishads, though I don't speak Sanskrit, apart from the words that stuck with me through all this reading.

So, I am entirely self-taught and that caused some major issues when my Kundalini did start rising.

Things were more or less fine until the power hit the Heart Chakra, but the blockages (Karma) stuck in there were too much to clear and I needed the Goddess's help to get through that particular hurdle.

At first, probably around age 30, I felt heat at the base of my spine. That slowly started rising, there was a pulsating sensation and a very physical and visceral feeling of "something", like a serpent of energy, literally moving and wriggling inside me. I then started to feel my chakras spinning for the first time. During meditation, my solar plexus would heat up and it was like a mini-hurricane in there, with furious spinning and ever-increasing heat, the longer I was in meditation.

Nowadays, I can feel all my chakras if I concentrate on them, otherwise they mostly do their thing in the background, but it is all very pleasant.

Right now, as I'm writing this, my Crown Chakra is the most active, because wisdom is flowing down from heaven and the top back part of my head is hot to the touch. When I write about spiritual matters the inflow of divine wisdom is just an incredible feeling, sweet, intoxicating and in our physical realm only comparable to making love to a beautiful woman you are in tune and in love with.

[Dumuzzi]

1 minute ago, Member said:

Could you please elaborate what do you mean with the 3 temporal dimensions... I guess you're referring to the past, present and future?

Hiya, 

No, not quite.

Time as we experience it is one-dimensional. 

Think of it like a train track, we are all on the same train, going forward at a steady speed on a single track we can't deviate from. Theoretically, you could get off the train, but not without killing yourself (death). The present is where you are now, the past is what you have left behind and the future is coming up, but this is all in a single dimension, at least from our perspective.

However, to higher beings, time is three-dimensional. First of all, they're not on the train, they can walk along the track, go back to the past, stay in the present or walk along to the future. They can also reach and explore other tracks, which are parallel timelines and universes. They meet periodically, which is when you might experience strange phenomena like the Mandela effect or when major Life Decisions come around and you might shift to another timeline. It is like changing tracks. Since timelines are 3D in higher-dimensional space-time, they can go all over the place without meeting or they can criss-cross at certain intersections.

The Gods take great care in monitoring and preserving the various timelines and will periodically incarnate as avatars (get on the train) if the need arises and intervention is warranted.

Inanna once showed me how our timeline looks to her from a higher-dimensional perspective. Or, now that I think about it, it may have been one of her other aspects, probably Green Tara. I often get confused by her various aspects, so I just use "The Goddess" as a collective term.

She was sitting cross-legged in a black void, surrounded by a time loop. It was a string of light, more like a tube actually. Once you got closer, you could see that each section of the tube contained the entirety of the happenings going on in the created universe in one point of time. It was like watching a film being projected, but it was going on constantly. The Goddess had the ability to monitor all moments simultaneously all over the universe and when she reached in, she had the ability to manipulate and change events as needed, basically, to preserve the timeline (or timeloop as was the case here). She told me, she can appear at any point in time and space instantly. She will generally just "reach in" as needed, which, since it comes from a higher dimension, is invisible to us. She can also incarnate in any time period and place, which to her is just a flash, but on earth, several thousand years may pass. Inanna was one of her incarnations or avatars, several thousands of years ago, which to us is in the past, but to her it is forever the present.

This works the same way with other gods, such as Vishnu-Krishna. From our perspective, Krishna is long dead, but from Vishnu's perspective, he was never born and never died, they are One.

I'm not sure how the individual gods divide responsibilities and areas up amongst themselves, there is probably a hierarchy of sorts, based on seniority or merit.

[Member]

Hi @Dumuzzi, I know that we only perceive the present moment, although neuroscience demonstrated that we are living in the past as consciousness lags 80 milliseconds behind actual events. But from what you're describing, I think you're referring to the 4th dimension where past, present & future coexist simultaneously - there is the time dimension which is not the same with the fourth spatial dimension or the tesseract. Btw, your description about the tube reminded me about this scene from Interstellar - link.

As for the 3D train, are you sure that our minds cannot access the 4th dimension? I see no reason why extra dimensions would be separate from our space-time fabric.

Edited June 10, 2020 by Member

[Dumuzzi]

@Member I'm not a physicist, so It's hard to give an accurate reaction to your theories.

Michio Kaku, one of the fathers of String Theory would be your best source to explore these topics. He is a bit of a celebrity physicist, and has done several TV shows and written many popular science books, which are easily accessible to the average person, no need for any formal training in physics. He also has some interesting talks and lectures on youtube. David Wilcock also does a fine job of reporting on the various theories surrounding this in The Source Field Investigations. 

[Member]

22 minutes ago, Dumuzzi said:

@Member I'm not a physicist, so It's hard to give an accurate reaction to your theories.

Michio Kaku, one of the fathers of String Theory would be your best source to explore these topics. He is a bit of a celebrity physicist, and has done several TV shows and written many popular science books, which are easily accessible to the average person, no need for any formal training in physics. He also has some interesting talks and lectures on youtube. David Wilcock also does a fine job of reporting on the various theories surrounding this in The Source Field Investigations. 

Ok, thank you for the mentions. I am curious what's your position regarding demons? Do you think that malevolent entities exist? And how do you know that these gods aren't in fact evil and they aren't trying to trick you?

Edited June 10, 2020 by Member

[Dumuzzi]

1 hour ago, Member said:

Ok, thank you for the mentions. I am curious what's your position regarding demons? Do you think that malevolent entities exist? And how do you know that these gods aren't in fact evil and they aren't trying to trick you?

Well, that is a controversial subject in itself. There are for sure Malevolent entities, parasites basically, that feed off human energy, but what are normally considered demons are not usually such parasites. The thing is, if you look at it from a Christian perspective, then every entity that is not Yahweh is considered a demon, even if they are respected gods in other cultures. This is literally what demonisation means. To me, the idea of one Jealous and Angry God that wants to exclude all the others does not make any sense and simply doesn't compute.

 

The word demon comes from Greek Daemon, which is just a generic term for spirit, but it does not indicate malevolence by itself. 

 

I have a friend who can see spirits (after he had an NDE due to a motorcycle accident) and he tells me that they are all over the place, they basically surround us in what is called the Astral realm. I can only sense their presence and energy when they approach me, but i can't actually see them. 

 

I can only talk about this from my perspective, but I just know when I am interacting with a genuine higher being from heaven as opposed to some entity or spirit from the lower astral. There is just a completely different energy about them and intentions are very hard to hide when communicating through energy and telepathy, because you can just sense what others want or are really up to.

 

When the Goddess first visited me, I just knew that something incredibly powerful, benevolent and loving had entered the room. You can't mistake that presence for anything else. Subsequent actions from her proved to me beyond any doubt that she is indeed a highly benevolent being, but I guess every person has to experience that personally. 

 

Another BS detector I have, which I can use effectively are my heart and crown chakras. The heart can only be activated by genuine love and the crown connects directly to heaven. When in contact with heavenly beings these two chakras are very much working overtime and the inflow of divine wisdom and love is very literal and can be felt as an actual substance, which is the nectar of the Gods, Soma/Ambrosia or Amrita. It would be impossible for a lower Astral being or parasite to fake any of that. They simply cannot connect to you on that level, and in fact divine wisdom and love energy repels them. Once you raise your vibrations and your energy levels high enough, through Kundalini activation, you exist in a state that is inaccessible to parasites.

I would say that I am already very close to heaven and in constant contact and communion with it and from my own experiences I have no doubt whatsoever that Inanna really holds the title of "Queen of Heaven" as her name would suggest.

[astrokeen]

4 hours ago, Dumuzzi said:

Right now, as I'm writing this, my Crown Chakra is the most active, because wisdom is flowing down from heaven and the top back part of my head is hot to the touch. When I write about spiritual matters the inflow of divine wisdom is just an incredible feeling, sweet, intoxicating and in our physical realm only comparable to making love to a beautiful woman you are in tune and in love with.

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@Dumuzzi, how fantastic! Thank you for this. But 20 odd years meditating before your awakening!!! No wonder people resort to psychedelics as a shortcut. 

On the matter of psychedelics, what would the Gods say about using these to gain a glimpse of reality, other dimensions and the universal soul? It would be very useful to get their advice on how to use the psychedelics to advance on one's spiritual path. You would help many here, including me. I started meditation at the age of 14 and then many attempts off and on which invariably led to frustration and giving up yet again. Only now, several decades later, by using LSD did I experience transcendence. It has strengthened my resolve to meditate consistently  but whether I make any progress remains to be seen.

[Dumuzzi]

1 hour ago, astrokeen said:

@Dumuzzi, how fantastic! Thank you for this. But 20 odd years meditating before your awakening!!! No wonder people resort to psychedelics as a shortcut. 

On the matter of psychedelics, what would the Gods say about using these to gain a glimpse of reality, other dimensions and the universal soul? It would be very useful to get their advice on how to use the psychedelics to advance on one's spiritual path. You would help many here, including me. I started meditation at the age of 14 and then many attempts off and on which invariably led to frustration and giving up yet again. Only now, several decades later, by using LSD did I experience transcendence. It has strengthened my resolve to meditate consistently  but whether I make any progress remains to be seen.

I haven't used psychedelics myself, but for sure some people utilise them with success. The key substance appears to be DMT, which is naturally secreted by the Pineal Gland, especially upon illumination. It is the secretion of DMT which allows the seer to connect to higher realms and communicate with higher beings. This can also be applied synthethically as with Ayahuasca rituals and such. 

I don't think the gods really care how you communicate with them or in what fashion you achieve illumination, the end result would be the same. As long as it helps you progress and isn't unethical, nothing should be off-limits. There are dangers to be aware of, but that is true of all spiritual paths. Even naturally awakening Kundalini through meditation and study can kill you, so it is never 100 percent safe. You just have to take all precautions, trust yourself and the gods and make that leap of faith. Without risk, there can never be a reward.

I should also note that the Vedas were probably written under the influence of psychedelics. There are many mentions of some sort of psychedelic plant that was utilised by ancient rishis, but the exact details have been lost to time. I think any form of DMT, whether natural or synthetic would probably be of great help, but it is just an opinion on my part, I haven't actually tried it and at this point, there would be little point. My pineal gland secretes DMT on a semi-constant basis anyways, so I don't need to take it separately, as a supplement. Yogis will often utilise the Kechari Mudra (pressing your tongue against the back part of the palate) to stimulate the secretion of DMT, but I guess if you can just buy it on the open market, why bother?

[astrokeen]

@Dumuzzi , thanks for your responses. Your situation is extremely intriguing so do excuse the endless questions.

Can you describe how your access to divine communication coupled with a fully awakened kundalini affects your daily life. Presumably, you work for a living and have to relate with a variety of human and challenging situations. Do you, for example, have foresight or intuition to guide you? Do you operate with a meta-awareness wherein you can see yourself in the world and also not as part of it? How do you deal with irritation and anger?

These questions could apply to anyone who has had a full kundalini awakening, of course.

Another question about different types of meditation - are there some which worked for you better, or which according to inanna are more effective, such as Kriya yoga?

 

 

Edited June 10, 2020 by astrokeen

[Dumuzzi]

@Member I don't know about the entities visiting you, but they may be tricksters or parasites. 

In order to shut them out, you would need to raise your vibrations to a sufficiently high level, that they cannot access you.

This also applies to taking DMT, the danger would be, if you took it without first cultivating yourself and raising your vibrations, the beings that might have access to you would be of the lower astral and they can be incredibly hard to get rid of, once they latch on. Neither Kundalini, nor DMT is a cure-all, if it acts in a pathological manner, without the right preparation and state of mind, it can lead to psychotic breaks.

[Dumuzzi]

10 hours ago, astrokeen said:

@Dumuzzi , thanks for your responses. Your situation is extremely intriguing so do excuse the endless questions.

Can you describe how your access to divine communication coupled with a fully awakened kundalini affects your daily life. Presumably, you work for a living and have to relate with a variety of human and challenging situations. Do you, for example, have foresight or intuition to guide you? Do you operate with a meta-awareness wherein you can see yourself in the world and also not as part of it? How do you deal with irritation and anger?

Well, there is an important disctinction here, because although my Kundalini has risen to the top, it is not yet lodged in the Crown chakra. I can raise it with some effort and keep it there for a while, but then it descends again, usually after an hour. Full enlightenment would be the ability to keep the Kundalini lodged in the crown permanently, but very few people have achieved that. Such people are known as Jivanmukta, Boddhisattva or Saints. In art they are usually depicted with a halo around their head, to indicate their permanently illuminated state. According to Gopi Krishna, a person would need to keep their Kundalini raised and lodged in the Crown Chakra for three days and nights. I once got quite close during the summer solstice, but I'm not quite there yet.

When my Kundalini is dormant and resting in the Muladhara, I am just like anybody else, a completely normal person. I do get some special abilities when I raise my Kundalini, but it takes some effort. In my case, I have some healing abilities and have spontaneously exhibited incidents of clairvoyance and precognition, as well as interaction and communication with higher beings. 

Now, it is important to note, that even when the Kundalini serpent itself is dormant and resting, there is in fact a stream of energy that is constantly moving from the genital area along the spine and into the brain. This phenomenon is known as Urdhvareta and is much sought after by Tantrikas. It has a physical aspect, because I produce no semen, it is sucked up into the spinal fluid and absorbed by the brain. 

In terms of my normal state of mind, it is not that different from everybody else's, I am perhaps calmer and more content than most people and my material wants and needs are much diminished. Still, I have to work and pay my bills, just like everybody else.

 

10 hours ago, astrokeen said:

These questions could apply to anyone who has had a full kundalini awakening, of course.

Another question about different types of meditation - are there some which worked for you better, or which according to inanna are more effective, such as Kriya yoga?

 

 

I have developed my own method of meditation, after much experimentation and just stuck with what works best for me. There is nothing interesting or noteworthy about it, no special positions or mantras or anything like that. I simply practice letting go and allow Shakti to rise in me and work through my system, activating and clearing all the energy centres one by one. Depending on the kind of day I've had (stress is a serious hindrance to the activation of Shakti) it will usually take from a half hour to an hour to reach a state in which Shakti is fully flowing and infusing every cell of my body with light energy. The sensation when this is achieved in indescribable, but could perhaps best be compared to a constant, unceasing orgasm, interlaced with feelings of love, benevolence, compassion and an inflow of divine wisdom. It is usually at this point when I connect to heavenly beings and interact with them.

The clearing process, before I can reach this Shakti-infused state is accompanied by periodic convulsions, as energetic muck, which accumulates during the stresses of the day is cleared.

If I'm out in public, the convulsions are barely perceptible, but when at home alone, I allow them to be more intense, for a more thorough cleansing. During this process, my testicles and prostate are overactive and are constantly pumping nervous energy into my brain, via the spinal cord. It is a bit like being electrocuted, I suppose, except extremely pleasant and joyful. Only sexual metaphors can do it justice.

I did practice some Hatha Yoga (as well as Kung Fu and Tai Chi) in my youth, but not on a very serious level. Probably, it was my lack of preparation and guidance from an experienced teacher or Guru that led to many problems down the road, as my Kundalini awakened. However, all these techniques, whether Tantric, Yogic or Breathwork, are all really just preparation. The real deal is working with the Goddess and allowing her to rise in you. I take a theistic approach to awakening / enlightenment and emphasize the importance of surrendering to a higher power.

[Member]

39 minutes ago, Dumuzzi said:

@Member I don't know about the entities visiting you, but they may be tricksters or parasites.

Possibly, though considering that I've been an atheist, often I think that these experiences actually opened my mind... it's like they tried to warn me and tell me "wake the fuck up!". So the outcome was good but the only thing that makes me to not trust is my christian background. And from my point of view, there is only ONE God which is the higher self. I see no reason why I would think there are deities outside of me. But I might be wrong tho, who knows. Life is full of surprises

[Dumuzzi]

22 minutes ago, Member said:

Possibly, though considering that I've been an atheist, often I think that these experiences actually opened my mind... it's like they tried to warn me and tell me "wake the fuck up!". So the outcome was good but the only thing that makes me to not trust is my christian background. And from my point of view, there is only ONE God which is the higher self. I see no reason why I would think there are deities outside of me. But I might be wrong tho, who knows. Life is full of surprises

We're getting into deep philosophical territory here, but in the grand scheme of things there is no inside or outside, deities are part of your existence, whether you acknowledge them or not.

 

In drawings about yoga and tantra, they are usually depicted as living inside you, with each one responsible for a different energy centre, like a gatekeeper. At each centre, you must overcome the challenges given to you and satisfy the gatekeeper deity, that you are ready to move on to the next challlenge. The highest gate is at Sahasrara, which is guarded by Shiva, if I recall. It is at this point that Shakti can finally reunite with Shiva and nonduality is achieved. 

 

There is of course only the Self, which you may call God, but it has many aspects. You are one of those Aspects, but your separation from all the others, including deities, is entirely illusory. 

[Member]

9 minutes ago, Dumuzzi said:

There is of course only the Self, which you may call God, but it has many aspects. You are one of those Aspects, but your separation from all the others, including deities, is entirely illusory. 

Then why do you think these are higher dimensional entities and you're just a 3D creature going on a trip? Maybe they're trying to drag you to these higher realms "right here, right now" not in the afterlife.