MLMs and Law of Attraction

[Forrest Adkins]

While watching the MLM documentary on the blog I asked myself how LoA can be true when 99% of these people lose money.

These people are highly motivated, focused on their goal and convinced they are becoming rich for months (In a "high vibrational state"). Shouldnt this kind of focus and will bring them the money somehow according to LoA? Yet most of these people end up broke.

[Raptorsin7]

I have a feeling that LOA only works for stuff you actually want. You have to be honest to yourself and ask what is that you actually want from this life. I think a lot of people in MLM's want money to fill some sort of emotional/psychological hole. So there wanting and motivation is not authentic. They don't want money. They want the state of being that they think money will grant them. They can't necessarily have the money, but the state of being is always available to us. So LOA will get you what you really want.  

[Nahm]

@Forrest Adkins
Notice how different the experience of other people is, in comparison to the experience of being you. The law of attraction is very similar to enlightenment, in the sense that you are the only one who can realize that you already are. 

[undeather]

Ahh, the law of attraction.
The idea that the universe surcomes to our egoic wishes & needs. You just need to focus hard enough and that wished thing vibrates into existence.
I cant tell you how often I manifested a parking space that way. Literally a game changer.

To be honest, its mostly quackery.
Its a westernized version of a highly complex spiritual phenomenon, butchered into pieces so it fits our egoic narcissism. 
You want this? Grea! Travel to an indian/tibetan monastery, meditate for 30 years and then, maybe then, with extreme luck and tenacity you will develop some kind of siddhi that lets you control this reality in a subtle way. 
 

[Leo Gura]

That MLM stuff is a total bastardization of LoA.

LoA does not mean that you will get what you want via a parasitic pyramid scheme. LoA requries being flexible about how things come to you. You have to be willing to drop the MLM to actualize your dreams.

[Emerald]

Law of Attraction, in the metaphysical sense, is really about mirroring your own internal state to you externally. And the internal state is a lot more than what the ego thinks it wants.

So, Law of Attraction (if true... and my experiences seem to reflect it to be true) is already working its magic.

You just have to know what you really want in order to ride the wave of what you're already attracting. And that wave is geared toward bringing you into alignment with yourself on the relative and absolute level. 

 

 

[mandyjw]

1 hour ago, undeather said:

The idea that the universe surcomes to our egoic wishes & needs. 

So, I was randomly reading about this castle. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/destinations/europe/germany/neuschwanstein-castle-fairy-tale-king-ludwig/ The king who built it was hated and eventually, it seems, murdered for being so extravagant in his lavish spending and plans for it. The castle has since paid for itself many times over in tourism revenue and has awed and inspired millions. 

Was the king's wish to build it truly egoic? Maybe our greatest inspiration is also our greatest gift to the world? Do you chose what inspires you? 

[Forestluv]

I find it interesting that people associate LoA very very closely with personal desire. 

[mandyjw]

Just now, Serotoninluv said:

I find it interesting that people associate LoA very very closely with personal desire. 

Personal, meaning the self or the Self? What's the difference between self and Self in your experience? What is the will of Self? 

[Raptorsin7]

@mandyjw Yea i don't understand his point. What is loa associated with if it's directly associated with personal desire?

Does it work better if you want something for others instead of the little self?

[Nahm]

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[DrewNows]

I desire myself around all freaking day guys, it’s literally a dream, call me selfish if you want, that’s just the story or game you have chosen to play

don’t cling too hard, I swear it’s safe to let yourself go 

“think of the children!”

“silly wabbit, tricks are for kids!” 
 

 

[Forestluv]

25 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

Personal, meaning the self or the Self? 

self

25 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

What's the difference between self and Self in your experience? 

It's hard to find words. I wish I was more of a poet. . . 

I'd say self creates an image of Self, and in doing so there is separation between self and Self. Yet this separation can merge within Now. self is Self. All is Self. 

When I sit by the river, it is so easy to see that the water, clouds, trees and birds are Self. Yet not so easy to see that self is also Self. 

25 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

What is the will of Self? 

I can't formulate or communicate it. This can feel sorrowful. 

[Raptorsin7]

@Serotoninluv Is the will of the self whatever you're drawn to when you are fully present in the moment. When the duality collapses and you can just be?

[mandyjw]

4 minutes ago, Raptorsin7 said:

@mandyjw Yea i don't understand his point. What is loa associated with if it's directly associated with personal desire?

Does it work better if you want something for others instead of the little self?

You cannot want something for others because there are no others, you cannot want something for your self because there is no self. You are always acting out of pure Selfishness or selfishness. Sometimes selfishness feels like jealousy, comparison and threat because you've fragmented yourself between self and others, which cannot be true if we are One. Other times it feels like love, freedom, and wholeness (One) and when you feel great you know you're acting out of Selfishness. 

Ultimately, anything you want is only because of the underlying desire of feeling good. It's not ever the thing itself you want, you want to feel good. Feeling good is also connection with Love, with the One. See how that came full circle? 

[Forestluv]

8 minutes ago, Raptorsin7 said:

@Serotoninluv Is the will of the self whatever you're drawn to when you are fully present in the moment. When the duality collapses and you can just be?

Let's remove that pesky middle-man and see what happens. . . 

8 minutes ago, Raptorsin7 said:

You are fully present in the moment and can just be.

Now we're talkin' . . . 

[mandyjw]

4 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

self

It's hard to find words. I wish I was more of a poet. . . 

I'd say self creates an image of Self, and in doing so there is separation between self and Self. Yet this separation can merge within Now. self is Self. All is Self. 

When I sit by the river, it is so easy to see that the water, clouds, trees and birds are Self. Yet not so easy to see that self is also Self. 

I can't formulate or communicate it. This can feel sorrowful. 

You are loved, you are loved. Self love is also self love. It seems too good to be true but it is. If you love yourself, you will never truly want anything that is wrong or bad for the whole as you are inseparable. This fear that that could is unfounded, it is based in the belief of self and other. 

[Raptorsin7]

@mandyjw Yea that makes sense.

[Forestluv]

@mandyjw Thank you for those kind, beautiful words 

24 minutes ago, Nahm said:

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You rascal 

 

[Raptorsin7]

@mandyjw How do you connect with source then?