French fries

[How to be wise]

In Leo’s shopping episode, he said that if you stay away from wheat and sugar, then you won’t be fat. That’s an interesting claim, but one question still remains: why do people get fat off of eating French fries? As far as I can see, it doesn’t contain a significant amount of either wheat or sugar, even after you fry it. 

[Michael569]

cmon dude...

 

 

[Nickyy]

@How to be wise Trans fats? Oil is probably one of the most toxic foods we know about.... Oil that's been heated over and over again is even more toxic. 

But gaining weight is the least of your worries if you eat a lot of trans fats on a regular basis. Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, cancer, dementia all linked to eating trans fats 

[Rigel]

How about you don't take Leo's word so litteraly. There's litteraly thousands of perspective that you have to take into account and check with your direct experience. 

[Preety_India]

French fries contain high amount of carbohydrates. 

High carb diet leads to fattening over time. Won't happen overnight though 

 

 

[TrynaBeTurquoise]

The frying with shitty heat-damaged oils is much worse for your body than sugar, which most people don't realize. That being said, fries are a simple fast digesting carbohydrate, they spike your blood sugar quickly and hardly provide any nutrients. 

[Raptorsin7]

@TrynaBeTurquoise Are the trans-fat oils more likely to cause diabetes or high sugar diets? What's worse for diabetes high sugar/low trans-fat or low sugar/high-trans fat?

[TrynaBeTurquoise]

3 hours ago, Raptorsin7 said:

@TrynaBeTurquoise Are the trans-fat oils more likely to cause diabetes or high sugar diets? What's worse for diabetes high sugar/low trans-fat or low sugar/high-trans fat?

Both sugar and trans fat will cause diabetes and are likely to be found in the similar types of low quality food habits. A person who develops diabetes based on their food choices and life style will most always be consuming high amounts of processed sugar and low quality fats (which maybe aren't necessarily trans fats, but their saturated fat intake is probably too high) so the "low sugar-high trans fat" option doesn't exist. Cant think of any scenario where a person is keeping their blood sugar in check (which takes conscious eating habits) but is somehow consuming tons of trans fat. 

[Michael569]

14 hours ago, Preety_India said:

High carb diet leads to fattening over time. Won't happen overnight though 

It is good to distinguish between types of carbohydrates. High carb diet (such as Barnard or Ornish model) can reverse diabetes and heart disease however your carbs have to come from wholefood complex sources. I agree that high (processed) carbs will make you sick. Let's not throw everything in single bucket

Edited December 8, 2019 by Michael569

[Bill W]

14 minutes ago, Meta-Man said:

What nonsense. Starch is the foundation in the diet of every successful civilization. No starch, no civiliations. Without starches we’d still be picking berries and bowhunting all day. No starch = no prosperity. Agriculture a.k.a. grain harvesting is over 8000 years old. Obesity in the common man is a new phenomena created by fiberless, processed «foods» drenched in fat. French fries being a good example of that.

 

You giving us a history lesson doesn't make her post any less valid. The only thing she could of emphasised is CAN lead to fattening. Unless your an athlete high carb diets can be trouble and it's a danger many obese people aren't fully aware of. 

Edited December 10, 2019 by Bill W

[TrynaBeTurquoise]

1 hour ago, Meta-Man said:

What nonsense. Starch is the foundation in the diet of every successful civilization. No starch, no civiliations. Without starches we’d still be picking berries and bowhunting all day. No starch = no prosperity. Agriculture a.k.a. grain harvesting is over 8000 years old. Obesity in the common man is a new phenomena created by fiberless, processed «foods» drenched in fat. French fries being a good example of that.

 

Starch is a great addition to the diet but not the foundation to a diet. Thats a swing and a miss. Protein (amino acids) is the most essential thing your body needs, then healthy fat sources, then you can introduce carbs in the picture. 

[rNOW]

Here's the thing: French fries by themselves don't make you fat. BUT if you only eat french fries, it means zero dietary fibers. This applies to all foods, when it is fried, all fibers go away. It doesn't directly make you fat, it deposits the fat in liver and may get converted to toxins and also cause constipation which may lead to many other diseases. 

Make a rule that if you wish to eat french fries, you will go buy potatoes, peel them yourself and cut them, soak them, refrigerate them and fry them into fries yourself, and that would put you off the whole idea of french fries or make a promise to yourself that you would eat only fibers following the next two meals after french fries. 

Your body is a system. If you put something in, make sure you know how to get it out. Otherwise don't. 

[TrynaBeTurquoise]

14 hours ago, Meta-Man said:

False, actual protein requirements are really low and easy to get with starches only, same with fats. Your cells run on glucose. I say it is the foundation because that’s where the majority of the human population get 60%+ of their energy.

Yes it does. She even used french fries as an example, which are potatoes soaked in fat. 

When people think of carbs they tend to think of donuts and chocolate etc that are actually very high in fat, which shows a lack in education.

If carbs are fattening, how come all the high carb starch munching populations of the past and present are slim? Why is it that those populations get the same obesity issues and diseases as us as soon they get ‘westernized’? 

You are mistaken. Starch technically has protein, but incomplete protein, lacking all the essential amino acids. You couldn't be optimally healthy with only starch, its not possible. And protein in general can be used as glucose so your point is moot. 

[Amandine]

On 11/12/2019 at 4:11 PM, rNOW said:

@rNOW if you only eat french fries, it means zero dietary fibers. This applies to all foods, when it is fried, all fibers go away. 

Not ALL fiber, but some fiber may be destroyed during frying (and not just frying but cooking the food too much in general, whether boiling, baking, etc).

The dietary fiber content of potatoes is actually increased after frying due to resistant starch being formed.

Spuds already contain moderate amounts of fiber (and obviously more if you leave the skins on). 
 

Edited December 15, 2019 by Amandine