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Name a spiritual teacher who uses " we" or "I" statements more than " you" statements

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a) Name a spiritual teacher who uses " I " statements more than " you" statements

b) Name a spiritual teacher who uses "we" statements more than " you" statements
 

I think the way certain ideas are expressed are absorbed in different ways by selection of  which pronouns is used

There is also the word "people" that can be used in a similar way

If somebody is speaking and they say "you" dozens of times it begins to annoys me.
Yet in advising other people I often use "you"  myself.  

 

 

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a) Ralph Smart, first person, "whats helped me along my journey" 

b) Im not sure. 

If you get annoyed by someone saying "you" in a youtube video for example, take a step back and realize that they are just referring to their general audience and aren't calling you out personally. Or if its person, they could still be using "you" in a general sense, so don't take it personally.


"Started from the bottom and I just realized I'm still there since the money and the fame is an illusion" -Drake doing self-inquiry

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The pronouns “I” and “you” are transcended at an LOC score of 847. 

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If someone says "I " and proceeds to talk about themselves you can learn about how they interact with the world and may relate it to your own life. 

But if someone says "you"  it could be an audience where it's not personal to you but you are still assumed to be of a certain mentality.
The speaker often tries to generalize about who they are speaking to, is this a group of children, is it a group of soldiers, is it a group of doctors, a group of Republicans, Democrats, a group of people who are familiar with my work and like it, a group of people who think I'm wrong

They speak assuming things about who is in the audience.

"We"  communicates "you are like me"  but "you" does not have that tinge 
 

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17 minutes ago, modmyth said:

I was trained not to use the "royal we" when I was in academia

The other day I used a “royal let’s”. . . “Ok, let’s clean the laboratory before holiday break”. . .  I caught myself and thought “crap, I guess I gotta help out now”. 

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6 minutes ago, modmyth said:

I think I would have somehow found a way to evade that.

Oooh, we haven’t started yet. . . . You’ve inspired me to find a way out.

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It would help a great deal if you (we) realized that I = you = we ;)

Then we (you) would be free to use whatever words came to mind.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It would help a great deal if you (we) realized that I = you = we ;)

 

that's o.k. if you realize it it's the same thing

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it doesn`t matter, i, you, we it all means love.... although it`s interesting to try to not use the "i" word for a time, because if it`s not used it`s sometimes not existent. it`s an "it" then, and we could wonder, what is it then? we could marvel on that "it" or be offended. what is the difference between the "i" talking about "i" or the "i" talking about "you"? sometimes the you is just a generalization "i" make for example, because you actually means me or it means how "we" generally act or could act, it doesn`t mean in that sense you it doesn`t mean in that sense "i" it just means that the "i" identifies if "it" gets offended or attracted.

and then there is the "i" that talks about emotions and experiences, because it wants to address "you" to interconnect as a "we"  and isn`t really aware of what pointers it uses to get to that point. but to get to the point of a we experience where i meets i. like  i i  we all probably can still learn on how we use the identification pointer to maximize love=you/we.

(try to put an i everywhere where the "you, we, it" is exchangeable for a starter, let`s better not get too neurotic over it though - sometimes people just say what they say and sometimes "it" is love)

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This particular teacher especially promotes the opening of the crown (purple) and heart(green) chakras. 


My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost

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purple is sacral chakra. it`s crown for children though.

(and yes it is connected to the sexual organs - in sense of family connection tribe, descendants, relationship to father mother, role models and psychology but also the first connection to nature and being a descendant of earth/metaphysics)

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2 hours ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

@Nak Khid

In our group meeting (12 Steps) we are advised to only speak in I. I can easily see why, because I can truly only know things for certain about myself, and all else is intrusive speculation.

interesting, good example

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6 hours ago, mandyjw said:

This particular teacher especially promotes the opening of the crown (purple) and heart(green) chakras. 

???

I heard this song 50 million times when my son was little!


“You don’t have problems; you are the problem.”

– Swami Chinmayananda

Namaste ? ?

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12 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

???

I heard this song 50 million times when my son was little!

 

6 hours ago, mandyjw said:

This particular teacher especially promotes the opening of the crown (purple) and heart(green) chakras. 

Notice that Barnaji doesn't only use "you" 
It's a balanced mix between  "I",  "you", "me". "we" , "family

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