Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) @cetus56 which is true: 1) there is no God, that is a fantasy 2) God is everything and you and I are God 3) God is everything. We are only tiny particles in the body God 4) God is an entity and we are a separate entity Edited November 13, 2019 by Nak Khid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @Nak Khid Which ever you believe to be true. Look for instance what is True for Michael. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @Mikael89 You are that which does not change... think about this though. “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, Nak Khid said: @cetus56 which is true: 1) there is no God, that is a fantasy 2) God is everything and you and I are God 3) God is everything. We are only tiny particles in the body God 4) God is an entity and we are a separate entity 11 minutes ago, cetus56 said: @Nak Khid Which ever you believe to be true. Look for instance what is True for Michael. Ok, so what ever is believed is true. Interesting theory, all beliefs are true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @Nak Khid Truth is what is - exactly as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, Nak Khid said: Ok, so what ever is believed is true. Interesting theory, all beliefs are true Prior to thinking the Consciousness that is looking around and observing everything. That is you!! It's you experiencing yourself(universe) through human form. Its that simple ❤ “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 In my experience it is very simple. No need to complicate things. For there to be a You, there must be limitations. God has none. Only when there is no God and no notion of it; God is. Therefore You cannot be God. You can only be You. God can only be God. This does not imply separation. Title of this thread is tricky but very simple and accurate. So simple; the truth of it can easily be overlooked and unrecognized. Unseen. It can also trigger the crap out of YOU; who desperately wants to believe and prove that You, in fact, are God. It's rather funny Truth requires no belief. Breath in, breathe out. Do you have to believe anything in order to breathe? Check My Music Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ivankiss said: In my experience it is very simple. No need to complicate things. For there to be a You, there must be limitations. God has none. Only when there is no God and no notion of it; God is. Therefore You cannot be God. You can only be You. God can only be God. This does not imply separation. Does separation exist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @Nak Khid Can you feel/sense no separation. It is like really powerful feeling. If don't meditation is the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) @Nak Khid Does anything exist? Yes and No. Depends on you and your view. If there is you, you sure can have an experience of separation and it will be real to you. Absolutely speaking, there is no separation because the limitation itself is made out of the same "substance". That which seperates one from the other IS one and the other. And so there is no one and no other. That which "separates" God from God is the notion of God. That is why "I AM GOD" is "false". It's true in a sense, but it's very sloppy. And misleading for those still seeking. It is not the "Highest Truth", as some of you like putting it. The "Highest Truth" is that there is no God. But that's way too hard to grasp and swallow for the one who has developed an ultra spiritual ego. There's no fun in that for it. It loses its superior position and is forced down off of its imaginary throne. That's why it rather clings to the idea of it being God as hard and as long as it can. If you think about it, that's a dream come true for the ego. To be The Highest. The Wisest. The Almighty One. GOD. It's easy to see through it. It's also hilarious Edited November 13, 2019 by ivankiss Check My Music Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 > The "Highest Truth" is that there is no God. What about Love? Is there Love? What a dream, what a joke, love it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @dimitri It's the same. This is just about letting go of the ideas about God or Love. Disarming the one who believes there is a war. Not making an identity out of God or Love. Not trying to capture it or contain it. Love can easily be used as a justification for cruelty by the spiritual ego. Just like God. "Everything is love after all". Which is really just the individual saying; "I do not know how to consciously love myself and others." It's not that there actually is no God or Love. It's just that there must be no clinging to the idea of those. Once you let go of Love and God; Love and God is all there is. You feel me? Check My Music Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @ivankiss I feel you bro. Belief is not the best instrument for letting go of other beliefs. Practices are better suited here, not another belief. But thanks for the reminder that "You are God" or "All is Love" can be easily misused by using them as a shield, by clinging to them. What a dream, what a joke, love it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @dimitri Yup. "There is no God" or "You are not God" can be easily turned into a belief, as well. And that's another trap. Not trying to sell beliefs here. Just balancing things out in my own way. Check My Music Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, ivankiss said: @dimitri It's not that there actually is no God or Love. It's just that there must be no clinging to the idea of those. Once you let go of Love and God; Love and God is all there is. You feel me? Amazing! ??❤️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @ivankiss ?❤️ What a dream, what a joke, love it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ivankiss said: @dimitri Yup. "There is no God" or "You are not God" can be easily turned into a belief, as well. And that's another trap. Not trying to sell beliefs here. Just balancing things out in my own way. I am not sure about your meaning of "beliefs" , but Faith cannot be sold. It is a gift from God. God-of-all-creations. It is dependant on your fate. What is Faith? A complete clarity in your heart about God. Without doubts. ? My definition of God = Allah, the Creator of you and me, and everything in between. He Who controls everything. Not anything like 'creations' either. Who Encompasses all. Actually there is no other way to Allah except Faith. This is what i've noticed. Or else you would forever associate God with everything. It is unavoidable. Edited November 13, 2019 by Angelite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 @peanutspathtotruth @dimitri much love and respect ? @Angelite Faith is great. An honest, pure relationship with God is beautiful. Beliefs or no beliefs. Praying from the heart is also wonderful. All the best to you. ? Check My Music Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 This is my personal understanding of God: God is everything. Everything that we can see, hear, smell, taste, touch, imagine and much more. God is all inclusive, God is absolutely everything and is everywhere and has many forms. Because God is everything, we are a part of God and therefore we have some of God’s powers. But only small powers because we’re only a small part of God. There are many much more powerful parts of God than we are. God rewards us or punishes us based on our actions. When we do good, we get rewarded, when we do bad, we get punished. The confusing bit is that sometimes we get hurt by people that use their power to do bad but if we still do good we get compensated while the person that does bad still gets punished. Sometimes, we do some bad and some good things, so we get some reward and some punishment. The more we understand God and do good, the more we get rewarded, the more we create a bit of “heaven” on Earth for us and others. I have an opinion on everything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JustThinkingAloud said: God rewards us or punishes us based on our actions. When we do good, we get rewarded, when we do bad, we get punished. it's not really a "reward" or a "punishment" but it can help to think in those terms... especially when teaching someone to act a certain way or to discipline kids. but it's just karma in play if you touch a hot stove - the punishment is the burn if you drink cold water when you're thirsty - the reward is the quenching of that thirst if you are nice to others, have to fights/arguments - the reward is having pleasant dealings and a simple life (still no gurantee - but still not to shaky) if you slap someone, they will slap you back (punishment) if you help someone, they will say thank you (reward) it's all built into it. every action has an equal and opposite reaction up, down left, right hot, cold so rake in those rewards whether God is rewarding or it's the natural law - one thing is for certain, we are rewarded / punished accordingly. the sender of the reward/punishment can be taken out of the equation. and focus maintained on the work/action which increases rewards and decreases punishments. ♥ Love Is The Answer ♥ www.instagram.com/ev3rSunny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
