Posted November 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Natasha said: That's our residential enlightenment quoter Eputkonen from EngagedNonduality. Didn't know he made vids too. Cool, will check them out I believe that his paper trick is a perfect example of a analogical fallacy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAYA EL said: I believe that his paper trick is a perfect example of a analogical fallacy On top of that he believes nonduality exists! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Can we get back on topic a) Either God is You or b) God is not You Edited November 12, 2019 by Nak Khid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, Nak Khid said: Can we get back on topic a) Either God is You or b) God is not You ⬆Distraction~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nak Khid said: what's the name of the lower dog on the mat? you failed to see that s/he is in the center of the picture. Edited November 12, 2019 by remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) This is Me. This is God, it is you. Stop being a donkey. You are whole Ocean not a wave not a drop, whole no thing. No more games it feels like Truth it feels like God it feels like Love. Edited November 12, 2019 by zeroISinfinity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 but where does the tree end and the apple begin? they are the same being until the apple detaches from the tree. Is the apple not still the tree because of the connection at the stem? when the stem is severed they become separate, but what has changed? “It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.” ― Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 Good post. Otherwise the individual tends to think it's somehow more than the individual, but it isn't. The body-mind personality is a perception which is completely absent 'there'. In the same way the universe isn't created out of imagination (albeit it is imagination), as that seems to imply someone imagining a universe really hard and then creating it. It just appears out of itself with no volition at all, it appears out of profound magicness nothing, albeit it does consciously care for itself thereafter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 10 hours ago, MusicalPotato said: but where does the tree end and the apple begin? they are the same being until the apple detaches from the tree. Is the apple not still the tree because of the connection at the stem? when the stem is severed they become separate, but what has changed? the umbilical cord? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 15 hours ago, Angelite said: ⬆Distraction~ look at the thread topic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 There is no God, in any sense that would imply an 'other'. There is no God of what IS. There just IS, THIS. Check out my lucid dreaming anthology series, Stars of Clay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, Nak Khid said: look at the thread topic Because I thought the thread has reached to a conclusion? I think it's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, seeking_brilliance said: There is no God, in any sense that would imply an 'other'. There is no God of what IS. There just IS, THIS. Exactly. And I see that by saying God, this is where some try to point to. But it doesn't help, and to say it's ultimately true is just another concept, which confuses many people. I get now why certain mystics talked the way they did - or didn't want to talk at all. At some point you have to cut off the very underlying mind that tries to get anywhere else than HERE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Angelite said: Because I thought the thread has reached to a conclusion? I think it's done. Ivankiss who started the topic says God is not you but Leo and may others say God is you so there is not conclusion Maybe Ivanskiss can elaborate on where we're at Edited November 13, 2019 by Nak Khid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, peanutspathtotruth said: Exactly. And I see that by saying God, this is where some try to point to. But it doesn't help, and to say it's ultimately true is just another concept, which confuses many people. I get now why certain mystics talked the way they did - or didn't want to talk at all. At some point you have to cut off the very underlying mind that tries to get anywhere else than HERE. So true ?...The Mind runs on its own conditioned program like muscle memory. One can sit in Conscious awareness and observe the ego doing its thing. We think we are controlling its thoughts but we aren't... it just runs on autopilot. ❤ 7 minutes ago, Mikael89 said: I'm not God because I can't dissolve the universe and create a new one. I can't even manifest a gf or a pen from thin air. And I can't give myself super vision so I could get rid of my glasses. Simple as that. What if you realized you already were the universe and there's nothing outside of you? ? Edited November 13, 2019 by VeganAwake “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mikael89 said: I'm not God because I can't dissolve the universe and create a new one. I can't even manifest a gf or a pen from thin air. And I can't give myself super vision so I could get rid of my glasses. Simple as that. You assume that the universe was created rather than always existed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mikael89 said: I don't even have free will, yet you people say that I'm God ? How do you know you don't have free will? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mikael89 said: I don't even have free will, yet you people say that I'm God ? You may not have free will but you can set an intention within the material/relative realm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nak Khid said: How do you know you don't have free will? 2 minutes ago, Mikael89 said: Because people say that I don't have it, so they must be right. seriously, this is your reasoning? Edited November 13, 2019 by Nak Khid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mikael89 said: I don't even have free will, yet you people say that I'm God ? The "I" that you are referring to is your conditioned character aka false self. You don't have free will because it's not you. It runs on conditioned autopilot mode going in circles.(Suffering) Discovering the true self as conscious awareness, that which is prior to thought. You can sit back and observe the ego run on this conditioned autopilot mode I describe. When you stop identifying with this false conditioned self, Its the end of suffering. Isn't this what you're seeking? “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
