Biden vs Bloomberg, who would win ?

[Nak Khid]

Biden vs Bloomberg, Who would win ?

 

 

[ajasatya]

@Nak Khid What do you think? And why? Please avoid shallow threads. I've said it other day... this is not Quora.

[Nak Khid]

Bloomberg is now considering joining the race, the front runner is BIden
I haven't reviewed Bloomberg positions closely but he seems like he would be similar to Biden . At this point he is known for being a gun control advocate and somewhat concerned about climate issues.
Biden seems to be the front runner at the moment but the candidates are close.
Bloomberg's personality seems slightly less annoying to me than Biden's and

I predict Biden would win but it could be very close.  I think Bloomberg would have to add more nationally relevant issues in addition to  gun control. He does have huge financial resources as well owns a large media company
 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2019 by Nak Khid

[Nak Khid]

 

 

 

Mayor de Blasio disses Mike Bloomberg’s presidential ambitions

By Shant Shahrigian

New York Daily News |

Nov 11, 2019

Mayor de Blasio said Monday there’s “no way” his predecessor Mike Bloomberg should be the Democratic presidential nominee.

“This is a Democratic Party today that’s getting more progressive, that wants to address the concerns of working people, that does not accept the status quo," de Blasio told reporters alongside the Veterans Day Parade in Midtown. “There’s no way in the world we should nominate a billionaire who epitomizes the status quo.”

Hizzoner praised Bloomberg, who began taking serious steps to enter the race last week, for Bloomberg’s action on issues like climate change and gun control.

But de Blasio, who put an end to his humiliating presidential run in September, slammed Bloomberg for allegedly falling short of areas de Blasio himself has prioritized.

“I think when he was mayor he had no understanding of the inequality crisis,” de Blasio said. “I think he was absolutely tone deaf to what working people were going through in this city and there’s a number of other areas where he had a chance to do something and he just did not make it a priority.”

Still, de Blasio said a Bloomberg vs. President Trump contest would be a no-brainer.

“Would he be better than Donald trump? Of course,” de Blasio said. “Should he be the democratic nominee? No.”

[Annoynymous]

I think both are gonna loose.

[Nak Khid]

20 minutes ago, Annoynymous said:

I think both are gonna loose.

Who do you predict will win the democratic nomination?

[Annoynymous]

@Nak Khid hard to predict.

I want sanders to win.

But he is gonna face some tough compitition for sure.

[Nak Khid]

42 minutes ago, Annoynymous said:

@Nak Khid hard to predict.

I want sanders to win.

But he is gonna face some tough compitition for sure.

want is not reality. At this point it is a close race and Biden may be slightly stronger in the polls. 
If Bernie has another heart issue before March it could raise doubts in voters minds

 

 

Latest 2020 General Election Polls

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/

[Annoynymous]

Elections are long away bro.

Polls mean nothing now, really.

Maybe we can predict a bit after march 2020

With the primaries, you never know for sure what's gonna happen.

[Nak Khid]

Biden or Bloomberg are more moderate than Sanders

Trump was elected

either the masses now want Trump Lite

or a bigger change

The primary election begins early next year, with the start of the Iowa first-in-the-nation caucuses on Feb. 3, 2020.
Super Tuesday is March 3rd

 

[Nak Khid]

Nov 24

Michael Bloomberg launches Democratic presidential bid

By STEVE PEOPLES

 

NEW YORK (AP) — Billionaire and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, one of the world’s richest men, has formally launched a Democratic bid for president.

Full Coverage: Election 2020

Ending weeks of speculation, the 77-year-old former Republican announced his candidacy Sunday in a written statement posted on a campaign website describing himself as uniquely positioned to defeat President Donald Trump. He will quickly follow with a massive advertising campaign blanketing airways in key primary states across the U.S.

“I’m running for president to defeat Donald Trump and rebuild America,” Bloomberg wrote.

“We cannot afford four more years of President Trump’s reckless and unethical actions,” he continued. “He represents an existential threat to our country and our values. If he wins another term in office, we may never recover from the damage.”

Bloomberg’s entrance comes just 10 weeks before primary voting begins, an unorthodox move that reflects anxiety within the Democratic Party about the strength of its current candidates.

As a centrist with deep ties to Wall Street, Bloomberg is expected to struggle among the party’s energized progressive base. He became a Democrat only last year. Yet his tremendous resources and moderate profile could be appealing in a primary contest that has become, above all, a quest to find the person best-positioned to deny Trump a second term next November.

Forbes ranked Bloomberg as the 11th-richest person in the world last year with a net worth of roughly $50 billion. Trump, by contrast, was ranked 259th with a net worth of just over $3 billion.

Already, Bloomberg has vowed to spend at least $150 million of his fortune on various pieces of a 2020 campaign, including more than $100 million for internet ads attacking Trump, between $15 million and $20 million on a voter registration drive largely targeting minority voters, and more than $30 million on an initial round of television ads.

He did not say how much he would be willing to spend overall on his presidential ambitions, but senior adviser Howard Wolfson did: “Whatever it takes to defeat Donald Trump.”

Wolfson also said that Bloomberg would not accept a single political donation for his campaign or take a salary should he become president.

Even before the announcement was final, Democratic rivals like Bernie Sanders pounced on Bloomberg’s plans to rely on his personal fortune.

“We do not believe that billionaires have the right to buy elections,” Sanders said as he campaigned in New Hampshire on Sunday. He continued: “That is why multibillionaires like Mr. Bloomberg are not going to get very far in this election.”

Elizabeth Warren, another leading progressive candidate, also slammed Bloomberg on Saturday for trying to buy the presidency.

“I understand that rich people are going to have more shoes than the rest of us, they’re going to have more cars than the rest of us, they’re going to have more houses,” she said after a campaign stop in Manchester, New Hampshire. “But they don’t get a bigger share of democracy, especially in a Democratic primary. We need to be doing the face-to-face work that lifts every voice.”

Bloomberg does not speak in his announcement video, which casts him as a successful businessman who came from humble roots and ultimately “put his money where his heart is” to effect change on the top policy issues of the day — gun violence, climate change, immigration and equality, among them.

Bloomberg has devoted tens of millions of dollars to pursue his policy priorities in recent years, producing measurable progress in cities and states across America. He has helped shutter 282 coal plants in the United States and organized a coalition of American cities on track to cut 75 million metric tons of carbon emissions by 2025.

But he is far from a left-wing ideologue.

Bloomberg has declined to embrace Medicare for All as a health care prescription or the “Green New Deal” to combat climate change, favoring a more pragmatic approach.

 

Still, he has endeared himself to many of the nation’s mayors, having made huge investments to help train local officials and encouraging them to take action on climate, guns and immigration in particular.

Ahead of Bloomberg’s presidential announcement, the mayors of Columbia, South Carolina, and Louisville, Kentucky, endorsed him. Despite that show of support from at least one prominent black leader, Bloomberg may have trouble building a multi-racial coalition early on given his turbulent record on race relations in New York.

He angered many minority voters during his 12 years in the New York City mayor’s office for embracing and defending the controversial “stop-and-frisk” police strategy, despite its disproportionate impact on people of color. Facing an African-American congregation this month in Brooklyn, Bloomberg apologized and acknowledged it often led to the detention of blacks and Latinos.

The apology was received skeptically by many prominent activists who noted that it was made as he was taking steps to enter the race.

The campaign will be headquartered in Manhattan and managed by longtime adviser Kevin Sheekey. Wolfson will also play a senior role.

Bloomberg’s team did not establish a super PAC before launching the campaign, preferring to run the primary campaign and a simultaneous set of general election-focused moves like the anti-Trump internet ads and voter registration drive out of the same office.

The path ahead may be decidedly uphill and unfamiliar.

Bloomberg plans to bypass the first four states on the primary calendar — Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina — and focus instead on the crush of states that vote on Super Tuesday and beyond. It’s a strategy that acknowledges the limitations of entering the race at this late stage and the opportunities afforded by his vast personal wealth.

His team has noted that several candidates have devoted much of the year to building support on the ground in the earliest states, and Bloomberg needs to be realistic about where he can make up ground.

Nearly a quarter of primary delegates are up for grabs in the March 3 Super Tuesday contests, which have gotten far less attention so far.

Bloomberg has openly considered a presidential bid before, but as an independent. He declined to enter the 2016 contest only after deciding there was no path to victory without the backing of a major political party.

He explored a run earlier this year, too, but decided there was no path with establishment-favorite Joe Biden in the race. Biden’s perceived weakness, along with the rise of progressive firebrand Warren, convinced him to reconsider.

“We believe that voters are increasingly concerned that the field is not well positioned to defeat Donald Trump,” Wolfson said of Bloomberg’s decision to change his mind.

Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway actually praised Bloomberg’s tenure as mayor when asked about his announcement Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” But she said his entrance into the 2020 race “means the Democratic field is underwhelming.”

Should Bloomberg ultimately become the nominee to take on Trump, she said, “We’re ready.”

Conway cast doubt on whether he’d be welcomed by Democratic voters.

Initially registered as a Democrat, Bloomberg, a Massachusetts native, filed paperwork to change his voter registration to Republican in 2000 before his first run for New York City mayor, according to a spokesman. In June 2007, he unenrolled from the GOP, having no formal party affiliation until he registered again as a Democrat this October.

While some will question his newfound commitment to Democrats, he vowed allegiance to the party in an Associated Press interview earlier in the year, saying, “I will be a Democrat for the rest of my life.”

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Associated Press writer Hunter Woodall in Manchester, New Hampshire,

 

[Nak Khid]

I'm not voting for him but this race just changed

[Apparition of Jack]

@Nak Khid Just FYI, it's probably best not to just copy+paste entire articles and post them here. Most people won't read them that way and important information will get overlooked.

Maybe try just posting the link and maybe one or two crucial paragraphs instead next time.

[Leo Gura]

Bloomberg got no chance to win Dem nomination. He might as well burn that $150 mil.

[Tanz]

Does not matter because if the dems choose Biden or Bloomberg... they will both lose to Trump.  

The three that will beat Trump are Bernie, Yang, and Gabbard...I think Castro might too he would get a lot of latino and blacks for him.
 

[SerpaeTetra]

On 11/24/2019 at 11:43 PM, Leo Gura said:

Bloomberg got no chance to win Dem nomination. He might as well burn that $150 mil.

Can you provide specifics?  I like Sanders as the Dem nominee, but why do you think Bloomberg has no chance?  I think his policies might resonate with the average joe, as compared to some of the more extreme democratic health care plans.

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, SerpaeTetra said:

why do you think Bloomberg has no chance?

I don't think Dems are interested in a centrist billionaire.

Bloomberg has no base of support. The people who might support him already got Biden and Buttigeg, and the Warren and Sanders and Yang supporters will never accept Bloomberg.

Bloomberg will not make any of the debates. He just wants to buy the election, which I think voters are too smart to tolerate. Bloomberg offers nothing new.

The real problem here is that Bloomberg might simply use the Dems as a launching point for a 3rd party run, which could be a big problem in the general election. Seems like Bloomberg is not truly running to win the Dem primary but to set himself up as a 3rd party after the Dem is selected. There's just no way Bloomberg will overtake Bernie, Warren, or Biden. Biden may be a centrist but at least he's someone people can relate to. Bloomberg is gonna look like an elitist asshole. The Rust Belt is not going to vote for him.