About iboga

[rnd]

1) How does iboga compare to 5-meo-dmt, in a nutshell? Better, worse, weaker, completely different, etc?

2) Is it safe for a newbie to start off with it as opposed to other psyhedelics?

3) Is iboga legal in some African countries and is grown there too?

Edited November 9, 2019 by rnd

[Leo Gura]

Don't even think about it.

[rnd]

Why not?

[fridjonk]

@rnd Because it's not a newbie psychedelic, for advanced users only. 

[mikelyons]

If you don't know how to get mushrooms, I don't know how in the heckle you'd know how to get iboga ...

[louvar]

There have been clinics in the that have treated heroin or  such other drug users with iboga use. Although that was a controlled study

[Nak Khid]

7 hours ago, rnd said:

1) How does iboga compare to 5-meo-dmt, in a nutshell? Better, worse, weaker, completely different, etc?

2) Is it safe for a newbie to start off with it as opposed to other psyhedelics?

3) Is iboga legal in some African countries and is grown there too?

very few people have taken ibogaine it so you will probably not get a first hand account. The effects can last for days

The primary effects of 5-MeO-DMT last approximately 5-20 minutes when smoked, 30-45 minutes when insufflated. For many people there is an additional period of time (1-2 hrs) before fully returning to baseline.

These differences in duration are important considerations

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Fatalities have been associated with the use of ibogaine; concomitant opioid use and comorbidities (eg, cardiovascular disease, depression, posttraumatic stress disorder, anxiety, stress, schizophrenia, epilepsy, or other imbalances in the autonomic nervous system) increase the risk of life-threatening complications including sudden cardiac death. Ibogaine should only be used under the supervision of an experienced health care provider.

Mild acute effects occur frequently and include nausea, vomiting, ataxia, tremors, headaches, and mental confusion. Manic episodes lasting 1 to 2 weeks have also been reported and manifested as sleeplessness, irritability, impulsivity, emotional lability, grandiose delusions, rapid tangential speech, aggressive behavior, and suicidal ideation.

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Because of the somewhat unpredictable nature of 5-MeO-DMT, a sitter is definitely recommended. 5-MEO-DMT is more potent than DMT, and may also cause stronger side effects. There are not many studies on it compared to the very different DMT (despite the same name part)

 

[TrynaBeTurquoise]

I would only resort to Iboga if you have a seriously debilitating drug addiction, and would go to a specialized clinic for it. 

[Quantum Toad]

Tabernanthe iboga seems to have more promising and life-changing results than any psychedelic i have experienced or read about thus far. I have read and seen some amazing results. It is said to be the Grandfather of plant medicines. Many have described and said they wouldn't even class it as a psychedelic, rather a true entheogen(plant medicine) due to how powerful and effective it is, where most people only need a full (flood) dose once, while with other psychedelics can take multiple sessions to reach such a deep reset to where you no longer need the substance.

Some have also experimented and stated that micro-dosing Iboga is far more effective than traditional psychedelics to which one can reach deeper insights and levels of self-awareness with a micro-dose (250mg to 500mg of rootbark powder) to which is in comparison to a medium level trip on traditional psychedelics(LSD, Psilocybin, Ayahuasca, Mescaline) ect.. while being lucid and able to do daily tasks. Pairing with Cannabis has also shown exceptional results similar to higher doses of Iboga alone.

For Addictions, Trauma, Disorders, it seems Iboga is Unparalleled. A potent anti-depressant which can last in your body up to 6 months, although after effects can last a lifetime depending on your lifestyle. One article stated that while psychedelics like Ayahuasca take you farther into the cosmos and universe, Iboga takes you deeper into the core of your being. This is why it is said with Iboga you can actually integrate the experiences more effectively because it doesn't take you beyond your core self/earth life (what is actually relevant in the here and now), while others focus more on cosmic and universal truths beyond this life and realm which can be a struggle to integrate and translate into earth-based frequency/lifestyle or language. There however have been some fatalities with Iboga because it can build up in your system and interact negatively with some medication/supplementation similar to ayahuasca, so best do your research and under the guidance of a Iboga shaman would be most wise.

Would be interesting to see someone who has tried both Iboga and 5-Meo to compare especially with a EEG machine to scan and compare brainwaves. I wouldn't think its wise to comment on both if one has not experienced both directly. Although based on what i have read, Iboga seems to be more successful than 5-Meo or any psychedelic for that matter, especially when it comes to Addiction, Trauma, Psychological Disorders and our general physical life on Earth.

I think its still fresh because its more rare to come by and the few horror stories keeping most uneducated people away, but if you really do your research, you will be amazed, most people actually have amazing experiences, especially when following proper shamanistic and medical/diet guidelines and proper set/setting as Iboga although, is predominantly a Masculine energy, it also provides Feminine energies if necessary, so it will provide what you need most, a true plant medicine. It effects seem to go hand in hand with deep meditation/introspection/self-realization.

Hope this helps clear things up.

 

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by Quantum Toad