We eat our colds ?

[remember]

9 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

I’m defensive because people like to attack him based off his background and stuff, even though he’s working miracles and giving people answers that doctors chock up to autoimmune diseases etc. when people learn why they aren’t healthy they can finally take back their power and stop handing it over to the medical doctors and relying on pharmaceuticals 

it`s completely ok - he says a lot of intelligent stuff, but be  aware that people who might want to selfactualize with tumors - means doing the whole therapy on their own might fall into wrong beliefs of being able to handle their illness without a doctor.

there is this storry of a girl who died because her mom wouldn`t want to let her do chemo therapy, because she believed she would make it without - and she didn`t. no one knows of course if she would have made it with chemo. but the point is it works in a lot of cases and even if it sounds bad - and they loose all their hairs (hairs grow back) i know some people who are really thankfull that this therapy exists.

Edited November 10, 2019 by remember

[DrewNows]

1 minute ago, remember said:

did i talk about supplementing? well if they have a doctor like him that might all be well, and working. but what you don`t understand about what i`m saying is that there are people who die also because they believe they can heal cancer only by changing their diet. what is not really clear about the other videos is how closely a trustable cancer therapy has to be accompanied by a doctor who knows exactly what he does. and believe me or not a cancer patient in the end does not care what made them live, in a lot of cases it is chemo therapy. of course returning to old food habbits is not the right way to go. what i wanted to point out is that there are some people who fell into the hands of some cult docs who told them some kind of woo woo and died because it didn`t work out so, i don`t know dr. morse, but i know something about people who fell in trapps and some who found cures.

you said tablets lol 
One thing that dr Morse likes to emphasize is it isn’t him doing the fixing or curing or healing for people, so as you said, there’s a personal responsibility at hand (always risk involved) and in today’s age you may not physically be able to see him but working through his protocol with a specialist (using iridology, diet and herbs) is going to be much higher chance for beating cancer than any chemotherapy. He’s success rate of much better from what I’ve heard 

[DrewNows]

10 minutes ago, Nickyy said:

I agree. Pointing to credentials as a way of supporting a poor argument is a logical fallacy. 

But I'm wondering why he felt the need to pay for his credentials. It doesn't make sense to me.  Something feels incongruent 

Which credentials did he buy? And where did you get this information? Let me look at his book to see what it says 

[remember]

5 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

you said tablets lol 
One thing that dr Morse likes to emphasize is it isn’t him doing the fixing or curing or healing for people, so as you said, there’s a personal responsibility at hand (always risk involved) and in today’s age you may not physically be able to see him but working through his protocol with a specialist (using iridology, diet and herbs) is going to be much higher chance for beating cancer than any chemotherapy. He’s success rate of much better from what I’ve heard 

yes their tumors went away because they ate frankinsense in a concentrated pressed form. that`s not really supplementation it`s phyto medicine.

i know of no case where anyone survived just because of a different diet - one of my great aunts infact died because she thought she could find a therapy herself.

just pointing towards the risks of this. do you have any experience with patients of his? how blindly do you believe in it?

Edited November 10, 2019 by remember

[Nickyy]

14 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

I’m defensive because people like to attack him based off his background and stuff, even though he’s working miracles and giving people answers that doctors chock up to autoimmune diseases etc. when people learn why they aren’t healthy they can finally take back their power and stop handing it over to the medical doctors and relying on pharmaceuticals 

I'm not attacking him. But I can't go against my intuition. That would mean buying into a philosophy, which is not good for my development. 

[DrewNows]

1 minute ago, remember said:

yes their tumors went away because they ate frankinsense in a concentrated pressed form. that`s not really supplementation it`s phyto medicine.

i know of no case where anyone survived just because of a different diet - one of my great aunts infact died because she thought she could find a therapy herself.

I’m not familiar with that medicine but it’s not simply a diet change, it’s a protocol of detoxification with herbs and monofasting grapes and juices etc depending on the person and their level of toxicity. All cancer patients work with him and a specialist, they give them all the necessary tools 

[remember]

8 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

I’m not familiar with that medicine but it’s not simply a diet change, it’s a protocol of detoxification with herbs and monofasting grapes and juices etc depending on the person and their level of toxicity. All cancer patients work with him and a specialist, they give them all the necessary tools 

yes that`s what i`m pointing towards - people might not get that when they watch him on youtube.

i`m not familiar with his medicine just because i watch a video on youtube. although generally speaking i could change my diet towards a more healthy plantbased one as a preventive method to minimize the possibility of uncontrolled cell growth in my body.

Edited November 10, 2019 by remember

[DrewNows]

7 minutes ago, Nickyy said:

I'm not attacking him. But I can't go against my intuition. That would mean buying into a philosophy, which is not good for my development. 

Yes I did them same searches, out of skepticism and concern lol 

heres what his book says 

also I want to note, youtube changed their search settings so it’s like impossible to find any of his videos linked to his channel so people use another site as their search engine with time stamps called rawfigs.com 

https://www.rawfigs.com/

@remember yes I think they do as it’s pretty clear if you’ve seen a lot of his cancer case videos. Literally type in a specific cancer and you can hear about a case he worked with, Good stuff 

[remember]

@DrewNows yes maybe if they search for him directly. i can only talk about the context in this specific thread. also there is a high chance of people trying to heal themselfs without a doctor. if i had cancer i would probably also search for alternatives, but i know how deep i go into this stuff if it`s my own issue and i would not try cancer therapy without a practitioner, and i also know i would probably only try either if i had some time or if i was a lost case or if i was really secure about the chances.

i`m super careful with any quacks because i`m from a family of quacks.

people sometimes forget that they are quacks themselfs but trust no other quacks because they could be the worse quack than themselfs so they better trust into themselfs forgetting that they are not really specialized quacks.

Edited November 10, 2019 by remember

[DrewNows]

This video is very short and informative regarding detoxification @remember @Nickyy

Also he has some more here if you want to keep watching more about the process 

 

[DrewNows]

7 minutes ago, remember said:

@DrewNows yes maybe if they search for him directly. i can only talk about the context in this specific thread. also there is a high chance of people trying to heal themselfs without a doctor. if i had cancer i would probably also search for alternatives, but i know how deep i go into this stuff if it`s my own issue and i would not try cancer therapy without a practitioner, and i also know i would probably only try either if i had some time or if i was a lost case or if i was really secure about the chances.

right. guidance would be key for someone at such a stage in their life as it could likely impact cognitive ability and emotional state as well. 

[DrewNows]

@Nickyy about the mucoid plaque I just heard more about it. The body forms this in the lining of the colon to protect itself from certain foods requiring longer digestion with acid ash. In this video he speaks of it happening on his juice fast  

 

[remember]

6 hours ago, DrewNows said:

right. guidance would be key for someone at such a stage in their life as it could likely impact cognitive ability and emotional state as well. 

no, if people bought into food lies or pharma (allopathic lies - while i think some allopathic meds are still usefull) all their life they don`t lack cognitive ability they just lack basic knowledge. the problem is they then are disorientated because they don`t know which one would be the right direction to even search for alternative practitioners. although for preventive medicine you don`t really need a doc, there we can do a lot for ourselfs, but the problem is the same.

Edited November 10, 2019 by remember

[DrewNows]

5 hours ago, remember said:

no, if people bought into food lies or pharma (allopathic lies - while i think some are still usefull) all their life they don`t lack cognitive ability they just lack basic knowledge. the problem is they then are disorientated because they don`t know which one would be the right direction to even search for alternative practitioners. although for preventive medicine you don`t really need a doc, there we can do a lot for ourselfs, but the problem is the same.

@rememberI mean the sickness is going to impact them on many levels, so if they know someone who is informed and in contact with those who can work with the patient then it's the way to go

in the facebook support groups, there are many run by robert morse specialists and people sharing their journey experiences and support etc. Good place to go to for reflection and questioning. here's one article linked recently to someone asking about the skeptical theory of dr robert morse regarding the blood and lymph circulatory systems. 

https://www.biostarus.com/blogs/formulators-corner/down-the-rabbit-hole-the-rise-of-western-medicine-in-the-us?fbclid=IwAR17WNLViHNzG4Ox1Xl_LuVSr21fpOpAeyl7hK2dabYKFJalzxuc1bj2zu8

Also here was one of the replies: "Look up monsato and the link with allopathic meds... u will not find any evidence of natural theory of lymphatic system in any internet or books of the current time... due to control to supress that evidence. u would need to go back in the archives within city libraries" 

[Nickyy]

On 10/11/2019 at 3:07 PM, DrewNows said:

@Nickyy about the mucoid plaque I just heard more about it. The body forms this in the lining of the colon to protect itself from certain foods requiring longer digestion with acid ash. In this video he speaks of it happening on his juice fast  

 

Mucoid plaque doesn't exist. Ask any gastroenterologist

On 10/11/2019 at 1:52 PM, DrewNows said:

Yes I did them same searches, out of skepticism and concern lol 

heres what his book says 

also I want to note, youtube changed their search settings so it’s like impossible to find any of his videos linked to his channel so people use another site as their search engine with time stamps called rawfigs.com 

https://www.rawfigs.com/

@remember yes I think they do as it’s pretty clear if you’ve seen a lot of his cancer case videos. Literally type in a specific cancer and you can hear about a case he worked with, Good stuff 

@DrewNows  

What do you think of these videos exposing Robert Morse?

I think the guy makes some very valid points and has the ability to point out where morse is just plain wrong in his understanding of cancer and how the lymphatic system doesn't even have any connection with the kidneys.

 

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[Nickyy]

John Rose - exposed 

 

 

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@Aquarius

Rotenone is an organic pesticide and insecticide that has been show to induce Parkinson's disease 

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/tx049867r

A list of substances allowed to be used in organic agriculture

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=9874504b6f1025eb0e6b67cadf9d3b40&rgn=div6&view=text&node=7:3.1.1.9.32.7&idno=7#sg7.3.205.g.sg0

A review of the nutritional claims regarding organic food

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1541-4337.2010.00108.x

Systematic review: No nutritional difference between organic and conventional food

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/92/1/203/4597310

 

 

 

 

[Nickyy]

23 minutes ago, d0ornokey said:

@Nickyy

damn thats fucked up. thought organic was safe 

Yeah, that list suddenly makes bretharianism look like an attractive opinion..(bizarrely enough!)

Edited November 14, 2019 by Nickyy

[d0ornokey]

@Nickyy yeah really gonna dive deep to find an ethical source 

[remember]

13 hours ago, Nickyy said:

Systematic review: No nutritional difference between organic and conventional food

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/92/1/203/4597310

this argument is so hollow - why should there be a nutritional difference? it`s about toxins intake all the way, toxins like round up for example - what`s not good for the bees can`t be good for other beings. bon apetit.

there could be labels organic farmers voluntarily are assign to which regulate what is allowed to be used in organic farming - if no one controls that control it yourself to gain more trust - that´s all i can say about that.