I don’t know exactly why I’m pursuing awakening.

[Leo Gura]

25 minutes ago, Philipp said:

@Leo Gura I understand that the Truth will take everything, and you will have to let go of everything, but if that is the case, then why should you pursue that which you will eventually let go of. Are girls and Businesses worth anything? Why care about things in the short game if in the long games those don't matter? 

Why do anything since eventually you'll be dead?

Reality has no point other than being.

No matter what you do, it doesn't matter other than in your imagination. A thing matters if you think it does.

You have total freedom to do whatever you want since nothing you do matters.

In practice, though, you are not in control of your desires. Your desires control you and dictate what you find meaningful. Of course your desires are totally selfish and groundless in the end. And your desires create your suffering.

If you were wise you would abandon all desire. But you're not that wise. So you're stuck being their slave

[VeganAwake]

“Do not seek illumination unless you seek it as a man whose hair is on fire seeks a pond.”

[Flowerfaeiry]

Haha I’m in the same boat. I think I’ve been putting the cart before the horse this whole time... ugh

[Inliytened1]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@7thLetter Go talk to girls and start a business.

You are putting the cart before the horse.

Truth will destroy your whole life. There will be nothing left. You will not care about girls or business by the time you find Truth and stabilize in it. Stabilizing in Truth will require surrendering all your material attachments.

This is true.  You won't have any desire to go back to this stuff afterwards.   Do this stuff now and get it all out of your system.

[pluto]

Awakening pursues you Enlightenment is Inevitable.

[Philipp]

@Leo Gura But if nothing matters how can you care so much about politics? How care about a certain Life Purupose? How can you care about Spirituality? How can you care about changing the world if it was already perfect as it is? How can you do so much work and sweat and suffer, if all is the same? 

Thank you for your answer! I am so curious because that is where I have been stuck for the past years.

Edited November 5, 2019 by Philipp
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[Inliytened1]

@Philipp it's not that nothing matters its that material desires are seen for what they are.  Shallow and false just like the ego.  You would have to go back to being unconscious to live that lifestyle again. (You can fool yourself but at the end of the day from the Absolute perspective you know what is reallly going on).  You have seen through all of reality.

 So it's not that its depressing or dark -  In fact reality becomes more beaitiful.  Just looking around your room becomes magical.  Everything is magical.    And everything is you so you take a deeper interest in "yourself" from a higher POV.

 

Edited November 5, 2019 by Inliytened1

[Eu Sint]

1 hour ago, Philipp said:

 

@Leo Gura But if nothing matters how can you care so much about politics? How care about a certain Life Purupose? How can you care about Spirituality? How can you care about changing the world if it was already perfect as it is? How can you do so much work and sweat and suffer, if all is the same? 

Thank you for your answer! I am so curious because that is where I have been stuck for the past years.

 

Of course, nothing matters, everything is just imagination. What seems real and meaningful to you is nothing but the Infinite Creative Power of Pure Consciousness to manifest itself. You ask Leo questions, Leo playing his role, I answered, a plane crashed with 150 people on board, someone raping a sister, a powerful earthquake in Italy, a war in Afghanistan, a double murder in Brazil, global warming, Brexit in England, life purpose, death, politics,enlightenment, humans,awakening, porn, happiness, thoughts, mind, planets, ego, galaxies, aliens, love, and the list goes on forever. All these are illusory. Here only You exist as Pure Consciousness. Nobody and nothing is outside you.

 

Just take a step back and detach from this endless game and be aware of your own Infinite Greatness. Just for a moment ,completely disentangled from the illusion and be what you really are ,The Absolute Presence.?❤️

[Nahm]

18 hours ago, 7thLetter said:

facing it?

That’s not an accurate perspective imo. Just be willing to cry, and maybe vomit a little. 

destroying the ego or stripping away 

That’s a misconception to. Source frees you of things. There’s no ‘you destroying’. Think birth, rather than death.

little to no desire for material things

This is a misconstrued perspective. Effortlessness is not a lack of anything. 

 

It’s great and all, unconditional happiness, destroy fear and other limitations, but I’ve got my life ahead of me and it feels like I’m throwing it all away at a young age. I don’t even hang out with anyone anymore and do things I used to because of how deep I took this.

That’s conditioning, perspective, not Truth. Let perspectives, thoughts, that don’t feel good to you - go. They’re not true, and that is why they don’t feel good. Thoughts are appearance of things, relative to the actuality of your awesomeness. 

Another reason for this thread, my membership trial is ending very soon at the yoga studio, and to continue would be $100/month. To continue or not to? I don’t know.

That seem pricey. Is it in Trump Towers? I bet the owner / instructor has a good idea / solution for you, I’d ask. 

But the main drive for me to continue is that maybe I could meet a girl there? 

God works in highly mysterious ways. Go, meet a girl there. 

Essentially, be very careful creating any conditions on realizing your true awesomeness. You’ll only have to surrender them later. No one is stopping you from everything you want, the way you want it. You are a creator. Give no one authority of that realm. 

[BlessedLion]

the way i see it, life is short, why not go all in and make it as intense as possible? An easy life is boring af. I do this consciousness work and it has made starting a biz and fucking girls even more exciting and valuable. Do it your way, it doens't have to be one for the other. You're young theres a ton of fun ways to integrate consciousness while still exploring your 20s like your peers, then when you turn 35 and life sucks for all your friends, you'll have a net of consciousness to fall onto

[Tanz]

3 hours ago, Philipp said:

@Leo Gura But if nothing matters how can you care so much about politics? How care about a certain Life Purupose? How can you care about Spirituality? How can you care about changing the world if it was already perfect as it is? How can you do so much work and sweat and suffer, if all is the same? 

Thank you for your answer! I am so curious because that is where I have been stuck for the past years.

My own answer is, its a lot more enjoyable creating possibilities for myself and others. Elevating yourself and others around you creates more interesting things.    

[zeroISinfinity]

If I can be,do and h...., anything I want. I do not want any of these. 

Can I be Source only without Awareness would really like that. Like no more dreams? 

This is my ultimate desire. 

Can't end ISness but can be Dimensionless. 

Edited November 5, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[tedens]

9 hours ago, Philipp said:

@Leo Gura But if nothing matters how can you care so much about politics? How care about a certain Life Purupose? How can you care about Spirituality? How can you care about changing the world if it was already perfect as it is? How can you do so much work and sweat and suffer, if all is the same? 

Thank you for your answer! I am so curious because that is where I have been stuck for the past years.

Note that the desire for something is something you imagine. You don't know what it is but you want to experience it. Now, what does experience allow? 

[7thLetter]

@Nahm I feel that Leo has already answered this whole entire thread with his simple and straightforward answer. My questions and concerns are usually based on what he talks about in his videos and he basically confirmed my ideas on this topic.

On 11/5/2019 at 7:50 AM, Nahm said:

That seem pricey. Is it in Trump Towers? I bet the owner / instructor has a good idea / solution for you, I’d ask. 

But the main drive for me to continue is that maybe I could meet a girl there? 

God works in highly mysterious ways. Go, meet a girl there.

It honestly is quite pricey, definitely way more than a monthly gym membership. And no not in the trump towers lol. I just sent them an email asking for a potential discount and still waiting for a response. And since its so difficult for me to decide whether or not I want to continue my practice, the yoga studio’s response to my email will determine my decision. So basically the universe will decide if I should meet a girl there, and decide if I should continue my spiritual practice

 

[Nahm]

@7thLetter Noted. Thanks! 

[Leo Gura]

On 11/5/2019 at 5:10 AM, Philipp said:

@Leo Gura But if nothing matters how can you care so much about politics? How care about a certain Life Purupose? How can you care about Spirituality? How can you care about changing the world if it was already perfect as it is? How can you do so much work and sweat and suffer, if all is the same? 

Thank you for your answer! I am so curious because that is where I have been stuck for the past years.

It's a sort of play.

When you go to the movies, how come you care so much about what the characters are doing? You're there for fun. You know it's not real but you got nothing better to do.

Yes, meaninglessness is a big paradox. It is difficult for the ego-mind, which has been addicted to constructing illusory meanings all its life, to suddenly operate without meaning. There is a difficult transition phase here which can last months or years, where the ego-mind will feel lost and directionless. But then you stabilize in emptiness and play.

The point of life is PLAY! It's just like a video game. The mistake is that you take it too seriously because you are terrified of death and suffering. Imagine how bad video games would be if the main character was terrified of death?

Well... that's you! Ta-da!

Consider that life having zero meaning is the ideal situation. It gives you total freedom to play. It's an infinite sand box game this way. Otherwise you'd be a slave to some limited set of pre-baked meanings. This would make life boring and lame.

YOU. ARE. GOD! Invent whatever the fuck you want. It's all your whim.

[zeroISinfinity]

On 5.11.2019. at 8:52 AM, pluto said:

Awakening pursues you Enlightenment is Inevitable.

Noooooooooooo. 

♥️

You are infinite potential. Take inspired action. 

Create good loving story. 

 

Edited November 7, 2019 by zeroISinfinity