nothing happens by chance - ⚫️⚪️

[ActualizedDavid]

From the absolute view witch is always there is no free will. So i curious about something.

Does this mean that what happens in this life is in a way predetermined. 

I mean if someone steel's something from me this is what should be. Because that's the reality?

Do we have any power over manifestation ? Me, the me who is an illusion.

For example in the last years "i changed" i'm no longer depressed, it feels like "I" made the changes and fight my demons.

 

The ideea that i'm trying to bring here is if this life, dream, illusion etc. Is something that the best way to get it is to let it be. Because you have no power, individual power? Let go and let god ? True Power is no power. 

Or we have little power, i mean some power as an individual. Not that it seems that we have power as individuals. And we can make or brake this life ?

?

[Nahm]

I saw a movie the other day where a guy did the same. Cured himself of depression. It was awesome. Then I turned of the tv.   

[Schahin]

15 minutes ago, Nahm said:

I saw a movie the other day where a guy did the same. Cured himself of depression. It was awesome. Then I turned of the tv.   

Explain better hehe you are trying to transmit something very valuable

[Forestluv]

3 hours ago, ActualizedDavid said:

From the absolute view witch is always there is no free will. So i curious about something.

Is this something you were told? Or is this something revealed in your direct experience?

Imagine spending 40 years of life assuming something was true and then one day suddenly realizing it wasn't true. 

[Nahm]

@Schahin That was pretty much the whole story. Then I just went and did what I wanted to do. 

[JustThinkingAloud]

@ActualizedDavid

The way I see it is that everything is predetermined through cause and effect. To create a new cause you have to change something now and you will get a different effect. If you keep doing what you have always been doing, you will keep getting what you have always been getting.

I strongly believe that all our actions start with our thoughts (and eventually become habits) so to change your “cause” and therefore "effect" you need to change the way you think and that will change the way you act and that will change what you get back.

[ActualizedDavid]

35 minutes ago, Nahm said:

I saw a movie the other day where a guy did the same. Cured himself of depression. It was awesome. Then I turned of the tv.   

If you found out that in the tv wall socket there is a bug that is short-circuiting the Tv and is turning it back on and off , on an off , so that the tv can show a movie.

What should you do?

[JustThinkingAloud]

5 minutes ago, Meta-Man said:

The body-mind organism has no free will and is a like computer reacting to events. You do not choose your thoughts, nor the impulse of acting on them. All your suffering is due to your insistence on believing to be a limited separate entity (the body, the self-contraction, the self-narrative). As The Absolute Formlessness that you really are you are completely free. In fact you are freedom. As the absolute that you really are, you are nothing and everything. Being nothing and everything there are can be no mistakes. You wouldn’t have it otherwise because you are the ultimate dreamer of the dream of life. You are the dreamer and the dreamed. Nothing happens by chance. Just like dominoes falling so the dream of life unfolds with seeming cause and effect. Seemingly - because cause and effect cannot be separated. All is one. You are the One.

Thank you for sharing your truth.

[ActualizedDavid]

22 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

Is this something you were told? Or is this something revealed in your direct experience?

Imagine spending 40 years of life assuming something was true and then one day suddenly realizing it wasn't true. 

From my direct experience i see that sometimes i can let the body and the mind do they're thing and just act without and prior thought.

And everything goes as it should be.

13 minutes ago, JustThinkingAloud said:

@ActualizedDavid

The way I see it is that everything is predetermined through cause and effect. To create a new cause you have to change something now and you will get a different effect. If you keep doing what you have always been doing, you will keep getting what you have always been getting.

I strongly believe that all our actions start with our thoughts (and eventually become habits) so to change your “cause” and therefore "effect" you need to change the way you think and that will change the way you act and that will change what you get back.

And from your understanding is there free will or not ?

Free individual will?

The thing that changes the thoughts , has free will?

12 minutes ago, Meta-Man said:

The body-mind organism has no free will and is a like computer reacting to events. You do not choose your thoughts, nor the impulse of acting on them. All your suffering is due to your insistence on believing to be a limited separate entity (the body, the self-contraction, the self-narrative). As The Absolute Formlessness that you really are you are completely free. In fact you are freedom. As the absolute that you really are, you are nothing and everything. Being nothing and everything there are can be no mistakes. You wouldn’t have it otherwise because you are the ultimate dreamer of the dream of life. You are the dreamer and the dreamed. Nothing happens by chance. Just like dominoes falling so the dream of life unfolds with seeming cause and effect. Seemingly - because cause and effect cannot be separated. All is one. You are the One.

The is what i mean, you explain it like Ramana Mah. is explaining.

 

So in the end the answer to this question is?

Who is asking the question ? ?

[JustThinkingAloud]

1 minute ago, ActualizedDavid said:

And from your understanding is there free will or not ?

Absolutely, you are free to think, imagine and believe whatever you wish, isn't that great? I find it quite fun to play with my imagination. Free entertainment! haha

[Forestluv]

50 minutes ago, ActualizedDavid said:

From my direct experience i see that sometimes i can let the body and the mind do they're thing and just act without any prior thought.

And everything goes as it should be.

Ok. You are saying you have direct experience in which the body and mind are doing their thing and just act without prior thought. To me, you just answered your own question. 

[Nahm]

Nothing can withstand an hour of meditation every morning.

Your deconstruction work, collapsing dualities, taking a look within, dream boarding life, etc, is well under way. I’d make it a point to say, believe, and know, that I am awesome, that everything good in me is God, self loving and worthy of giving & receiving love. I’d watch Leo’s video on not giving a fuck what people think, and I’d have some kind of burial / burning ceremony. Maybe write down all concerns about what people think of you, wish them well, vow to do your absolute best never to judge yourself or anyone else, burn it, and bury it. (Literally)

Checkpoints of meditation would be actual awareness, and no mind. I’d be checking for refining technique along the way. Carry it into the day, longer and longer. Develop the ability to entirely drop the mind / thinking anytime, into no mind state. Conscious stomach breathing 24/7.

I’d take a 1g dose of shrooms and contemplate this isness, that is right here right now, but effortlessly, not pushy-thinking / ‘figuring out’. Allow / receive the realizations. Ask God to wash over you with divine love and understanding, out loud, sternly but not demandingly. Set the intention with every cell in your body. Feel the realness of the desire for realization, not Just the thought about it.  Be open for anything, calm, collected, upbeat, humble & interested. I’d listen to a lot of Abraham Hicks, every morning, right after meditation, any video of hers, everyday, and anytime you’re driving / waiting. Order a micro bluetooth ear bud. Imo, her videos are the cleanest, purest psychology you will find. 

I would then add, but only if you’re naturally genuinely interested, some quantum mechanics videos on YouTube. I’d start by searching relativity vs special relativity, then the double slit, entanglement, black holes & superposition. As you watch them, always, constantly pause it and look in front of you and contemplate - this video is talking about this isness right here right now.

Then I’d take a 2 g dose of mushrooms and contemplate what is in front of me, what is this isness? Then I’d watch every video by John Hagelin / most are him speaking at SAND.  Then I’d take another 2g trip. Then I’d watch Leo’s videos, absolute infinity, the point of life, stages of life, then self deception (sorry), fear, duality, reality, truth. Then I’d take another 2g trip, (not having skipped any days of meditation for a few months now) and then watch ego backlash, oneness, and the ten ox pics. Then I’d go see some presenters like Ester Hicks, Eckart, and Rupert in person, and I’d ask questions, and ‘get in the hot seat’.

Then I’d take 4g’s, and again two month’s later. Then I’d watch and contemplate, based on filling in gaps, based on questions I still have about self & reality. 

Then I’d take a 5g trip, only when comfortable with the idea of doing so. 

I’d take all the trips alone, in nature. But not in any overly minimalist survival (tent & campfire) setting. And not where I live (too familiar).  

Small shroom dose is 1g. Larger is 2g. Never, ever ever ever take 3g’s. A high dose is 4g’s (You’ll lose identity). A hero’s dose is 5gs (you’ll lose reality). Trips should be at least two months apart. (You won’t actually lose anything). 

All of this is obviously biased, but that’s what I’d do. 

[JustThinkingAloud]

11 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Nothing can withstand an hour of meditation every morning.

Your deconstruction work, collapsing dualities, taking a look within, dream boarding life, etc, is well under way. I’d make it a point to say, believe, and know, that I am awesome, that everything good in me is God, self loving and worthy of giving & receiving love. I’d watch Leo’s video on not giving a fuck what people think, and I’d have some kind of burial / burning ceremony. Maybe write down all concerns about what people think of you, wish them well, vow to do your absolute best never to judge yourself or anyone else, burn it, and bury it. (Literally)

Checkpoints of meditation would be actual awareness, and no mind. I’d be checking for refining technique along the way. Carry it into the day, longer and longer. Develop the ability to entirely drop the mind / thinking anytime, into no mind state. Conscious stomach breathing 24/7.

I’d take a 1g dose of shrooms and contemplate this isness, that is right here right now, but effortlessly, not pushy-thinking / ‘figuring out’. Allow / receive the realizations. Ask God to wash over you with divine love and understanding, out loud, sternly but not demandingly. Set the intention with every cell in your body. Feel the realness of the desire for realization, not Just the thought about it.  Be open for anything, calm, collected, upbeat, humble & interested. I’d listen to a lot of Abraham Hicks, every morning, right after meditation, any video of hers, everyday, and anytime you’re driving / waiting. Order a micro bluetooth ear bud. Imo, her videos are the cleanest, purest psychology you will find. 

I would then add, but only if you’re naturally genuinely interested, some quantum mechanics videos on YouTube. I’d start by searching relativity vs special relativity, then the double slit, entanglement, black holes & superposition. As you watch them, always, constantly pause it and look in front of you and contemplate - this video is talking about this isness right here right now.

Then I’d take a 2 g dose of mushrooms and contemplate what is in front of me, what is this isness? Then I’d watch every video by John Hagelin / most are him speaking at SAND.  Then I’d take another 2g trip. Then I’d watch Leo’s videos, absolute infinity, the point of life, stages of life, then self deception (sorry), fear, duality, reality, truth. Then I’d take another 2g trip, (not having skipped any days of meditation for a few months now) and then watch ego backlash, oneness, and the ten ox pics. Then I’d go see some presenters like Ester Hicks, Eckart, and Rupert in person, and I’d ask questions, and ‘get in the hot seat’.

Then I’d take 4g’s, and again two month’s later. Then I’d watch and contemplate, based on filling in gaps, based on questions I still have about self & reality. 

Then I’d take a 5g trip, only when comfortable with the idea of doing so. 

I’d take all the trips alone, in nature. But not in any overly minimalist survival (tent & campfire) setting. And not where I live (too familiar).  

Small shroom dose is 1g. Larger is 2g. Never, ever ever ever take 3g’s. A high dose is 4g’s (You’ll lose identity). A hero’s dose is 5gs (you’ll lose reality). Trips should be at least two months apart. (You won’t actually lose anything). 

All of this is obviously biased, but that’s what I’d do. 

Very interesting, thank you for sharing 

[Forestluv]

@Nahm Nice guide . 

[Nahm]

[allislove]

@Nahm no 5-meo? c'mon? 

just kidding, great guide!  

[Nahm]

@dimitri Well of course. That was part 1 / 100. 

[allislove]

11 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@dimitri Well of course. That was part 1 / 100. 

Typo, 1 / Infinity 

[JustThinkingAloud]

3 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

You could lose your mind any second.

You could get a heart attack and die any second.

A meteorite could crash down and kill you and hundreds more any second.

All kind of smaller shit happens all the time without your control.

Etc.

"There is no will but God's."  - A course in miracles

Inshallah.

Wow, you did pick the worst out of it. Now it's time to find the good things!

[JustThinkingAloud]

2 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

Finding the good things are also thanks to God. Only because of Him.

And not finding them is also thanks to Him.

Maybe it's time to pray for different things.