On Moses & an interesting verse from the Quran

[Angelite]

Can someone shine a light on this? Unbias interpretation. To those whom have died. 

Sūrah [6] The Cattle

122. Can he who was dead, to whom We gave life, and a light whereby he can walk amongst men, be like him who is in the depths of darkness, from which he can never come out? Thus to those without Faith their own deeds seem pleasing. 

123. Thus We have placed leaders in every town, it's wicked men, to plot (and burrow) therein: but they only plot against their own souls, and they perceive it not. 

[Angelite]

I have yet to understand verse 122. 

"Can he who was dead, to whom We gave life, and a light whereby he can walk amongst men...

be like him who is in the depths of darkness, from which he can never come out?..."

is this a people of guidance?

Or that which had been made pleasing their deeds when in reality it is a people of misguidance? 

Or are they like Moses? The followers of Moses?

Moses have "died" (re:lost consciousness) and had a glimpse of God's "reflection" which still isn't God but somehow something which kinda reflects "God" but not directly. Moses can only "speak" to God. 

The manifestations of followers of Mūsa are the Buddist and the Hindus today. 

Actually not Moses but Samiri. It was during the time of Moses. 

Edited October 30, 2019 by Angelite

[JustThinkingAloud]

It's more important to understand God not what others said about God. God is in you and it's in everyone and everywhere, try to go directly to God. I hope this helps

PS: Sorry, I don't understand those verses.

[Angelite]

@JustThinkingAloud Actually I had found my answer pretty quickly.

[Nahm]

16 hours ago, Angelite said:

Can someone shine a light on this? Unbias interpretation. To those whom have died. 

Sūrah [6] The Cattle

122. Can he who was dead, to whom We gave life, and a light whereby he can walk amongst men, be like him who is in the depths of darkness, from which he can never come out? Thus to those without Faith their own deeds seem pleasing. 

“Could a living human actually be God, and never actually “became” a human?”  If there are not “two”, one believing there is “two” does not know true happiness, as one does not know who one is, but knows only the physical pleasures, and surface level pleasures of mind, mistaking this for actual love.”

123. Thus We have placed leaders in every town, it's wicked men, to plot (and burrow) therein: but they only plot against their own souls, and they perceive it not. 

“It is because we are ignorant of this, that we allow ourselves to be lead by the selfish & wicked. In truth, the wicked cause their own suffering, and do not realize they do so. To plot against (take advantage of) others, is only truly to plot against one’s self. The longer this goes on, the worse it gets for everyone (burrowing nature of this).”

 

[zeroISinfinity]

Well @Nahm perfectly explain ed.

It's All you, oh God damn it. 

Other then that Thank God for saving me from harem of hippie chicks that would be a living Hell. Imagine 6 of them with PMS at same time and dealing with this. Who said there is no Hell is Just wrong. 

Did we played Just to be pawns in Game. How blind can you be don't you see Gambler lost only What he didn't had. 

Great song so Truthful. 

 

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity Meh. I just remember writing it.

[zeroISinfinity]

@Nahm I really Wish they All return to God. It awesome beyond every description possible. ❤️?

Sensational World of God/LOVE OMFG like the entire time. How good is when you lose ego Just OMFG. OMFG can't even describe the goodies.

Edited October 31, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[Angelite]

This is actually a free Haramain translation. It can't be sold. 

Just like Moses. Moses didn't know God initially. God made Himself known to him at the blessed land. ❤

[zeroISinfinity]

5 hours ago, Angelite said:

 

 God made Himself known to him at the blessed land. ❤

Yes exactly ❤️ that's you. ❤️Lots of these ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ dunno Maybe no thing Will finally Remember. Or won't depends on the reader. 

 

[Angelite]

On 10/31/2019 at 8:22 PM, Nahm said:

122. Can he who was dead, to whom We gave life, and a light whereby he can walk amongst men, be like him who is in the depths of darkness, from which he can never come out? Thus to those without Faith their own deeds seem pleasing. 

“Could a living human actually be God, and never actually “became” a human?”  If there are not “two”, one believing there is “two” does not know true happiness, as one does not know who one is, but knows only the physical pleasures, and surface level pleasures of mind, mistaking this for actual love.”

123. Thus We have placed leaders in every town, it's wicked men, to plot (and burrow) therein: but they only plot against their own souls, and they perceive it not. 

“It is because we are ignorant of this, that we allow ourselves to be lead by the selfish & wicked. In truth, the wicked cause their own suffering, and do not realize they do so. To plot against (take advantage of) others, is only truly to plot against one’s self. The longer this goes on, the worse it gets for everyone (burrowing nature of this).”

 

EDIT : What is your definition of we ?

(In my religion, it is referring to the angels.)

If there are not “two”, one believing there is “two” does not know true happiness.

If there are "one", one believing there is "two" does not know true happiness. 

But your definition of "one" is equal to ;

Everything = God.  

In my reality, there is one God higher than me(re:everything).

So..

as one does not know who one is, but knows only the physical pleasures, and surface level pleasures of mind, mistaking this for actual love.

I do know my Creator though..I didn't know how He looks like but I do know that God exist. And It is not anything like creations..definitely not a human being.

 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Angelite

[JustThinkingAloud]

27 minutes ago, Angelite said:

I do know my Creator though..I didn't know how He looks like but I do know that God exist. And It is not anything like creations..definitely not a human being.

 

So how come that human beings can create. We create life, babies are born every single day, that is "creating".

As long as you think that you know God, you'll keep getting confused. Only God knows Himself, we don't know everything that God knows. We aren't God but God is in us because His powers are unlimited and everywhere. I'm not saying that I know everything but I think that someone saying that they know everything about God is a bit ignorant. (sorry)

[Angelite]

1 hour ago, JustThinkingAloud said:

So how come that human beings can create. We create life, babies are born every single day, that is "creating".

As long as you think that you know God, you'll keep getting confused. Only God knows Himself, we don't know everything that God knows. We aren't God but God is in us because His powers are unlimited and everywhere. I'm not saying that I know everything but I think that someone saying that they know everything about God is a bit ignorant. (sorry)

I only say that I know a God higher than me exist. I know Him through His Book(s). 

And I know He exist because He answered my prayers. Actually not only my prayers but other people's prayers too. Anyone who asked Him. That's how I know Allah exist. I said I didn't know how He looks like. 

(In my religion) It is actually a sin to imagine how God looks like. Because God is not anything like creations. 

Re: me = creation(s) = (everything) < God

?this is not a belief or a concept. It is true in my reality. 200%

...

Actually your question is quite fun. Do you think your mom created you?

It is by God's mercy that we are able to create(?). For human beings can only manipulate resources. 

But can never create something out of nothing. 

Only God can create something out of nothing. 

 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Angelite

[JustThinkingAloud]

7 minutes ago, Angelite said:

I only say that I know a God higher than me exist. I know Him through His Book(s). 

God is not a human being therefore He doesn't write books. These books are written by human beings explaining their interpretations of God. 

10 minutes ago, Angelite said:

And I know He exist because He answered my prayers. Actually not only my prayers but other people's prayers too. Anyone who asked Him. That's how I know Allah exist. I said I didn't know how He looks like. 

16 minutes ago, Angelite said:

Re: me = creation(s) = (everything) < God

God is everywhere. He has no limits! And that's why a single human being can't fully comprehend what God is.

[Angelite]

1 minute ago, JustThinkingAloud said:

God is not a human being therefore He doesn't write books. These books are written by human beings explaining their interpretations of God. 

 

It is His Words that has manifested into our reality through, Angel Gabriel, to prophet Muhammad, to the prophet's friends ( one of his friend are assigned to write the revelation, everyone else was not allowed to write it but to remember it in their heart, instant integration) .

The same thing happened to the previous prophets.

Did I keep the first written Quran by Zayd ibn Thabit ? No, I got a haramain english translation version. And in other language too. But there are many people who memorize it in their hearts, including my bro. It's not a big book. Even young (arab)kids can memorize it. 

 

[JustThinkingAloud]

25 minutes ago, Angelite said:

?this is not a belief or a concept. It is true in my reality. 200%

Notice how you used your personal opinion in it. It's not all about you and your world, it's about everything and everyone, for something to be 100% true, it has to true for everyone and everything. Otherwise it's just your personal perspective. Also notice how you exaggerated, 200% true?

Try to have a look at things from everyone's perspective, not just from your own point of view.

29 minutes ago, Angelite said:

It is by God's mercy that we are able to create(?). For human beings can only manipulate resources. 

Yes, God gave us some His powers to create life but we don't have all His powers. That's why only part of God is in us.

31 minutes ago, Angelite said:

But can never create something out of nothing. 

Only God can create something out of nothing. 

 

I don't know, only God knows.

AND PLEASE STOP EDITING YOUR POSTS, IT'S DECEIVING! PUT MORE EFFORT INTO YOUR WRITING AND DO IT ONCE!

[JustThinkingAloud]

2 minutes ago, Angelite said:

It is His Words that has manifested into our reality through, Angel Gabriel, to prophet Muhammad, to the prophet's friends ( one of his friend are assigned to write the revelation, everyone else was not allowed to write it but to remember it in their heart, instant integration) .

The same thing happened to the previous prophets.

Did I keep the first written Quran by Zayd ibn Thabit ? No, I got a haramain english translation version. And in other language too. But there are many people who memorize it in their hearts, including my bro. It's not a big book. Even young (arab)kids can memorize it. 

 

They are still human beings, very talented and smart but they are still not God and don't know everything that God knows. Only God knows everything.

[Nahm]

3 hours ago, Angelite said:

I do know my Creator though..I didn't know how He looks like but I do know that God exist. And It is not anything like creations..definitely not a human being.

I hope I didn’t offend you. I apologize if I did. I was just giving my two cents on the passage. I did not intend that it applied to your beliefs at all. If you think I’m wrong, or off, no problem. It is just an interpretation. It can mean to you really whatever you want. 

 

[Angelite]

Let me tell you what he got to say.

Prophet Muhammad : 

46:9 Quran

Say (O Muhammad), "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."

Yusuf Ali translation:

Say: "I am not a bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but a Warner open and clear."

 

(It means he didn't bring something new which is against the previous scriptures, but the same message from God of all creations)

 

46:10

Say (O Muhammad), "Have you considered: if the Qur'an was from Allah, and you disbelieved in it while a witness from the Children of Israel has testified to something similar and believed while you were arrogant... ?" Indeed, Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.

...

So, did you see how every verses are not by Muhammad himself? Even his answers are from Allah. It wasn't his "words". 

He simply says what was given to him. His answers are from Allah. Prophet Muhammad simply conveys the Words. 

Eg. Say O Muhammad... etc

While the hadeeth are from his own words. That's the difference between the Qurān & hadeeth. 

 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Angelite

[Angelite]

1 hour ago, JustThinkingAloud said:

Notice how you used your personal opinion in it. It's not all about you and your world, it's about everything and everyone, for something to be 100% true, it has to true for everyone and everything. Otherwise it's just your personal perspective. Also notice how you exaggerated, 200% true?

200% is synonymous with a full circle. My Truth just happened to be the Absolute Truth. You can try to prove me wrong , you won't be able to. It is true for everyone. But it might be that not everyone are cognizant of this truth (yet). But will. 

It can only be magnified, but never swayed to the opposite direction. 

Try to have a look at things from everyone's perspective, not just from your own point of view.

 

Yes, God gave us some His powers to create life but we don't have all His powers. That's why only part of God is in us.

Read Quran sūra27 verse59 till the rest of it. Basically everything you've talk about , creating & creations in a nutshell. That's how I viewed it. 

I don't know, only God knows.

AND PLEASE STOP EDITING YOUR POSTS, IT'S DECEIVING! PUT MORE EFFORT INTO YOUR WRITING AND DO IT ONCE!

 

41 minutes ago, Nahm said:

I hope I didn’t offend you. I apologize if I did. I was just giving my two cents on the passage. I did not intend that it applied to your beliefs at all. If you think I’m wrong, or off, no problem. It is just an interpretation. It can mean to you really whatever you want. 

What's offending about your words?

I only wanna know objective truth. The correct interpretation. Not a relative ones. 

Interpretations are two steps below the absolute. & translations are one step below the absolute.

 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Angelite